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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Denzie

    Denzie Active Member

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    You should redo all your sessions to see whats best. I did your session above too..didn't go to wel...that would be a loss and i would start my next session at 2u
     
  2. Rulet

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    Denzie
    Go to page1, there
    I don’t trust RS, the real game is a lot harder.
     
  3. Rulet

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    What do you do when the second session goes bad?
    Start next with 4units?
    That’s negative progression isn’t it?
     
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  4. Rulet

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    It’s like binge drinking.
    Even if you don’t drink much but if you drink the same time every day, it’s classed as binge drinking :drool:
     
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  5. Smitridel

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    He shared his version on page 10 or 11 I think where he shared his RSim game and you can see his way of betting even if its not the "best" way.

    I just adjusted his version to my own.
     
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  6. Smitridel

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    I always redo my sessions but I always have a feeling of curve fitting since I know the negative outcome of a method and using another one may work best.
    Its the way I ended with the current one since it beat all my previous bad sessions and had great results in new sessions (unknown outcome) as well.

    But in a real game scenario you really dont know which one would fit best since there isnt (probably) one method to suit all sessions.
     
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  7. Smitridel

    Smitridel Active Member

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    All these days Im busting my head on how you organise your columns.
    Can you please elaborate?

    If A column is the first to nX how come in your example you put 10 and 1 as the same level 2x?
    Wouldnt that be First to 2x #10 and second to 2x #1?

    And if so what do your other columns show?

    Unless you take into account how many times a number will come first inside its coressponding column but in that case your example sequence of numbers doesnt make sense..
     

  8. Rulet

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    Start with 3x
    Played a session 30 minutes ago.
    94 spins
    Look at #32 easy session
     

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  9. Denzie

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    Yep. Thats why we need to have more winning sessions than losing sessions. So you've got a bad session now ... but whats your profit over all your sessions? ( count your test sessions too)
     
  10. jekhb1976

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    When i play this kind of method, i always play max the top 5 numbers within a session of 175 spins max. (Flatbet) and reset everything on first profit. When one of the other numbers that i don't bet on passes the rest i drop all numbers current in play and start with 1 number again until i have 5 numbersax again.
    When i don't have a new high at spin 175 i start over with +1 unit as basebet.
     
  11. Ricky_BRS

    Ricky_BRS New Member

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    Hi Jono,
    I implemented your rules in RX and flatbetting it looks pretty good
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  12. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Have a look at these
     

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  13. Jono1167

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    The chart looks great Ricky. Thanks for testing in RX . Results are still holding steady for me too.

    Plenty more testing coming up this weekend.
     
  14. Quos

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    @Ricky_BRS @Jono1167

    You only play the numbers that appear in the first 3 columns until no hit in 35 spins. As long as they don't fail, they keep betting. But until when? 500 spins, up to 15x, up to the first positive and restarts.

    Thanks!
     

  15. steeefan2014

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    @Ricky_BRS may I please have your email address? I need your help with something.

    Thanks!
     
  16. CDN

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    To Smitridel

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    Column A
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    Column B
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    Column C
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    Column D ( you need to compute this yourself)
    Same as above, fourth numbers to 1x, 2x,..nx

    Column E(you need to compute this yourself)
    Same as above, fifth numbers to 1x, 2x,..nx


    You are counting each show of number in its corresponding column(A,B,C and so on).

    You don't need to bet all numbers in the column. There is a smart way to go around and be on the majority of the hot numbers.
    Look at this column
    27(1)
    20(1)
    10(1)
    18(1)
    5(4)
    29(2)
    7(4)
    25(4)
    8(2)
    --------------------------------------
    Hottest numbers 5,7,25 each with 4 shows.
    Can your method bet "catch" at least 1 of them, how about 2, how about all?
    Betting on 27, 20, 10, 18 would be a mistake, wouldn't it? They only show up 1 time.
    So if that is not a valid way, what else do you see?
    Can you see #25 bundling up 4 times in a row?
    Sure you can
    How about number 7? Three times in a row!

    My numbers on this column would be, in order of appearance #5,#29,#25,#8,#7
    #29 and #8 would be losers- no one is perfect
    I would win 2 times on #5 and #25
    And 1 time on #7

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    Next Column B
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    18(1)
    1(2)
    7(4)
    29(2)
    5(3)
    25(1)
    27(3)
    8(2)
    0(1)
    10(1)
    --------------
    Hottest numbers 7(4), 5(3), 27(3)
    My numbers on this column would be, in order of appearance #1,#29,#5,#27,#7
    #1,#29 and #7 would be losers- no one is perfect
    I would win 1 time on #5 and 1 time on #27

    Next Column C

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    7(5)
    10(2)
    18(1)
    29(2)
    25(1)
    27(1)
    0(5)
    8(2)
    5(1)
    -------
    Hottest numbers: 7(5),0(5)
    My numbers on this column would be, in order of appearance #7,#0
    I would win 2 times on #7 and 3 times on #0

    OPTION 2
    Just bet the latest repeating pair, until another one shows up

    ex Column A
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    27
    20
    10
    18
    5
    5 bet 5(=last consecutive pair)
    29 L
    29 L bet 29(= last consecutive pair)
    7 L
    5 L
    5 L bet 5(= last consecutive pair)
    25 L
    25 L bet 25 (=last consecutive pair)
    25 W
    25 W
    8 L
    8 L bet 8
    7 L
    7 L bet 7
    7 W

    Use a 2 step positive progression on a hit number, 1-5 , on a 5 unit hit reset your progression to 1.
     
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  17. Smitridel

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    First of all, thank you for the time you took to reply with such a well constructed answer.
    Really, its refreshing to read and study posts like yours!

    I guess, I just misinterpreted the example (the sequence) you gave to Quos.

    Now, about the method:

    I already applied a week ago the first betting option you just described choosing my bet numbers based on how many appearances they had on their respective columns (up to 3 numbers).
    It worked really well, untill it didnt - talking about real play.

    Maybe the problem was in the progression - mine was not aggresive enough.
    Given that I used Martingale on each hit and didnt reset, when the gap of appearances between the hottest became too wide, I was chewing my own BR and lost.
    The fact remains though: When you get a hit and you up your progression even by 1 step it could take several spins to get the selected number in front again.
    I guess thats where the multiple columns come in, as you can have multiple contenters but then again you may be getting a big drawdown due to an equal distribution and wide gaps and/or interchanging "racers" (Losses).

    I will try your prog suggestion though and see where it takes me.
     
  18. Smitridel

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    Also @CDN :

    Do you up the 2 step progression even if the number that came is not the originating column?
    So i.e. you select from First Column (A) #5 and it hit some spins later BUT on the second column 2nd place (lets say it did) - in that column (B) number 5 was the fist time so no other #5s to consider it consistend number.
    - Would you consider that hit a win or do you consider a win only if your number is on the same spot of the same column and only in that case you up on your progression?

    Last but not least, would you bet all numbers as they qualified or would you go column by column?
    I mean you start betting #5 but you wait until its disqualified/won to move onto the second column and check if there are qualifying numbers or add them as they come?
     
  19. Rulet

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    Ok, betting the last consecutive pair could be a problem.
    I have seen in a seen in a session wherein #28 hit 6x, started playing when 4x then there was a gap of at least 100 spins before showing up again.
     

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  20. Rulet

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    Another issue is some numbers don’t get on the rostrum much but hit just as good as other numbers.
    Look at number 3 , 6 , 12
    3 and 6 saved the session but not consecutive on the list
    No consecutiveness other than 28 and 29 on this list
     

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