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Discussion in 'Casino Forum' started by Sputnik, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't care if you lose or win.
    This is not a Holy Grail.

    This is what you can expect from this strategy.
    Win often with a high strike ratio and take occasional losses.
    Yes, you will feel great some days just walking around collecting 50 to 100 Euro in no time with no effort.
    Other days you will fight to break even or accept a loss and you are forced to end what you started.

    Some advice.
    No sports trader believes they will win every trade and know that losses are part of the game.
    This is the mentality you should have to be successful.
    If not you will go around it cycles like a chicken on acid and finally give up.

    There are no long-run claims using this strategy, you need to get the experience and find out for your self.
    You can jump between any of the following tables, BJ, Baccarat, Roulette, SicBo, Craps ...

    83% of all attacks and sessions you will win +1 unit or break even, that is statistically significant proven with 60.000 placed bets with 1,7 House Edge.

    The other sequences will result in some degree of losses depending on what kind of variance and STDV animal you will face, you can chart and track all your sessions and collect the worst sequence collection and brag about what you have been up against 2,5 STDV sequences or 3,0 4,0 5,0 sequences.

    Now you don't need to win every bet to win - read that again - just one simple comparison if you trading tennis you would be unintelligent to think you could predict each game correct and win them all - same apply to EC - the biggest and most silly mistake from most members - my opinion ...

    For example, let's say you use a simple count system and flat betting 1 unit - then 83% of all sessions and attacks (hit and run) will win +1 unit or break even (if you stop).

    Now let's say you make six placement for each sequential attack and lose -6 units and staking 2 units for the next six attempts (attack).
    Now you only need to make +1 unit three times to break even with 2 units stake (simple)

    That is 2,5 STDV if you lose again and now you can be realistic and start accepting losses.
    Repeat and do the same thing with 4 units and win three times (the most common small regression sequence you will find) my experience.

    That is 12 units if you win and are now -6 units, there is no reason to chase or try to win or break even because you are fighting against a sequence worse than 3,0 STDV and should be happy with a three-step regression during that sequence from hell.

    Now assume you lose again, then you will face above 4,0 STDV sequence and should be more then happy if you find and catch a three-step regression - that is Jackpot.
    Let's say you staking 6 units and that would be +18 units with a three-step regression.
    You have lost 42 units and reduce that to 24 units - almost half the stake facing a 4 STDV sequence or worse - that is clever gambling to HEDGE a the situation with realistic expectations.

    But let's say you reach the 5 STDV territories once in a lifetime or maybe twice, then you staking 8 units.
    My point is that you will lose but not bust - that is a huge difference - and even if you bust you hade made some heavy and clever ways to minimize loses and try to hedge every given situation with realistic expectations.

    Now the secret lies in that you only need to win twice within six attempts during any given sequence and start over until break even or reaching a three-step regression (same as each attack end with +1 betting to win two within six attempts).
    All the situations you win your first bet or the second bet or have to fight for a break-even you take the win or tie and start over with the next table.

    This way you can play BJ - Baccarat - Roulette - Sic Bo - Craps or any other game that offers 50% probability ....

    Cheers Patrik
     
  2. BUZZARD

    BUZZARD Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    This is what happens when you do not take your prescribed meds.
     
  3. BETJACK

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    I always like your posts .... It's just a problem that I don't have a good enough understanding of the game to get the most out of them. and to put them into practice.

    Like in another thread One Post And I read and read it and I still can't imagine what it looks like.
     
  4. BETJACK

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    I guess I still don't know ...
     
  5. BETJACK

    BETJACK Active Member

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    How to do This ?

    https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/card-counting/high-low/

    it it something like this.
     
  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    BetJack now I have some time to write - have some trading at 16:00 ...

    You count -1 -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 for each loss
    Assume you play RED

    B -1
    B -2
    B -3
    B -4
    B -5
    B -6

    Each win you reduce one step using the count

    B -1
    B -2
    B -3
    R -2
    B -3
    B -4
    B -5
    B -6

    That is also a losing sequence
    After these situations, you move to the second level and stake 2 units flat betting and repeat the count system until a loss or +3 units or +3 points.
    I explain them below.

    This is the winning sequences using the count system.

    B -1
    B -2
    R -1
    B -2
    B -3
    R -2

    Here you have four blacks and two reds - you won that sequence with two wins within six attempts, even if you end sequence -2 units.
    They can come in many different combinations.

    Now I will show +1 one point or +1 unit regression towards the mean

    R +1

    or another sequence

    B -1
    R +0

    Break-even - start over

    B -1
    B -2
    R -1
    R +0

    Break-even - start over
    That is that, can come in any combination.

    Read this many times STDV and imbalance can come slowly and be weak in increased.
    Then you win twice within six attempts sequences all the time and stop when break-even.
    If you don't reach break-even at 100 placed bets you accept a loss and stop when you recoup half the amount you risk (the imbalance amount). So there will be winning sequences and sequences with small losses during that journey.

    Most of the time and the majority of the time you will win +1 unit or +0

    When you reach a 3,0 STDV you might lose -9 units but made 25 units profit, up and down in a slow phase.
    You never go all in and lose it all back, the small amounts add up overtimes.

    But I don't make long term claims or announce any other claims.
    I don't play this for a living or to win more than I lose, this is only a fun strategy that will buy you dinner and drinks the majority of times visiting the casino no matter if you play BJ, Craps, Baccarat, Roulette, Sic Bo

    There are no patterns or triggers, pick one side and jump from table to table all night.
    A 7 attempt with 1 win and next table with another 7 attempts with 1 win are the same 3.0 STDV with your personal distribution and are same as standing at the same table with 14 losing attempts and 2 wins - no difference.

    Both situations will make you face 2, 3, 4, 5, STDV over time

    Cheers
     
  7. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is what you can accept

    +1
    +0
    +1
    +0
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +0
    -1
    +1
    +1
    +0
    +0
    +0
    +0
    +1
    +0
    +0
    +0
    +0
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +1
    +0
    -1

    Now you can have a slow STDV growth before you lose six or seven attempts
    Then you count look like this

    -8

    Now you know that three winning with next level with +2 units are +6 units
    That means you have to accept -2 units loss.

    Reason to this was that the other side DRIFT TOWARDS STRONGER STDV (imbalance)

    Let's assume you get -20 units and are in 3,0 STDV area then the third level with three winning points with +4 units is +12.
    Then you get -8 units facing a 3,0 STDV

    The calculation is easy - take your current loss amount minus 3 points winning regression and accept the loss and stop playing.
    One second level 3x2 = +6 units minus the losing amount
    Third level 3x4 = 12 units minus the losing amount
    Forth level 3x6 = 18 units minus the losing amount

    Cheers
     

  8. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    So, you are expecting clumping wins to rescue you by periodically increasing your bet than every step? Sadly, it will be more or less like oscar's grind. It may work or may not work. You never know.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

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    RF.cc stuff won't fly here . Wrong forum for that kind of gimmicks in the true sense of the word .
     
  10. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is the end of the road.

    You can use this with singles versus series

    R
    B
    R
    B
    R
    R
    R
    B
    R
    R
    R

    You can use this with singles and series of two versus larger series of 3+

    R
    B
    R
    R
    B
    R
    B
    B
    R
    B
    B
    B
    B
    R
    B
    R

    You can use this with any trends or patterns or the law of series or anything you can think of...
    The count and outcomes distribution is based upon math and probability calculations.

    No need to waste your time with the useless reason why or where to bet when all selections or patterns or trends are the same things no matter shape or formation.
    Put your money on the STDV concept - then you know why and where you win based upon fact and not fiction or gamblers fallacy.

    You will not find any better gambling topic about even money bets on this forum, my opinion.

    As the topic title - Does who know, know ...
    Any other nonsense is just to ignore, my opinion.

    68.3% of the time the divergence would be one SD or less. Either side of the
    MEAN

    95% of the time the divergence would be 2 SD's or less. Either side of the
    MEAN

    99.7% of the time the divergence would be 3 SD's or less. Either side of the
    MEAN

    That only 0.3% of the time would the divergence exceed 3 SD's

    Have a nice time at the table no matter if you stick to one table or jump like a butterfly between them, the same thing no matter what you say.

    Let the majority wait for there useless triggers with no math or probability values and stay losers.
    Losers think like losers and stay losers and winners think like winners and stay winners.

    Cheers Patrik From Sweden
     
  11. jbs

    jbs Well-Known Member

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    Correct. Unfortunately, all of that gobbledygook you posted is just another proven loser bettng system!
     
  12. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Correct. Unfortunately, there is no better existing concept, my opinion.
    Get back to this topic tomorrow and see if there are any comments, now I have some trading to attend to ...

    Cheers
     
  13. albalaha

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    Expecting clumping wins to help gain back all do not work in real life. After a very very bad patch, subsequent patches might not deliver clumping wins for long. Start small and gradually increase bet in patches do no wonder than bringing irreparable losses sooner than later. I call it delayed martingale. Playing for patterns etc are proven failure ideas. Regression or progression or pattern playing is no panacea. A simple simulation is enough to burst this bubble.
     
  14. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    That is silly - all system fails and there is no need to simulate - what a waste of time - all your ways tackle the game among others will lose in the long run - why simulate?

    Math and probability have never been gobbledygook that jbs statement.

    I stand strong until proven with a better concept in public - will never happen - so keep comment - my opinion a waste of time.

    Cheers :) and have a nice evening ...
     

  15. gizmotron

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    I had no idea that you were this smart. "After a very very bad patch, subsequent patches might not deliver clumping wins for long." So you pay your way right thru bad patches. Glad to know where you stand and at what stage you are in your gambling growth. Your advice is far from good advice. Keep working on it.
     
  16. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    And yours is pathetic and useless. Since you could never prove your point in simulations. you can merely write page long posts with no substance.
     
  18. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The reason no one on this forum has a better solution or a better method is that they can not prove an 83% win or break-even strike ratio with statistically significant results with 60.000 placed bets and 1,7% House Edge using 100 placed bets samples.
    The worst imbalance during the simulation was -35 events during a 100 placed bet sample.

    Have a great day and nice evening jumping from table to table :)

    Cheers Patrik From Sweden
     
  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's funny to read your stuff. You don't even know what the questions are. I'm proving my point with people that are not simulations. I just keep teaching the same thing. That's because it works. And the more of them that know it works the more your answers are the ramblings of a feckless messenger. Time is on my side.
     

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