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Roulette 3 ways to bet on a "cool" number

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by BlueAngel, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. BlueAngel

    BlueAngel Active Member

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    1) When a number has 4 hits with gradually increasing intervals from hit to hit bet that its next hit will happen in equal or less spins than its greatest interval.
    Example:
    1st hit <---- 23 spins ------> 2nd hit <----- 45 spins -------> 3rd hit <----- 70 spins ------> 4th hit
    In such case we would bet that number for up to 70 spins because that was the largest interval.
    The logic is that after 2 increasing intervals in delay there will be at least 1 reduced in regards with the 3rd largest interval.

    2) When only 1 number has not shown count how many spins is being absent, let's say that it's missing for 150 spins so in such case bet it for the next 150 spins, if it was 130 spins then bet it for 130 more.
    The important is to begin betting AFTER all other numbers have been shown at least once, use the duration which this happens as the limit for betting the last number.

    3) Chart the spins for the longest absent number, let's say that the last remaining number hits after 200 spins, thus the longest interval from hit to hit was 200 spins and now we are going to bet that the specific number will not miss for more than 200 spins for its 3rd hit.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Why must it?

    Logic dictates that you should not start betting on your target number until it has not appeared for 70 spins. But betting on the coldest numbers itself is so slow that you can watch glaciers move faster.

    What force makes your hypothesis work? Cold numbers often under perform for as many as 600 spins before heating back up. You would lose your shirt in that scenario.

    You Like "Better Call Saul?" You better call Ken. He is an expert at dealing with the coldest numbers.
     
  3. BlueAngel

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    The logic for method number 1 is that numbers cannot have ONLY increasing intervals, at some point there will be a reduced interval in regards with its last and largest interval of spins.
    I wouldn't bet against 2 increasing intervals, but I would bet against 3 to become 4.

    About the number 2 method I consider it to be the weakest link from these 3, however the principle is that personally I have not witnessed a number to miss for more spins than all the rest combined, for example all numbers except the last 1 come in 150 spins, the last remaining will hit sooner than 300th spin (150 + 150).

    The # 3 has to do about the Regression Towards the Mean, we take the longest interval, say that is 180 spins from hit to hit and bet that the next/3rd hit will happen in less than 180 spins.

    You may call such methods boring BUT you can't say that are paranormal or insufficient!
     
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  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I get it. It's true that mathematically there will be more 3 increasing intervals than there will be 4. I've never been able to get mathematics to tell me when a trend will start. How long it will last. And when it will end. That applies to your method too.

    Now if you play 30 or 40 sessions you might find a trend where a sequence of sessions performs just like you hope it will. You can target the good math and try to avoid the bad math.

    You do know that there are much more active forms of "action" don't you? There is nothing magical about your trend. If you apply your logic to hot numbers it will disclose the good math and the bad math sections more easy. I would grow old. You should be able to take 10 to 30 spins and see opportunities that will reach your goal in less than 30 spins more. Trends are the way to win. Waiting on hundreds of spins to see one trend is boring. Even Chance bets are balanced in just two bets. One win = one loss. There are oodles of trends that occur in the EC's. Anyone can get good at staying very close to even. All it takes is skill. You get skill by learning. You back it all up by experience. It would take years to get the needed experience with cold numbers. Good luck with all that.
     
  5. BlueAngel

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    Yes, I'm aware that there are more active ways to bet but are they winning ones?!
    There is no better way to bet on a cold number, active numbers need a different approach...all I can say is that "hot", in contrast with "cold" numbers, need a collective summation while "cold" are the lone wanderers...

    I already provided clues about repeaters on a previous topic of mine.
    ECs are not my cup of coffee, you're betting on a bunch of numbers which are unrelated, someone called them Black, Red...etc, so that's not good enough reason to bet them all together.
    I prefer to make my own course rather than utilize what others prepared for me...
     
  6. gizmotron

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    Of course everyone will naturally go with their own best interests.

    >>"you're betting on a bunch of numbers which are unrelated, someone called them Black, Red...etc"<<

    They are related. The red is one set and the black is the other set making up the grouping Red/Black. I'm betting on the sets to make up trends. But that is just my preference. I'm not intimidated by the layout of the wheel or the table layout sets. In fact I have six more sets making up three more groupings just for EC bets. That makes up 12 sets and 6 groupings and is more than enough to see opportunities.

    To each his own.
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

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    With all the semantics when is this blue angle cat ready to play ? Betting $ 100 or even 1 K ? I don`t believe he ever pit down $ 1.


    It`s a;; key board jockey bull crap without merits .

    At his regular forum the audience is bored to death with his rhetoric .
     
  8. BlueAngel

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    Allow me to know my personal reality better, I don't know about you but I've traveled to several countries and casinos, most likely more than you ever see in your lifetime.
    I know people like you, there are at my country too, they are feeding their gambling addiction week after week and year after year, they are long time losers but they are unable to stop gambling because they prefer to fool themselves...
    Even if I 'm wrong about you I simply don't care because all I care is my personal reality and this shouldn't be of your concern.

    Do you get it Nathan?
     
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  9. BlueAngel

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    In general betting "sleepers"/"cool" numbers is not so good idea, but if YOU HAD TO bet this way then the 3 betting methods, especially the 3rd, are the optimal to exploit long term sleepers.
    However there are better ways to bet but this is another story.
     
  10. Sharptracker

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    Indeed, you suggest to bet on numbers that are late or doesn't show up instead to bet on numbers that hits more than others... But the ideas are seductives, maybe you could try to adapt it to hot numbers...

    GL
     
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  11. BlueAngel

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    Whether we bet "hot" or "cold" the risk is always involved more or less, the only completely risk free is to bet 37 numbers simultaneously and by doing so you'd prove the mathematicians correct because you'd lose exactly by the HE 2.7%!:)
    What I don't like about betting sleepers is the time involved before you begin betting, at BM casinos is almost impossible to play this way, thus impractical.
     
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    When you play sleepers you're betting against bias play which is a way to get an edge...
     
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    Betting against bias play is a way to get an edge?
    Could you explain what you mean by betting against bias?
     
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    you're playing against bias coz you'll never play sleepers with bias play...
     
  15. BlueAngel

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    No, my first choice is not sleepers and the repeats are not equivalent with biased wheel simply because they are occurring anyway, regardless of physical defects or not.
     
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    I never meant it is the equivalent but look you come and play hot numbers and you notice 29 is hot then you'll play 29... If next to you a guy took datas of the wheel and see that 29 is biased then he'll play 29. If you were playing sleepers you have less chance to match with him...

    I know of course it won't make you rich but it is just such a nonsense to go against bias play that can provide an edge...
     
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    You can (if you choose to) look into my Minimum Interval system in which the player takes advantage of
    the known fact that the Min. Interval of each location WILL drop to 0.
    I've demonstrated this and tested it, played it - it's certainly one of the best ways to attack the game.
    I uploaded this earlier in the year as a demonstration showing the predictability of random outcomes.
    Each Min Interval ends up being 0 - therefore yes, betting the largest Min Interval locations is key
    since we know this value will drop to equal 0 for every location.



    The "random is not predictable" crowd cannot and will not explain how so many
    aspects of "random" ARE predictable and can be used to win - but then again they
    have no idea how to win obviously.
     
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    This leads to the conclusion that since there is uneven distribution it makes sense to back shown numbers/locations because most likely are going to come above average in order to fill the absent ones.
    Common sense after all!
     
  19. Sputnik

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    I like this idea, but don't understand how to apply it with real money or real play.
    For example, I run Roulette Extreme and wait for one number to hit four times and then check the distance between them.
    Did this twice and lose both.

    Nr 6
    Distance 1, 11, 5, 0

    Nr 15
    Distance 8, 26, 7, 14

    I play 11 times with Nr 6
    I play 26 times with Nr 15

    Both fail

    What is the idea behind this?
    That you have a 100 step one number progression and continue to search for four number gaps and play the longest until a hit.

    Can someone explain this in detail?

    Cheers
     
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    @Blue -
    It's common sense but remember the naysayers will say quickly that it is
    all "Gambler's Fallacy" - expecting something to happen based on past events.
    When in reality - "random" produces predictable results.
    There are many cases where we can say "This WILL happen".
    If that event hasn't happened, then yes it is going to happen - there's no fallacy here.
    But that's what they've drilled into their own heads.
    It's like saying "Dozen 1 and 2 have shown but betting on Dozen 3 to show is a
    "fallacy" because nothing is due". Which is complete rubbish.
    Dozen 3 WILL show - the player can't know exactly when, but they do know without
    a doubt with 100% accuracy that Dozen 3 WILL show at some point.
    There's no fallacy here.
    Same as 11 streets for example having a Min Interval of 3 or less spins, while one street
    has a Min Interval of 20 spins. Not betting on that street ?
    "Random has limits" - they like to make jokes and laugh when it's said, I've said it since
    the beginning and they love picking on that phrase, yet anyone can simply show the
    limits that random has for themselves.
    The street with a Min Interval of 20 for example WILL show, and will show at a rate
    that catches it up with the others. This is fact, not a fallacy.
    The only "Fallacy" in "Gambler's Fallacy" is that the term is a fallacy.
     
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