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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Kairomancer

    Kairomancer Active Member

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    To be honest I am not surprised at all, as your personality type strongly reflects schizotypal tendencies, while it is certainly not the same thing, but I believe both have similar roots.
    I think most psychics and shaman type inviduals also have those traits.

    By the way your advice regarding becoming a doer was spot on.
    This is a major life challange for me as I am a thinker analytical type of person and I quickly lose interest in projects, switching up things, often developing new parallel mental interests.

    Do you have an advice on how to make that shift to become a doer? I tend to procrastinate a lot and avoid things, even this post.

    Btw I DO enjoy reading the sporadic segments of your life experiences you share on the forums.
    It is always fun stuff.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    schizotypal tendencies, that's my brother. It fits him to a tee. I'm harassed every day by delusion from within. It's just part of my brain making stuff up that is not there. I'm diagnosed as high function. The first 20 years were debilitating with regards to learning to relate to others and left me in a state of diminished capacity. I was in an advanced education curriculum and allowed to study AC & DC circuitry in an off campus accelerated program when all this hit me at 17. I was never normal after that. My plan for my life blew up in my face. I was destined to be an electrical engineer. A formal education was clearly out after that. I still had smarts but could not stand those first 20 years anywhere near a full load class schedule in any college. I discovered that I liked working with my hands and took a swift opportunity to become an apprentice carpenter in the union.

    It was about a year before all that when I got the pep talk with the "triers try" boost that I needed. That was the moment when I decided I was not going to sit around and let others direct the path of my life. It wasn't that they didn't mean well or that I resented anything. It was like a beam of light that also included hope. Once I got going in the construction industry I mastered it easily. I also became the best. I became the fastest and hardest working carpenter that was on the crews that I worked on. That taught me that I can control my destiny. I can be on a crew the longest as a job came to its inevitable end. A carpenter job is to put themselves out of work. So I learned that you can get yourself hired anywhere in the country. And most important I had a job that allowed me to forget all about it when the 8th hour of the day was done. There is no taking your work home with you after your day is done. You don't have to think about it until Monday morning. And at my young age it was good money too. But I kept a huge secret from everyone. I would do my job right and have a full blown nervous breakdown every day I worked for that first 20 years. I had learned that people don't want to be around others that are suffering and won't shut the fuck up about it. So all this would go on in my head wile trying to be the best framer on the crew.

    I do not know how to give you advice. I made it out of a living nightmare. I don't take psychotropic drugs for this. It turns my ability to think down to an almost state of amnesia with regards to everything. For me it never worked so I just decided to ignore the problem. That works. So every day of my life if someone leaves a blank space in their conversation I fill it in my head with a joke or a punch line. It took years to keep my humor to myself. It's not like tourette syndrome where you actually say what you should keep to yourself.

    Once I had my own money and my own time I discovered mountain climbing and hiking. I took "doing" all the way to the max. You can do anything you want if you are willing to start at the bottom and not care what anyone says while you get better. In fact it's kind of fun to suck at a new activity because you know you are going to be one of the best capable some day.

    I relate well to others because I learned to listen to them. My quest in life was to become normal. I had to learn to do that. It took decades but it also allowed me to keep going right past good enough. So you want advice about being a "doer that does" instead of a trier. Don't let your assumptions or the pressures of anyone in life settle for you as just good enough.

    I honestly can't see a way where any of this can help anyone. It's rare to have what I have and to be very high function.

    I've got it. Take a pill and go completely out of your mind with paranoia. Now get your shit together.
     
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  3. Jhincks

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    Reading the rythm of random outcomes is not as mysterious as most people first assume.

    Certain times certain numbers are highly likely to hit.

    Previous results continually show this to be true, all you have to do is track and order in the correct manner.

    The rythm of 37 numbers has boundaries that can be used to logically identify potential likely outcomes.

    Cheers
     
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  4. gizmotron

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    It's not enough to just see the trends. A good example for this would be in seeing a swarm of triples. That's when there are few singles, doubles, or fours and greater. So if you see a triple and then bet for it to continue to a four during this swarm of triples then you will likely lose. At times like that the winning bet is to bet after seeing a double, and then only once. The trick to reading randomness is to find the working trend. The next best skill is to stop feeding a condition once it changes. If it loses then it changed. It's that simple.
     
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  5. mansi19896

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    now with that discipline you made it work, how many units you have now been able to profit in these last months
     
  6. Sharptracker

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    He would have done much more by collecting forgotten credit on slots... Why do you think he's seeking for fools to make a donation to read the wind?
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    For the record I have directed people here after asking them if they want to pay me a couple thousand for private lessons that will take about 120 hours, 2 hours per day or if they want the free version here where they can learn on their own. They all pick here for free. I also tell them that there are amusing assholes that pretend to be the next plague. They have various forms of disagreement and they always include lies and fantasies. Students are instructed to ignore the pests. That's for free too. So you are sort of a ubiquitous perversion of a dead math and this is your slaughter field. So far this is working great. Nobody has taken me up on the private instructions. But you are working great too as some kind of spandex clad savior. Thanks for being a joke.
     
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  8. Sharptracker

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    Someone who can make real money won't bother himself to save the world and spend 120 hours for couple of thousand while he could make much more by just playing... That's a concept as stupid as your theory.

    But did you tell them that you were the boss???

    In one word: Gizmouton

    Actually you should be the one who pay them a fee to wash their brain and coz you're the one who needs to teach.
     
  9. John Blerg

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    you guys are the definition of rub and jerk off extraordinaire without a single doubt, hands down and take it to the bank.

    swing from cliffs, take psychedelic drugs, winning millions of dollars, teaching out of goodness of heart and concern for message board members, attempting to kill each other with words every day and everything else.

    wow what a great crowd! you guys been on other forums with all of this dribble gook ala creme?
     
  10. Sharptracker

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    The problem is that because that forum is uncensored people use to claim they are above a math reality, certainly to sell their crap to refund their loss...

    It's our stuff, some other for example like to create many nicknames and pretend they sell ice cream while watching asian to bet and so on... Don't you know? And it seems that they don't need drugs...
     
  11. John Blerg

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    O and i thought you guys were auditioning for the Trojan Company poster boys.
     
  12. Sharptracker

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    Yeah but don't worry as soon as they'll finish they'll auditioning to get the best self-righteous and you could participate bro.
     
  13. Nathan Detroit

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    blackjack 1010


    What`s the matter n o sex life in swinging Elnora , NY?


    Maybe at the Rivers casino nearby ?
     
  14. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    hey man i am married for 30 years or so now why the personal insulting?

    yes i play at rivers, so what?
     

  15. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    one can apply the same to roulette, no big secret, wov is like a bible and they will put the casinos out of business.

    here is a sample and a sure way to make millions explain simply:

    How to make a million dollars playing Blackjack!

    So I've seen tons and tons of articles and discussions on how to count cards, how to calculate your EV, ROR and everything else, but never really seen much on how to actually make a living from it. So I thought it might be fun to break things down, both mathematically and practically. So here it is..How to make a million dollars playing Blackjack!

    So you've bought a couple books on Blackjack, learned to count cards and done a lot of chatting on the forums..that's great but how do you actually make a living playing Blackjack?? Its extremely difficult, so I thought I would try to break it down. Let's assume for argument sake you have learned to count perfectly, can keep the running count easily and can calculate true count accurately. Let's also assume you have learned and can implement the I'll 18 indices, and you've decided to become a professional blackjack player. Well, first you're going to need some money..so let's say you saved up a little. You will need both a Bankroll and some money to live.
    If you're going to quit your job and commit all your time to Blackjack for a year, you need to have either estimated the amount of money you need to live for a year, plus travel expenses, or have someone that will help you pick up the slack financially. I strongly suggest preparing the numbers accurately for yourself and/or whoever you choose to walk through life with, and with the understanding that the final outcome will be worth it. So let's talk about your playing!

    Let's assume a common spread of 1-10 using I'll 18 indices (Hi-Lo) playing 2D H17 or 6D S17. Good enough to beat six deck and aggressive for double deck. So we're going to start with a spread of $5 - $50..our big bet coming out at TC+5 and leaving the table at TC-2, and only playing games with a deck penetration of at least 65% (85% for 6D). These games are out there if you try hard to find them, I live in the middle of nowhere and there is a 6D S17 LS game within a few hours away that deals down to less than a deck. Playing this way will bring a win rate of around $17 an hour (or around $2 per shoe) on a 2D game, slightly less per hour on a good 6D game. Let's talk about Bankroll!

    I strongly suggest keeping your Bankroll separate from everything else, so how much money do you need? I would suggest around 100 max bets, or around $5,000. Assuming perfect play, this will give you about a 99% success rate! Meaning you will have a 99% chance of doubling that money and only 1% chance of losing it all. But what if you dont have that much? Well let's check the numbers for what you do have..

    Bankroll:
    $5,000 (1% risk of ruin)
    $2,500 (10% risk of ruin)
    $1,000 (40% risk of ruin)

    So while you may not absolutely need 100 max bets, having less is a bit risky. But you can always roll the dice and see what happens!

    So you take your money and hit the tables for a few months, you travel around, you get a few back offs but you dont let it stop you! You have some good days, bad days, fun times, and lonely times but after a few months of grinding it out you make some money and double your Bankroll!
    That's awesome, so what now?

    So at $17 an hour (or $2 per shoe) theoretically, with perfect play you should double a $5,000 Bank after about 2,500 shoes played. Now, this could happen after only 1,000 shoes or take much longer, but let's say it happened!
    You now have over $10k as your Blackjack Bankroll, well I would certainly suggest a resize! It's now safe to up your bets, I would suggest to start spreading $10 - $100 (or try $5 - $100 if you think you can get away with it), this will double your hourly win rate! Again, it should take you (theoretically) another 2,500 shoes played to double that up, or around 3,000 to bring your bank from $10k up to $25k. And now your new risk of ruin with a $10,000 Bankroll spreading $10 - $100 is again 1%. But for me, at this level, even that is too risky! What happens if after a resize you experience a big loss? All that hard work and months of winnings being lost, that sucks! Well that's why we keep our Bankroll separate, because there is a way to protect it. With a $10k Bankroll, by resizing up you have a 90% chance of doubling it up again and only a 10% chance of losing back what you have won (just your winnings, not your entire Bankroll). If you unfortunately get knocked back down to $5k, you should go back to spreading $5 - $50 and start over, doing this resets your risk back to 99%, if you dont your risk will be around 10%. So if you choose to resize everytime your Bankroll is either doubled or cut in half, you can expect in the long run to double your bankroll 9 times and only have to downsize once. So it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for after a solid year of full-time play to double your Bankroll 3 or 4 times! So as an example, this is what it would look like..

    $5 - $50 ($5,000)
    $10 - $100 ($10,000)
    $25 - $250 ($25,000)
    $50 - $500 ($50,000)
    $100 - $1,000 ($100,000)

    So let's say after a year of full-time play you have logged around 10,000 shoes (or well over 1,000 hours), you could mathematically expect to have doubled your Bankroll 4 times, taking it from just $5,000 - to nearly $100,000! And the best part is now, every year, you can continue to play full-time and expect to make this much, if not more, every single year! You can now begin to put away a percentage of your winnings (let's say 25%) to live off of while continuing to build your Bankroll and keeping your risk astronomically low. Mathematically if you were to run a spread of $100 - $1,000, with a Bankroll of over $100,000 you would expect to rack up $1M of EV at about 25,000 shoes played. That is only a few years of full-time play!

    Now I know what you're thinking by now, this is just a bunch of bullshit! Before then you will just be trespassed by every Casino in the Country and probably end up broke..but try telling that to guys like Tommy Hyland who have been doing this for decades! Guys like KC, Ryemo, Yoshi and myself who are doing this now, or Colin Jones who made millions by not only trusting the math, but inspiring others to do the same! My purpose of this post, if nothing else, is to provide an interesting read and hopefully inspire someone the way I have been inspired. Hope to hear some feedback from you guys!
     
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  16. Rustyshackleford

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    i tried BJ , i live in nyc/phila and went to AC gaming houses, lost 2 grand or 20 max bets and guess what? i get shuffled up 1 deck in every time all the time, so now i need more money to lose more money to be kicked out of all the gaming houses? its a race variance over cat n mouse game? maybe counting does work just not for me again down 2k, and shuffled up on and i dont have access to the west coast or vegas right now
    i have bills rent and a family to help so it just maybe me and not BJ =/
     
  17. Jhincks

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    Sinking 2k into a roulette is much better idea!
     
  18. mansi19896

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    Thank you blackjack man for introducing working strategy, which helps you win personally. You may be first person in here to actually do that, so thats quite cool, but one thing is confusing. Can you clear out how to calculate exactly 65-85% positive session for 6 double before starting to play.?how many wins it should be in a shoe deck to notice it etc..
     
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  19. mansi19896

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    i think i got it the game session has to be completed in shoe 65% and 85, respectively

    but blackjack does it work with rng netent. the famous people you mentioned and who earn with roulette say it doesnt matter. what is your opinion and how it can applied in roulette i dont understand
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    @mansi 19896 ,


    BJ systems do not work with Roulette and the same goes for Baccarat too. Black Jack players consider themselves as Macho and their losses are Mucho too. Ask Rusty above he found out the hard way .
     

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