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Baccarat Thoughts on Testings

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Aug 29, 2019.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I was gonna make this post a while back but took the girlfriend to Greece for a little holiday so I'm back and feelin refresh. Some cats think testin too much is excessive but I disagree. Testing is important to figure out how much yer gonna win per shoe average but equally important testings show how frequent and how deep the drawdowns are gonna be. For instance I recently been testing an anti-streaks play and so far it look to offer about 3 unit nets per shoe. And the style produce regular drawdown of 500-600 units through about 3000 tested shoe. And about the 3500 shoe testings mark I got clipped for a black swan event that would have clipped the style for a downdraw of 849 unit, significantly worse than the previous worst case of 500-600 unit. Now, my rule of thumbs is that I want enough bankroll so that no worse case scenario clips me for more than 50% of my life time roll. So, for this tyle I would have figured that 1300 units was sufficient but after the clipping for 849 unit I would now only buck up against this style with 1800 units. Ya gotta find out this information so you can pony up sufficient bankroll to give the psychological cushion to give the balls to bulldog yer way through the rough stretches as anti-streak play is especially volatile.

    Also, bein the curious cat I am I been thinking about my anti-streak testings in light oif my recent testing of bet bankers only style. I went back and eye ball some result to see what would have happened had I only ran anti-streak against players streaks only and letting bankers streak skate. I also wanted to se how betting against bankers streaks would compare to betting against players streaks in isolation. The results I got were downrights shocking and if cats are interested in the gritty-nitty of it I can pony up my finding, hey hey.
     
  2. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    When you say Anti-Streak, what streak length you talking about, after 1, or some other figure?
     
  3. soxfan

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    My style will only get you clipped when streak of five pop, hey hey.
     
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    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    What you're doing is not really Anti-Streak, it is O.L.D.

    Anti-Steak = wait for a predetermined streak length to form, then bet against it's continuance.
    eg when I played "AS" a decade ago, I waited for a streak of 4, and bet a maximum threes times against it's continuance.
     
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  5. soxfan

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    I guess it's semantic but I figure ya gotta make yer butter and bread on the 1, 2, 3, and 4 streak, hey hey.
     
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    Always interested in your tests, What type of $ management would feed the bulldog against Player 1,2,3,4 ?.
    cheers bob
     
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    Hey Soxfan, I am very interested in your testing and would you please pony up the nitty-gritty of your findings.

    Would also like to thank you for all the years that you been posting on various gambling forums. Always have enjoyed reading post by you, Egalite and gr8player, just to name a few, in years past. Keep up the good work.
     
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  8. soxfan

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    Ok to get to the gritty nitty I went back and eyeball a bad stretch for anti-streak style betting against both b and p streak. Bucking up against one bad streak of 155 shoe betting against p and b streak would have clipped ya for -599 unit. But had I lay off the b streak and only bet against players streaks then I would have captured 323 unit gross profits over that same stretch of 155 shoe. Also, I wanted to see how betting against b streak would fare in isolation compare to betting against player so I buck up against one random 202 shoe sample from my recent test of bet bankers only and the result frankly shocking for me. Bucking up against those 202 betting against players streaks only would have captured 208 units gross with the worst downdraw bein -234 unit. But had I only bet against bankers streaks buckin up against those same 2020 shoe I would have got clipped for -619 unit and since the style got ahead briefly the worst downdraw would have been -713 units. So cats there you have it the evidence is in an as far as I concern it's a shut and shut dunked slam case. Contrary to the contention of the john-o and other who say that the difference between betting b vs p is superflous or insignificant and it ain't the difference is YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggge! And as far as I'm concern ain't no shrewd cat should EVER again make a wager on the players side of the layout cuz it's just a really lousy propsition. And that is pretty much all that I gotta say about that, hey hey.
     
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    Thanks I'm gald that you found value in some of my posting over the year, hey hey.
     
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    Also been eyeballing this bet against players only streaks style buckin up against the zumma 1000 shoe big baccarats testings book and so far through 928 shoe it is +1411 gross profits to the good. Also the worst downdraw I encounter in the zumm result was -524 unit and that significantly worse than the -315 units downdraw that I encounter previous. Also, in other testings this style buckin up against zumma result is far less profitable that it showed buckin up against other result. So, I imagine that the zumm result are more streaky than usual, hey hey.
     
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    Ok, I just finish testing the bet against players only style and buckin up against the zumma 1000 shoe it give a gross profits of 1452 unit. I did total testings of this bet gainst players only against a total 3277 shoe and end result is +8562 units gross profits. I eyeball a stretch of shoe to get an average and it look like ya lose 40=44 percents of yer gross to vig. So, still plenty of meat on the bone and cake to be made for the shrewd cat usin a sufficient base units bet that sufficient. It ain't rocket science, baby, hey hey!
     
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    Thanks sox for this test, are the results using the 11step star style double win ?.
     
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    Hi Soxfan,

    Nice to see your test results against Player. Do you bet against every Player or bet after so many Players in a row. Also, what sort of MM are you using in your testing.

    Thanks
     
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    I ain't wanna give too much specifics detail but I'll say that I make cake on 1 2 3 4 players streaks and get clipped by the 5 streaks. I don't use the star modify style but I come to conclude that you must use a progression with some heft too overcome the vig ya gotta pay on bets winning on bankers side, hey hey.
     
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    Player streaks of 5 or more consecutive hands occurred in 55% of the 200 shoes that I randomly picked from Zumma.

    You would have been ‘clipped’ in 55% of those shoes.

    Some shoes had more than one occurrence. There were 161 Player streaks of 5 or more consecutive hands within those 200 shoes.

    You would have been ‘clipped’ 161 times in those 200 shoes.
     
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    How can this be? Maybe the bet selection cc has some clues.
     
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    A shoe with a single streak of 5 or more ain't too bad as it will only cause you a loss of a coupla units. Winning shoe give you on average a profit of about 25 unit so the ratio work, hey hey.
     
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  18. soxfan

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    Wrong again you pathetic little beta bitch, there is no longer anything of value on yer dead forum, hey hey.
     
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    ^^^^ You know I am sure the Fenway Bruh Park has added a few first aid stations since 1912 for the baseball nuts that get smacked by the line drive foul ball because they was too busy testing a kabillion baccarat shoes subjectively to keep their eye on the ball.

    Next time you go maybe you should ask the tour master. Tell the tour master bruh that you went to Harvard (for the Harvard visitor's tour) and were in NASA (for the NASA visitor's tour) and that you are very busy doing the subjective tests. Tell them you only take a break to get mad as hell when a conversation about the Gerard starts because for some reason you get mad as hell that Alphonse Relax likes them there Gerard and his colleague LACSD Sheriff tough guy types.
     
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  20. soxfan

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    You have never posted anything of value and you never will so go crawl back under yer rock, and stay there, hey hey.
     
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