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Roulette 30 Unit method

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by nevk, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. nevk

    nevk New Member

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    I am testing a method after reading several of Turbo writings, and I would like to seek your opinion on this, if this is workable in real time.

    Money management:
    BR required: 30 units
    Stop loss:30
    Exit on first win for the day.

    Method:
    a) You arrive at a table and you start placing a bet on last number(s), that had hit *more than once*. Place bets only on those numbers that are shown *after* you arrive at the table.
    b) Increase the unit value by +1 after every win that you receive until new high is reached.
    It means you will have 2 units on few numbers and 1 unit on others. For our BR of 30 units we don't need to think beyond that.
    c) Exit on loss or a new high.

    Well, I tested with help of a program for 45 days for all available tables in Wiesbaden and here are the results:

    Test results from 14.09 until 28.10 on Wiesbaden Tables:

    Total sessions: 384.0
    win: 228.0
    loss: 156.0
    Win %: 59.375
    Net Profit:1853 units

    I am yet to try it with real money.
    I tested several other variants of Turbo writings and quite a few other methods but only this variant showed net positive returns over long run of testing.

    Important to note is the money management, if you alter it any other way then results will vary.
     
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  2. judge

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    Thanks for posting your method it looks promising. I am a little fuzzy on your starting trigger. You say to start placing a bet when you arrive at the table on number(s) that have already repeated. Are you saying to look at the marquee and look for repeaters? The marquees where I play go back 12 numbers. If I arrive at the table and there is only one repeater in the last 12, do I bet only on that number until it wins or I lose the 30 units? You also say to exit on first win but you also say exit on loss or new high. Could you explain further. Thanks again, Mark
     
  3. nevk

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    I never look at marquee. You start note down the first number after you arrive at table. Past spins that existed before you come to table does not matter.
    I meant to exit on a new high or complete loss of 30 units. During the period of play even if you are +4 units, we need to exit there immediately.
    Do it until positive or die with 30 units is the approach.
    Reasonable win rate cancels all those prior losses.
    I also tested two separate tests, one from 14.09 until 15.10, another test from 16.10 until 28.10 just to see if it’s consistent enough both times.
    Sorry to confuse you, I hope it’s clear.
     
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    Thanks for your reply. One more question...When you start writing down the numbers and you have a repeat, I understand you start betting. do you continue to add any repeaters until you win or lose your 30 units? so you could have 3 or 4 repeaters is that correct?

    Mark
     
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    Thanks Mark. Yes, we continue to add the repeaters until we lose 30 or gain few units.
     
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    I have been playing with this and what I have noticed after any win of 35 takes you to a new high because you never go below 30 am I correct?
     
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    so how can you increase your bets?
     

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    Simple, fast, easy to track and manageable - one of Turbo's oldest tricks.
    The only requirement is to always keep track of your won:lost session ratio.
     
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    I get that but what I don't understand is how you could have 2 units in one number and 1 on another. Let's say 3 numbers repeat you are placing 3 numbers and your 25 units down. When you have a win you are 10 units up a new high. If you lose 2 more bets you are minus 30 so you stop. You would never have the need to place 2 units. See what I mean?
     
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    Yes indeed that is weird..
    It works flat bet if you count W/L sessions and have a 30 BR however the up as you win doesnt make sense if you take into account the BR limit...
     
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    Maybe Nevk can explain?
     
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    Thanks Smitridel, valvo.
    Let me check my program again and will give you printed output of a sample session. Will be back soon.
     
  13. nevk

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    Here is the printed output from one of the successful sessions:

    Input File name: \Turbo\Test\03.10\Permanenzen_SBWB_2019-10-03_T1.txt

    (Note: I assign 0 to numbers that showed once, just to keep track later in the program, in the overall balance these are not counted )
    unit size is increased after we receive every win(means number showed twice or more, see spin 8 and 9 below..)

    As I said I am testing it, there could be some mistakes please let me know. I also attach BR growth for all sessions.

    Spin:1, First number:19
    Balance is:30
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:2 current number:10
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0}
    Balance is:30
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:3 current number:22
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0}
    Balance is:30
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    Spin:4 current number:17
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=0}
    Balance is:30
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    Spin:5 current number:3
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=0, 3=0}
    Balance is:30
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:6 current number:11
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=0, 3=0, 11=0}
    Balance is:30
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:7 current number:32
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=0, 3=0, 11=0, 32=0}
    Balance is:30
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:8 current number:17
    WIN!
    unit size is:1
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=1, 3=0, 11=0, 32=0}
    Balance is:30
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:9 current number:32
    WIN!
    unit size is:2
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=1, 3=0, 11=0, 32=2}
    Balance is:29
    ------------------------------------------
    Spin:10 current number:17
    WIN!
    unit size is:3
    Numbers to bet for next spin are:{19=0, 10=0, 22=0, 17=3, 3=0, 11=0, 32=2}
    Balance is:62
    ------------------------------------------
    NEW HIGH: 62
    END SESSION
     

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  14. Smitridel

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    Ran some tests (around 180 sessions) and I have to say that it usually evens out.
    The first 90 were through flat betting.
    The other 90 were through progression (up a unit) like the example above - same results.

    It seems to me that for every win another loss came or 2 wins 2 losses in a row.

    I think what *may* be wrong here is over-betting on the new repeater.
     
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  15. nevk

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    By betting higher unit size on new repeater we just hope to catch some number repeating immediately!
     
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    Thanks Nevk but after your first win it's a new high, you should stop reset correct?
     
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    That’s not correct.
    If you look at the session play report, you would see that there are 3 wins in total, out of them first 2 are actually virtual wins used to start placing bets and to increase the unit sizes. Remember that we started off with unit value 0, as we don’t actually bet on first show numbers.

    First virtual win let’s us to start placing bet on 17. Second virtual win let’s us to place bet of 1 unit on 17 and 2 units on 32.

    And, then the third win came on 17 by letting us into profit zone(this time we placed bet on 17).

    Hope it’s clear?
     
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    Yes I get that and it works sometimes.

    However " hope" is not good enough for me as I need a sense of progress. I think that as a hit n run tactic flat bet would be better.
    If overbetting every new repeater, it becomes more risky and less time to catch a repeater since BR limit is 30.

    I will test this extensively.
     
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    Sorry for being a bit slow. At what stage would you have 2 units in one number and 1 unit on another?
     
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    Exactly at Spin 10 above, we have a situation that 1 unit on 17 and 2 units on 32.

    Assuming that we want to continue further, and not stop the session there, then we will have our next bet as: 3 units on 17 and 2 units on 32.
     

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