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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Jono1167

    Jono1167 Active Member

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    “...multiple contributors to a common goal. Random will take care of which contributor makes it first to that goal.”

    It sounds like you have put a lot of thought into this Ricky. I like your rationale for using a positive progression.

    Please keep us posted with results.
     
  2. jbs

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    I'll save you a lot of time and money. It DOESN'T have an advantage. It will ALWAYS have the same 5.26% or 2.7% disadvantage no matter what you bet!
     
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  3. Smitridel

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    The thing about positive progression is that most people use it even when they are in the negative BR territory just because something HAS to happen and they are hunting that phenomenon.
    So at its core, it has the same rationale as a negative one.

    I can only accept a possible positive progression if someone used it drawing only from the profits gained (playing with the casinos money).

    And no, if the strategy cannot win (even +1) using flat bet, it has no real advantage.
     
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    Well Turbo that was and interesting read.

    A hot number is only ever hot because it was obviously cold from prior and Random has to catch up.

    I see what your trying to accomplish which is smart. You flipped it on peoples head. While people marty against streaks of 7+ because the likelihood of it continuing is slim. You are going for a much bigger "Pattern capturing" then people going Anti-Streak.

    You are going off the premise that this number hasn't hit much in the past and now it has to catch up and start blasting "repeats" to match its statistically distribution. What i'm afraid of is how "Long" can a number not meet its obligations. So this requires some form of Martingale which is terrifying and almost not usable.
     
  5. Naughty but nice

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    I guess Eugene would reset after spin 6; too avoid battling the wheel.
    Now why does it seem flat at times?
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    Why all the red? well how many more #'s go 1x, then become R1, these become R2 and get to R3.
    How many more #'s become R3. Before going R4.
    These spins are slow for the starting 37, only 28 have hit. Will the remaining hit fast, go 1x only for these to go R1,R2,R3 and then give R4?
     
  6. Naughty but nice

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    So, look where the R4 came from. Would you be betting it?

    Remember chief Riddler’s saying 1x go R1, R1 go R2, R2 go R3, R3’s go R4.

    So, are you going to bet the R3’s who become R4.

    Horses, behind top 4 are going to try to get to be top4, so will deplete the BR. Will R4’s press on; how many more R3 would you bet?
     
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    Good #17 is pressing on. But those behind top 4 spot are moving. Will 1 of the R3 hit or will it be more movement behind?

    72 spins, 0x are slow; so, 1x must come, so too R1, R2 and then R2 making more R3 to bet?

    Would you carry on with R6, R5, R4 and R3, but when you have 4, R4 drop the R3? But, more R3, will come and go R4, making more R4 to bet.
     

  8. Naughty but nice

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    So #36 is a mover, made some profit.
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    Get another R4, would it be time to drop3?
     
  9. Naughty but nice

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    You see yellow 2 consecutive non-hits, now have 30 0x’s.

    Also, there was movement behind top4; but when the #1 went R4, drop the R3. The #1 went R5, more profit.

    This is good for repeats; but, what happens if the 0x’s are fast and then the 1x’s fill fast, too much movement behind you top spot; is it bust time?
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  10. Naughty but nice

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    Excellent, too much action behind top 4.
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  11. Naughty but nice

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    Just filling up behind.
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    Non-hits came and others just fill behind.
     
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    look how the R4 are filling.
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  13. Naughty but nice

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    So, where I just kept going, showing how the action behind kills ya. If you play sensible and avoid to many #'s
    you can win.
     

  15. Smitridel

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    What kind of progression did you use?
     
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  16. Naughty but nice

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    Jono; can you see?
     

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  17. Naughty but nice

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    Now drop the R3, where the last 2 wins came from, but not in the top 4.
    Question is, when do you take profit; round 18, +72 or go on?
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Your repeaters testing looks pretty grim. The draw downs are garish too.

    If you just pick numbers at random and run the tests, the results will look the same.
     
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  19. Naughty but nice

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    Wobbley; you haven't a clue
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    In 55 spins you'd still be waiting
     
  20. Naughty but nice

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    Chief unicorn carry on looking.
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    Good enough; time to reset.
     

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