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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. SERGIO

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    I can also share information if you want, but saying the same thing that has been said, is not different information, it is the same as Turbo said, when I see things that are not already exposed share, I will also share!
    But if I have not shared many times, it is because people speak ill of me and I will not send those who throw stones at me!
    for example, I could say other ways of looking at the law and that it also works.
    but here we are talking about Turbo and its forms.
     
  2. Jono1167

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    I’ve been following this thread for a few days now. Very interesting. Thanks to Turbo for sharing and thanks to Notto for the tip-off.

    Having seen Turbo’s charts on page one of this thread, I thought I would see if I could produce something similar. I have used AYK’s Tracker (V8) to keep track of spins. I could only go to 15 levels.

    Under the first, second and third columns, I have recorded the hit number. Next to it in brackets I have recorded the spin number. In the green or red box, I have recorded the value ‘since last hit’. The green box indicates a hit within 35 spins. The red box indicates a hit greater than 35 spins.
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    Only eight numbers occupied a possible 45 locations:14, 25, 3, 33, 20, 13, 23, 15

    A good start in line with Turbo's expectations.
     

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  3. Quos

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    Hi Denzie!!
    no, I'm not Azim, also here I still can't send private messages.
    my nickname here and in roulette-forum is "quos".

    Regards!!!
     
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  4. Jono1167

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    Something to note. The green boxes outnumbered the red boxes 28 to 11 (28W 11L)
    You could implement a strategy whereby you place one unit on each number which appears in the the top three positions. You keep the unit in play for 35 spins. If no hit in 35 spins, you remove the unit and take a loss (-35).
    If you had of done this in the above session, you would have ended up with a net profit of +165 flat-bet. (550 win - 385 loss).
    Anyway, that's just one session. Let's see if we can replicate something similar with a new session...
     
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  5. Denzie

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    Funny as i did something simular today... It ended up in minus...But got in plus a few times also....
     
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  6. Jono1167

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    Cheers Denzie. I'm not expecting that particular statistic to stay positive all the time, but I would be surprised if it went too far into the negative.

    Are you the same Denzie from Roulette Forum CC? I have been following your posts for years!
     
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  7. Smitridel

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    Imagine what you could have done if you used even a soft positive progression on the numbers that kept hitting in less than 35.

    Basically the phenomenon is there (thats why TG says to take advantage of it with progression) but my experiences with flat bet are bitter due to the fact that you end up betting 3 numbers so you actually need a hit inside 11 spins to get closer to profit or even break even.
     
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  8. Denzie

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    That is me yep :wacky:
     
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  9. Denzie

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    How about your matches column?

    Mostly i get 1s and 2s.
    3s not as much though
     
  10. Denzie

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    And once passed the 10x the gaps get to big.
    The action is at 3x up to 10x imo
     
  11. Rulet

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    Few times I tried to play all the numbers that managed to get to the top 3 spots. (From 3x to say 12x)
    The thought process was there is going to be roughly 12 unique numbers on that list. It was a struggle but won in the end (negative progression)
    The problem was some numbers never get to top 3 but hit equally as good as the top 3.
    Maybe top 4 numbers?
     
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  12. Rulet

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    I personally think the trick is to play increasing set of numbers and then reset to top 2 after a hit and keep doing the same. I have had success with this strategy.
    This way you get to catch the numbers who take the lead before they do.
     
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  13. Smitridel

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    I disagree.
    The danger from a negative variance combined with increasing bets is way too much (for me at least).
    Should you choose to go down that road arm yourself with a lot of patience and always keep an eye on the bankroll.

    You could also find a median of up to 4 numbers instead of 3.

    I personally prefer to wait and bet through the waves for the phenomenon of consistent hitters and Keep the Faith (long live Notto-Naughty).
     
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  14. Jono1167

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    I have finished a new session. Again, testing over 15 levels, as this is as far as I can go with AYK’s tracker.
    Another solid set of data in line with Turbo’s expectations.

    Chart-2.jpg

    This time I had twelve numbers occupy 45 locations: 30, 32, 23, 04, 30, 03, 09, 31, 16, 18, 33, 26.

    The green boxes easily outnumbered the red boxes 30 to 6 (30W 6L).

    Again, the strategy was to place one unit on each number which appeared in one of the top three positions. The number was kept in play for 35 spins. If no hit in 35 spins, the number was removed for a loss of 35 units (-35).

    This session finished with a net profit of +408 units. (618 win - 210 loss). I’m not saying this is the way to play, but it’s an accurate way to record the data.
     

  15. Jono1167

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    Agreed, some of the numbers were red hot. I will certainly experiment with a positive progression when I have recorded more data.
     
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    The Horserace after 35K spins flatbet. Looks positive to me. Thanks Turbo for all your clues.
     
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  17. Smitridel

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    I am a bit confused.
    You say you place a unit on each number that appeared in top 3 for 35 spins.
    Which should mean that you change your selection based on the top three performers.

    In that case i. e. you started playing at 2x 32 (3 spin) and you played it again at 4x 32 (68) because it had a gap of 28 spins.
    So 68-28= spin 40 But since it started on 2x on spin 3 40-3=37 spins gap which is more than the 35 spins rule that you stated.
    Which means that 32 was still in your selection even though it wasnt in the top 3 performers. Right?
     
  18. Jono1167

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    I’m sorry Smitridel, I understand the confusion. I recorded all of the data without placing bets. When I was laying out the information in excel, I thought it would be good to incorporate bets over the top. It’s confusing. I haven’t done a good job. I’ve saved a screenshot of the AYK tracker results. Let me redo everything and repost.
     
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  19. Smitridel

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    No need to apologize friend, just glad that you cleared the confusion because it didnt make sense to me.

    Looking forward to your flat bet viewpoint of it :)
     
  20. Jono1167

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    Thanks Smitridel - I got myself into a knot trying to apply values after the event.... Importantly, the raw data in the spreadsheet match Turbo’s expectations. I’ll get back to it.... I always enjoy testing!
     

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