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Roulette Is it possible to Beat Roulette?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    There are no long term roulette players, it is more the number of spins that matter. Indeed if you take the turbogenius case who played the game fictitiously for 20 years, he thought that a number could sleep max for 400 spins while the long term stats dictate it is much more than that, around 650.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Bago,


    In all likelihood M Dawg is a well disciplined well heeled Baccarat player playing a 5 step parlay starting with $ 500 up to % 3, 500 Dollars .


    That according to one of his own posts .
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    3,500 Dollars. For clarification purposes
     
  4. MDawg

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    As long as you take enough on the good shoes AND walk with it, Baccarat is a good game.

    I love that there is no bust - you either win by the points, or you lose by the points. I hate the fact that when we bust and the dealer busts we still lose at BJ, but then hey, that's the primary basis for the BJ house edge.

    But still - what I'm saying is that my experience is seeing a bank or player run of six or seven at least once every Bacc. session (session, not shoe - with my average session being say, four shoes) - and I'm asking does a roulette player see six or seven blacks or reds in a row every session?
     
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  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I'm a long term roulette player. How often to I see seven black or red in a row? All the time. I've seen 26 reds in a row at the Taj Mahal 2007.
    Looking for the longest runs is a silly way to approach the game, since there's no way to side step probability. The same is true for bac.
     
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  6. MDawg

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    Does "All the time" mean - every session?

    As an aside: the time you observed 26 reds in a row, did you win a lot of money? The time I experienced a little under that in two parallel runs of over twenty each at the Baccarat table I clinched an over quarter million win for just that casino and took home all of it, and I wasn't even betting as hard as I should have been. You give me a shoe with runs in it I will always make money on it, without fail - I have never been one of those players who look back at a great shoe and wonder how they could have lost at it.
     
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  7. Nathan Detroit

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    Can Baccarat be beaten ?
     

  8. Denzie

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    It happens a lot but NOT every session
     
  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    I see it everytime I'm playing in the casino. Very common. 18/38^5 for six in a row of either red or black. 18/38^6 for specifically red or specifically black. In a pinch you can just round off and expect a run of six in a row of either red or black about once every 2^5 ...about one in every 32 spins. Very common.
     
  10. Denzie

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    Basicly you parlay 6 or so steps and done?
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

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    Seeing a streak of Red or Black either go with it , against to or do nothing . My choice : do nothing .
     
  12. gizmotron

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    You will like this ND. I go one full price attack speed and then after a win one more at half that price. Then nothing. I look for another trend. Instead of the fractured 2, 1, 2, I'm going 1, .5 instead of 2, 1.
     
  13. Nathan Detroit

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    Even better: 3-2-1 by considering Frank Barstow`s principle of diminishing probabilities regarding repeating patterns of even chances.
     
  14. gizmotron

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    Look at it this way. I'm looking for the stronger trends or patterns and just nibbling at them with level 1. This way that you suggest is to go for all 3 net wins on the first bet. I nibble to get my 3 net wins. Those .5, half bets, are just on the chance that I might get two of them and be done sooner.
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    Or like Frank Stanton used to say nibbling on the cheese .
     
  16. MDawg

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    You're referring to the time I got twin runs of over twenty side by side players (separated by just one bank) and won over a quarter million? That afternoon - that whole trip - deserves a chapter in a book, but at the time I got the twin runs I was already up quite a lot and had been winning consistently for days, and had declared that I was going to win a quarter million.

    I got a natural nine, then a natural eight on the player, and something clicked in my brain, and I put $15,000. (the max at that time) on player and rode it until I was past my quarter million goal. Sadly, I let off the gas at that point, and played only about eight hundred a hand until the twin runs ended. To this day I still think about how if I had kept it up I would have cleared close to eight hundred thousand (when combined with what I already had). I did walk with about $289K though and took home every bit of it.

    To this day too, when I get a natural nine then a natural eight for player somewhat early in the shoe I get excited hoping that another monster run is coming, but it hasn't ever happened quite like that again, although I have had plenty of fabulous runs of twenty or so, but not side by side runs of over twenty each as those might have been once in a lifetime.
     
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    It seems a lot of people believe a progression can annihilate the house edge, even those who studied the game for decades. When you are stupid, you stay stupid, there is nothing you can do for them.
     
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    Einstein's IQ wasn't really that high, sorry to burst your bubble.
    160(ish)
    There is a kid I read about that has an IQ of 263, and currently there are tons of people who's IQ is much larger than Einstein's.
    Also, Einstein never tried to solve "the roulette game" - there are a few fake quotes that he made about that game that as it turns out, he never said. But I understand - you don't care about the truth, and anyone smarter than you is simply a person to insult and not learn from. Makes sense in your childish world.

    Only on a defective wheel. Find me a defective wheel lol. Sure, he'll say there's one in every casino - but no. Again - hunting for the unicorns and trying to win on them before the casino fixes them must be a massive waste of time. What he does has nothing to do with math - it's just about logging spins once you find a unicorn wobbly wheel and then trying to play it before that well runs dry.
    I prefer to win on any fair wheel in any casino - without trickery or defects, or hidden computers - and for that I'll never have your respect lol.
    That's what 99% of people want to do so I have theirs instead while you guys bitch and moan about my posts. (and then you contribute nothing at all to the forums).
    Strange isn't it ?
     
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  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Any problem with Frank Barstow principle of diminishing probabilities ? Not for Baccarat mind you.
     
  20. Bago

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    I am talking about people here, no one has an IQ close to Einstein, you can claim that the quote of Einstein has been invented, the fact is it is true, no one has ever proven that Roulette was beatable by maths/stats. Funny that you say I live in a childish world when you are the one spending all his time on child roulette games fictitiously. There is nothing to learn from you, I suppose everybody already learned Gambler's Fallacy. You are a joke.
     
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