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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Smitridel

    Smitridel Active Member

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    Damn edit time..

    All in all, the core of this method is hunting down small gap hits and on specific "hot" numbers (session wise). It does happen a lot but I havent found a suitable possitive progression to match bad variance patches.. Unless you are using units 1/15000 size!
     
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    I 'm trying to study what you 're writing. And yet they don 't understand. Why do I have such a stupid head?
    Are you implying slippers somehow? How can they be used?
     
  3. Platton

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    Yes, same to me. I test a lot of ideas, but not always a good result. Many help to see something new when sharing here. But so far, it doesn 't lead to good results for me.
    I can share what I 've been testing so I can clean up numbers that don 't last long. No matter what leading position it would not be in. I took as a basis that the average number drop-down is 24 rotations. And I 've been testing that if the numbers I bet don 't fall on within 24 spins I remove them. And when it appears and it 's in the table, I put it again. And I mean, it 's better than putting it all the time. Results it is better. But not always. Depending on how the leading numbers go. If constantly stable - then good. And if often change, which also happens - it is worse than just always putting. I used a positive progression. So of course it still depends on the progress you choose. We need to test all sorts of things. I also tested up to 36 spins, and if the number didn 't fall - I cleaned it, and when I appeared I put it again. And also up to 28 spins, up to 18 spins, up to 12 spins and up to 8 spins. And I want to say that the best thing is up to 24 spins or near.
    But in general, it may not matter, because Turbo said he kind of doesn 't clean up numbers. Then it is necessary in some way to look for such progression that some compensate others who do not fall out and bring a loss. Here, with the tests, who did, I think the bottom line in the positive progression is that it brings profit while numbers fall out, but at the same time you raise the rate every time. And then that number that made you profit has a bet bigger than others and it doesn 't fall for long. And despite the fact that at this time there are other numbers, they have a smaller bet and they do not compensate for the number on which the big bet is already, and it does not fall. And there 's not one such number. And so all the profit that was after turns into a loss. Even if it is very good to select numbers, the essence does not change. Sooner or later, the numbers that made a profit then bring even more loss.

    P.S. There is one question for those who can win, if itcan also to Turbo itself. Turbo always has a maximum of 20x in the tables he shared. So is it worth playing only to the 20x or is it possible to play even before the 50x and still win? Thank you!
     
  4. Smitridel

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    Unless Turbogenius changed his method, he plays 2-4 numbers (building up to 4) which seems in line with the whole concept of top 3.

    Also I think that the 20x are just for example's sake to emphasize the persistence of hot numbers - you definitely dont need to play that far to come up with a profit, provided that you set a profit goal.
     
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  5. Denzie

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    The amount you bring to the casino...
    For example 1000€...
    Goal..try to win at least 500€ or more depending how fast the hits come. If your method works you will win most sessions. (Personally im doing bit of "curve fitting" ..if things not going well or slow i might take a few 100€ and stop)
     
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  6. Denzie

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    50x ..thats not even playable. You'll need tons of redbull for that. Lol

    20x is just for showing results

    200 spins is already a lot .
     
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  7. Denzie

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    Why wait ? Then you miss that hit hoping it happens again very soon ?
     

  8. Smitridel

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    I dont mean wait and not betting.
    I meant keep betting 1 unit (playing it low) untill you come across b2b hits and hopefully more frequent hits on your selected numbers.
     
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    Do you reset unit value and charting on a new high (while building up to your profit goal) or do you keep raising?

    I've found out that if you dont reset you get your goal (and sometimes even more) faster. BUT you are more susceptible to bad variance. Thats the beauty and curse of a positive progression :)
     
  10. Denzie

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    o_O
     
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    Im not in the position to tell what or when to bet . As im still testing and fine tuning it. :banghead:
     
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    LOL Im just asking your experiences on your way of betting cause I dont play that way and I usually carry on until profit is reached.

    I remember that you are one of yhe members of rf.cc that used to post in TGs threads :)
     
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    I understand that saying something directly is not right, but your hints only tease and angry, because I don 't understand what it is about :sorry:
     
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    Ok thx. But why say that need tons of redbull? It leads me to certain thoughts. I recently asked can we win on a rng or only on a real wheel? If you can win on rng, then the 50x it is not so long. But I understood you. Do you tell 200 rotations? And you can make a profit? How it is possible? I mean a normal profit.
    Today I wanted to quote something and started reading from the beginning. Like you, I also saw that it was necessary to pay attention to Eugene posts. When I found this thread and translated what was being written here, I didn 't pay much attention to the Eugene post at the beginning. And it was wrong to translate it and understand it. But now that I 've already done so many tests and understand what 's going on during the tests and what to pay attention to, I 've seen what Eugene is writing about. You also recently quoted those posts. And I added to my spin tests today, although I just wanted to test like that, but the information Eugene shared made my vision easier. And I tested all day today and observed and watched in terms of as wrote Eugene, but it confused me even more. As I realized, at least what he drew attention to - so the game is only on the top 1 number, and with the expectation when there will be a trigger to play. But it does not work anything for me. Why is this understanding so hard for me?
     
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    Hello all, thanks for this interesting thread and discussion. From what i understand,

    You get the three columns A B C, where:
    Column A has all the first hitters( first to 1x, First to 2x, and so on until 20x)
    Column B has all the second hitters( second to 1x, second to 2x and so on until 20x)
    Column C has all the third hitters( third to 1x, third to 2x and so on until 20x)

    You will get 3 columns as follows
    A1 B1 C1
    A2 B2 C2
    ...
    A20 B20 C20
    ...
    An Bn Cn

    Looking on each ROW ABC so created, the bet will be:
    1) betting ALL three ABC numbers as a group until the next row completes
    Say betting A1, B1,C1 until all A2,B2,C2 appeared
    2) when ALL A2,B2,C2 appeared bet those numbers until the next row A3, B3 ,C3 appears

    Progression ideas:
    A) column based progression
    While the numbers A B C change, the progression can be kept to each column ( treat A1,A2,..An as one number and apply your positive progression on that number +1 step on a win. Say we start with A1 1 unit and no hits on A2,B2,C2, next row conpletes keep 1 unit on A2, we got a hit on b3, raise the A2 to 2 units, next A3 no hits ,keep 2 units on it, next A4 hits at C5, 4 units on it and so on.
    Positive progression staking plan 1-2-4-8-16-25 stop.

    B) three number progression ( check out turbogenius thread about when to increase the progression and use that idea for your 3 numbers /or use this calculator
    Google loothog progression calculator
    Starting with 1 unit on 3 numbers,
    Screenshot_2020-05-27-11-42-07.jpg

    View attachment 5362

    As shown in the initial post by TG on the matches column, you rarely will get 2 rows without a match.

    Another idea would be to consider each column ABC an individual horse race and bet the highest hit number. If two or more numbers share the same number of hits, stop until one is +1 ahead. Eventually be at least +2 hits ahead of its chaser.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Will not work
     
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    I wonder where Frodo is..........Did he got it ? That click, eureka moment ....
     
  19. Smitridel

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    Now this is a very structured summary and interpretation of the method. Kudos!
    Personally I use the first version (first progression style) with the only difference that I build up to 3 numbers discarding the previous "columns" as soon as the number(s) have moved on to 2x 3x and so on.

    Also a question to Turbo that Ive always wanted to ask: what kind of BR/unit ratio do you use?
     
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  20. Denzie

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    Run 111 spins for 50 times. Check how STD behaves for TOP hit numbers. When a number starts slowing down , remove it if you play it. Target numbers which hit above 1 STD. Remove numbers that are going cold. (Bet on the leaders and not those who are far behind with a progression) (can be more than 3 numbers ! )
     
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