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Roulette Might have to re-think every...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Made you open it (lol). Anyways, as soon as the numbers from hell happen at the CASINO, its time to re-think things.

    I play quite a few hot number methods (Catch the 7 Train etc) and most of them rely on starting to bet after the SECOND hit. On Friday, I had *14* numbers with two hits, NO third hit. I lost a ton.

    So, what to do when you get around 5 double hits without a third? I HAVE NO IDEA.

    Ken
     
  2. TurboGenius

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    To be honest - the first and second hit you didn't have covered, and there's no guarantee a third is coming.
    You have to cover enough numbers (and from the start) that if a few of them don't produce, you can drop them and focus more on the ones that are repeating multiple times.
    That can be done in lots of forms, like your method of dropping off played numbers as others take over -
    but I would still A) play plenty of numbers - catch them before they show and repeat, B) allow enough time for numbers to repeat if they are going to, but then able to drop those that don't. C) stay in the game long enough to handle a drawdown until the ones that you're playing do make a profit.
     
  3. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    For the most part I agree......its the issue of playing "hot" numbers (when you first sit down) and soon discover, there will be NO hot numbers for Ken today. Another example, a few weeks ago, this lady dealer must of hit 18 numbers in a row WITHOUT a double and then took around 46 total spins before the first triple hit. You cant play hot numbers with BS like that.

    Ken
     
  4. Spider

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    I have a set of spins that hit 26 unique in a row and have seen over 20 numerous times. Makes starting betting early a little expensive.
     
  5. mr j

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    For me, its business as usual, back to the grind. I did a thread a couple weeks back regarding 2 hit numbers not getting that third hit etc. and/or too many numbers (over a dozen) with TWO hits, no 3peater.

    Been thinking about whats what and the next STYLE of numbers to bet on (2-4). These are my findings/opinion. >>

    0 hits = betting on that first hit. ISSUE...those few numbers may not hit for 300 spins and you dont know it (yet, lol).

    2 hits = As I described, waiting for that 3rd hit can destroy your BR. Playing my "7/8 Train" works GREAT as long as.....the 3peaters are poppin. If not, you are screwed.

    3 hits = Becoming a 4peater. Hmmm? Well, that number would really have to be hot, no doubt about it. I dont have enough info/experience with this style BUT the idea is still fresh to me, I'll have to dive more into it.

    Which leaves me >>> 1 hit = Becoming a 2 hitter. This will be my main focus for the next few months. If that number has a hit, at least we know its not stuck in a 300 spin nightmare of NO hits.

    ......and we do get "X" number of 2peaters in a 38 spin cycle.

    Ken
     
  6. REV

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    Interesting read Ken,looks like same old problem the goal posts keep getting wider apart i wouldnt mind knowing,how many times u can expect a number to hit 3 times over multiple tests of 37 spin cycles,i read on average at least 2 numbers should hit 3 times within 37 spins? Maybe if it was possible to use streets it maybe be less of a risk?
     
  7. Spider

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    This is correct... on average!
     

  8. REV

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    would be interesting to know the maths on this and if theres a entry point or if the goal posts keep moving wider and wider the more samples that are run,worst case would be 76 spins nightmare i should think.maybe a split progression ,separate the numbers into 2 groups.?
     
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    2 numbers,should hit 3 times in 37 spins.........a street should get 3 hits in 12 spins ? seems okay for my small samples of tests,plus no long wait chart and bet.....:):):):):)
     
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    p.s.this doesnt work longterm or does maths for fun only.......
     
  11. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    There are a few *VERY* good methods regarding HOT numbers, I know, I have a couple of them. Like I said, issue is, if those hot numbers do NOT feel like hitting over & over......they won't. Its that simple.

    Ken
     
  12. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Ken,

    Look closely at a few things. These are some real suggestions.

    1. Is the ball the same
    2. Is the wheel speed close to the previous speeds.
    3. Is the ball drop impact widely variable.

    This will help...

    1 Track the ball impact/strike point number on the rotor. Not just the number hit, but the first number the ball actually strikes. Simply put...the ball will "try on" some numbers/sections of the wheel more frequently than others for some good physical reasons. Record these strike points and use them help pick your hot numbers next time. Because If the bus isn't stopping near your numbers, then you can't catch a ride.

    2. Scatter will change with ball as may the hot numbers. Have a separate set of numbers for each ball if necessary.

    Good luck,

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone
     
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    @Ken,
    I devised a method that bets the numbers with the highest hit frequencies. Indeed, I chose to bet upon the numbers in the highest two tiers in hitting. Say there are 7 nbrs with 2 hits, 4 with 3 and 1 nbr hitting 4 times, I will bet the 4+1=5 nbrs of uppermost two tiers. In ordinary sessions, it does great but there are certain downsides of this way of playing the hottest nbrs that I would like to point out:
    1. They may not win flat bet
    2. If flat betting doesn't win, we need a progression and with varying size of bets (in my case it could be anything from 2 to 15 nbrs) no progression strategy works.
    3. If it get struck to get a hit while too many numbers qualified, it sucks.

    Possible recourses:
    1. Limit the max nbrs that u can bet upon together
    2. Use the mildest progression considering only long run results
    3. Start from atleast 5th hit of a nbr. I have observed that, not too many nbrs cluster at that stage, so easily as u find at 2nd or 3rd hits.

    I personally have discarded any such betting where bet size varies and there is no feasible progression. I play fixed size bets be it 2 nbrs or 24 nbrs.
     
  14. mr j

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    Thanks for the method Al !!!

    Dr Sir Anyone Anyone >> So lets say the ball is spun VERY very fast....skip that spin maybe? Most dealers here, spin damn slow, they simply dont care (which is good I would think). Does my betting have to be PER hot number or what about a section? Meaning, lets say I get really good at this (over lots of practice) and the section that
    should hit is the >> 18 6 21, how many to the left and right do I add on? Also the 19 31 & 33 16? (seven total?)

    I hope that made sense.

    Ken
     

  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    It doesn't really matter how "fast the ball is spun". It's the speed of the wheel that matters, not the speed of the ball.
    You don't need to bet a section at all. One number if fine.
    If you're betting a section, then it shouldn't be any wider than three to seven numbers on those wheels up there.

    What I'm suggesting is that you track where the ball is impacting the rotor the most, and then pick the hottest numbers that are closest to these locations after having tracked.
     

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