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Blackjack blackjack counters!

Discussion in 'Blackjack Forum' started by Rustyshackleford, Dec 8, 2019.

  1. Rustyshackleford

    Rustyshackleford Active Member

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    so i been wondering suppose i hit up gaming houses in atlantic city and win 3 grand and in 3 weeks and suppose i get shuffled up on each gaming house since im flyered? my question is how did Kewljason escape the law of the pit boss? he won 10k each year in and year out for several years. this was in early 2000 where they track your every move so i wonder how did he get away with this counting method not 3 weeks but let alone several years? did he know the pit boss? casino dont care if your max bet under 100$? dont say wonging because that is worthless trying to make a living at this game with his starting bankroll
     
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  2. Rustyshackleford

    Rustyshackleford Active Member

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    i can't get a real answer, is this something im gonna have to go find out on my own? =/
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Baccarat is a better game .
     
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  4. jbs

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    The fuck it is!

    Unless you're doing what Phil Ivey did, baccarat is a losers game and a huge waste of time!
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    jibs,



    Both , BJ and Baccarat are shitty games but Baccarat is still the better of the two .
     
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  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Who in hell is Phil Ivey ? A bartender in Brooklyn ?
     
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  7. Rustyshackleford

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    well i just lost 2500$ at blackjack tables 100$max bet 10$ min bet and everywhere i go they shuffle up on me!
    kewljasson is a fucking fictional chararcter hes fan-ta-see

    there i said it
     

  8. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    casinos are there for playing but not for winning .
     
  9. Marry John

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    "I've been tracking it for weeks, weeks I've been tracking, Knew there was a casino around here. "
     
  10. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    I debated for several days whether I wanted to respond. The fact that you bring these accusations here and not on one of the two forums, including a blackjack forum that I participate on regularly tells me, you must be unable (banned from those forums) meaning you are just someone trolling me throughout the internet. But I am going to take the high road and respond to comments as respectfully as I can.

    I played Atlantic City 2004 through 2009. 5 and a half years. At the beginning I was a red chip player, spreading $5-$40 and by the end a green/light black player, spreading $25-$250 or so. The first couple years as a red chip player I had zero problems. At that time, red chip play was very tolerated. Borgata was the new casino (opened in 2003) and had so much bigger action, green, black and above, they couldn't care less. The boardwalk casinos were also tolerant of red chip play, even if it was fairly obvious you were spreading.

    By the beginning of my 4th year, I was moving up in stakes. Still red, but red to green, spread first $10, then $15 to $120 /$150. We will call this red to light green level. This is where I first began to have trouble. By that 5th year 2008, The boardwalk games were beginning to countermeasure with reduced penetration and occasional preferential shuffles. I began playing less and eventually not at all on the boardwalk games. Borgata was big enough, with 3 or 4 different pits that you could play there and not see the same pit and dealers every day.

    By 2009 I had moved to green, that is spreading $25 to $250 and that is when things changed for me at Borgata. This is when I first encountered the odd countermeasure of Bet restricting. They would pull out a bet limit card that said Min bet $5, max bet $50 and those limits applied only to me, no one else at the table. As a matter of fact other players at the table, were left wondering what the hell is going on, since these were $25 tables. It was never explained to anyone. Being on the forums at the time, I was reading about other counters receiving the exact same counter-measure. I guess someone at Borgata made that odd decision, to bet restrict rather than reduce pen or shuffle up at that time.

    I played for a couple months like that. Sometimes I got my green spread in, sometimes I was bet restricted. By late summer the bet restricting was happening more frequently and it became clear to me that my time in Atlantic City was about over. I needed a location with a much bigger playing rotation, so I wouldn't see the same pit people too frequently and I devised a game plan specific to those conditions, playing short sessions, not showing too much info, never showing retreating back to a smaller wager (one of the biggest tells).

    So what is happening in Atlantic City now, as far as heat? I have no idea. It is 10 years since I played there. I have heard that Borgata is still sweaty. So your experience seems to fit right in with that. But you seem to want to compare Today and what you are experiencing to what I experienced 15 years ago when Borgata first opened. And you seem to want to cast judgement and aspersions based on that.

    I don't know if this had anything to do with things, but when Borgata first opened it was a joint venture between MGM and Boyd Casinos, and Boyd, ran the operation. Now MGM owns Borgata 100% and runs the show. Both Companies are now somewhat sweaty, but back in the day, 10 years ago, Boyd was considered fairly tolerant.

    The bottom line is that successful card counting today isn't really about card counting. It is about learning the tolerance and comfort levels of the different casinos that you play, what is and isn't tolerated. Not exactly flying under the radar, more like just avoiding situations that (pit) people have to answer for. You apparently haven't even considered this.
     
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  11. Rustyshackleford

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    wow you responded ! i cant believe it

    well its true i lost over 2 grand and every time i sit down at the bj tables the dealer shuffles up on me 1 deck in
    now what do i do? get a time machine go back 15 years into the past?
    Kewl you sir are a fictional character id still flyer your face all over the gaming houses of usa and around the world but im sure the casinos "dont care" =))
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Rusty ,


    Did you ever consider a Los Limit in your MM program ?
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    The truth about card counting.

    The people making the money are actually hole carding but using counting as their cover story. There's really no money in counting alone, but there's big money in hole carding.

    My suggestion, head to where the games are run by the laziest people around. Go to FL or New Orleans.
     
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  14. Rustyshackleford

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    2k is 20 max bets book recommends 100 max bets but no point since i get shuffled up on 1 deck in
     

  15. Parpaluck

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    Voocewlgahn:

    You, pathological liar and sick coward! You just attacked “Ion Saliu” on bjinfo forum. You did that only because you knew the real Ion Saliu was not allowed in that community of sickos. The real Ion Saliu is always met with this kind of “welcome”:

    • IonSaliu: “Your account has been rejected for the following reason: known spammer.”

    https://saliu .com/ScreenImgs/NormW/Bj21Ban.gif

    This new character derived from another one created in the Zen Zone forum: IonSaliuFan. The owner of the forum, Druggy-Monkey (aka Zengrifter), is pretty good at impersonating. He also impersonated Norman Wattenberger faithfully and fooling most readers. I can see the decrepit Zengrifter became xengrifter and posts only in bjinfo. How sick is that?! He never posts in his own forum anymore and many people thought he was dead.

    I treated you milder in that forum (Zen Zone) as a mercy call. I thought you are a military veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Hence, your delusional stories of successful gambling using card-counting in blackjack.

    Now I can see how sick you are. Following the referrals, I was dismayed to learn that you faked your own death! That’s pathological lying to the extreme! You beat by a wide margin all the sickos of the sick cult I exposed on this page:

    https://saliu .com/bbs/messages/274.html
    Blackjack Card Counting: Systems, Cult, Fraud, Psychotic Behavior.

    “Contrary to the legend, the card-counters in blackjack are big losers, not big winners. In fact, most of them lose so badly that they have no choice but end their gambling activities. The afflicted resort to alcohol or drugs, or both, and hope to find solace by mouth-foaming in forums of the same feather (cuckoo! ... cuckoo!) That's the inevitable reality, because the card-counters virulently ignore mathematics; instead, they trust cosmic hallucinations sui generis.

    The blackjack card counters represent the largest contingent of gambling addicts and pathological liars — beating the “congregation” of old church ladies addicted to the slot machines.

    I call it the Old Florence syndrome after an elderly church lady who was telling people at work that she was always a winner in her bus trips to Atlantic City. She was winning in her hallucinating while her colleagues pitied her financial situation. Pathological liars can only fool themselves, but they can't lie to mathematics.”
     
  16. KewlJ

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    You know you are crazy as shit, parpaluck. I mean clinically, should be institutionalized, Charles Manson type crazy. And probably just as dangerous to society.

    You are banned from every forum you have ever been on. ZenZone is a place it is impossible to be banned from. And yet the owner Zengrifter posted this about you in the past couple days: "No, actually...... Ion was the only whack job in the history of Zenzone to achieve banning".

    What does that tell you? That is like the mental institution saying, No thanks, he is way too crazy for us. o_O And so you are here, perhaps fitting based on the reputation of this forum. But well see how long you can last even here. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Tater

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    KJ. I see you're back to picking on elderly men again.

    That's crazy...and cowardly.

    Now the queer with a GED thinks he has a PHD.
     
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  18. KewlJ

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    Scitzo multiple personality Moses/Tater and others, :rolleyes: repeating his GED lie for the hundredth time. This forum has ALL the nut jobs. No wonder it is what it is and all the legit AP's steer clear.
     
  19. Tater

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    Yet another forum that does not measure up to the queer ones standard. Gee what a surprise.He talks shit on GF every chance he gets.

    Adm. Leave my name as Tater or change it to Moses. Whatever gets the panties out of the crybabies crack. Either one is fine by me.

    Poor, poor KJ. Always the victim.
     
  20. Tater

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    Sorry you lost because of a queer tards "fairy" tail.

    R U any relation to the feller at WOV?

    KJ looney tunes: Let's go with a cross between Pink Panther and Daffy Duck.
     

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