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Baccarat A Typical Day At The Casino.

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by BaccaratForLiving, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. BaccaratForLiving

    BaccaratForLiving Member

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    https://www.reviewjournal.com/busin...hind-las-vegas-strip-revenue-decline-1651904/

    "So what other variable has figured into the Strip’s decline in gaming win? It’s the game that many Strip resorts offer, but few other locations have — the incredibly volatile game of baccarat, a favorite among Asian high rollers and the game of choice in Chinese gaming enclave Macau.


    In March, the Gaming Control Board reported the 319 baccarat tables at 22 locations won $51.3 million, a 56 percent decline from March 2018. Volume of play was down 42.1 percent to $484.3 million.

    The win percentage was 10.9 percent, below the norms of 12-13 percent, indicating gamblers played lucky against the house."



    Good article about about LV declining revenue. Maybe players are getting smarter and winning.


    Happy winning!

    B
     
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  2. blulu

    blulu New Member

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    Its true you do find many patterns repeating up to 13 or more. Catch it from 5 same pattern or more and you can have a run. Same applies to roulette(i.e.B/R) but you have the zero to contend with.

    BFL do you flat bet or is there a slight progression ?
     
  3. BaccaratForLiving

    BaccaratForLiving Member

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    I do positive progression 124, lately I increased my unit to Orange ($1k) and using strictly 12 positive progression.

    Good luck,

    B
     
  4. Gerard Spero

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    So you keep track of the shoe in groups of 5
    PPBBP
    BBBBP
    BBBPP would that be a winning shoe and your up with a 1,2 positive progression and finished for you session??
     
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  5. BaccaratForLiving

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    I don't keep track in groups of 5. I keep track using normal vertical charting. Below is typical chart using your example.

    P-B-P-B-P-B-P
    P-B-*-B-*-B-P
    *-*-*-B-*-B
    *-*-*-B

    Good luck,

    B
     
  6. R19

    R19 Active Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Last UNLV research I check showed the hold rate in baccarat in Nevada/ Vegas has increased. So they make more on less volume = lower revenue. I think that Vegas gaming revenue will continue to decline because of increased gaming in other states, increased gaming on-line, AND the fact that Vegas is not selling gaming. They know this already and have been selling vacation, resort, party, restaurant, shows, and everything buy gaming for a very long time. Look at their marketing and PR. It is mostly focused on the par-tay.

    Most people that go to Vegas are too stupid to do anything more than put money on a table.
     
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  7. R19

    R19 Active Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    UNLV:
    Nevada Gaming Statistics: January Historical Comparison Statewide figures for the month of January, 2008-2017

    It would figure that there is a difference in stats between consistent and local players of all games and the typical Vegas type tourist. Because the total number of typical Vegas type tourist is much larger then stats are more representative of their numbers.
     
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  8. judge

    judge Active Member

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    Update please. I'm from Kemah. Its just ouside Houston.
     
  9. BaccaratForLiving

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    Nothing has changed, with the exception of my unit size (Now orange). It's a typical day really - still making a living playing Baccarat. Always keep win target per session low i.e. 1 -2 units (much safer), and increase your unit size. I will be playing in Baccarat Tournament on the 23rd weekend at L'auberge - swing by and watch.

    Take care,

    B
     
  10. judge

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    Thanks for the response. I may be at the Golden Nugget that weekend. How will I find you?
     
  11. BaccaratForLiving

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    Don't try to find me. This is my livelihood - but, I can give you a hint. I'm an Asian guy with lots of orange chips. I'm currently in my suite responding to your message. So far up 6 units for the day.


    Cheers,

    B
     
  12. judge

    judge Active Member

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    Yeah that'll be easy.... trying to find an Asian guy at a Baccarat game. Sir, Ihave no intentions of interrupting your livelihood. You invited me. I was just interested in having a drink and picking your brain, as well as watching you in action.

    Cheers
     
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  13. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, B, I have been following ur thread,for a while, I have a few queries, Is group charting done in combo's/ inversions of minimum of 3 & 2 ( BBB/PP or PPPBB)) and not 3 & 1 (BBB/P or PPP/B) 1'S & 2'S are out cuz they are too volatile but combos can be grouped into.numerous combinations, ( 3 & 3) ( 4 & 2) ( 4 &3) (4 & 4) ( 5 & 2) etc _ the list is endless, Secondly can the grouping be done the other way around also, e.g (2&3) i.e PP/BBB, ,or (2 & 4), (3 & 4) etc, Thirdly to start betting do we observe the combos & the proceeding decisions in the beginning of the shoe ( e.g BBBPP, _ _ bb,p,b) respectively & then later in the shoe if we see same combo/ inversion which act as TRIGGERS we bet the same following decisions (bb,p,b) in the same order until we lose,(flat betting / positive prog) & lastly can we jump in mid shoe also, kindly clarify, BTW keep up the good work, Thanks
     
  14. BaccaratForLiving

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    I don't do group charting. I use the typical vertical charting display provided by casinos. I'll try to keep it simple - if you look at the displays at the baccarat table you can see certain patterns. What I look for is an outcome of 5's and see within that shoe if I there's a repeat or an inversion

    e.g. PPPPB - when I see P again, I will bet 1 unit on P (win), next bet is 2 units on P (win). Follow the betting 2 more times (if you're behind from prior attempt). If not, you are done for that session. Take a break or wait for next shoe.

    If you encountered a loss - stop and wait for next pattern repeats or inversions to bet.

    A good way to practice is to walk around and glance at the displays -- if you see a repeat/inversion forming, place an "air" bet and see. Basically, you want to guess 2 correct outcomes in a row before a loss. Hope this help.


    Good luck,

    B
     
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  15. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, B in one of ur previous posts u mentioned not tracking groups of 5's, but now u are saying about looking at outcomes of 5's, & do the 5 outcomes have to be combo of P& B's, Can u quote with one or two, more examples, thanks
     
  16. Jimske

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    I haven't been reading this thread until last few days. I think I get the gist of BFL bet selection. I'm thinking that his duplicates and/or inversions don't have to be exact matches but similar. Am I right or wrong BFL?

    BFL states he makes 5-15 bets per shoe. Maybe you mean 5- 15 bets when there are opportunities to bet since it seems that "matches" are far and few between. Below I post 3 shoes randomly selected form my data. Perhaps you'd like to demonstrate what and where you'd bet.

    Thanks.

    DUPLICATES.png
     
  17. BaccaratForLiving

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    On your FX750 Chart, I will give you demonstrations on how and where to bet.

    BBPBP is your first 5 hands. As you can see a repeat is forming (horizontal line at i) BBP start betting 1 unit on B (win), bet 2 units on P (win), and stop.

    On the same shoe, if you look at (horizontal line W) you can see BBBPP, it also has a repeat (horizontal line AA). BBB start betting 1 unit on P (win), bet 2 units on P (win). For me, by looking at the chart vertically you can see pattern repeats and inversions easily.

    Also on your FX751 Chart: Your first 5 hands are PBPPB - a repeat is forming at horizontal line G, PBP start betting 1 unit on P (win), bet 2 units on B (win), stop and wait for next betting opportunity. If you encounter a loss - Stop and wait for next possible repeats/inversions.

    There are many repeats on your FX750 graph, another one at M (horizontal) and DD (horizontal)

    Gotta go, checking out late today. For those who want an update on this trip. I've made 15 units minus tips and expenses, taking home $14k and some change.

    Cheers!


    B
     
  18. Junket King

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    Wouldn't it be much simpler to write these in a 5 column format?
     
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  19. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi,B , Good Luck, meanwhile u mentioned just 2 winning opportunities in each of both shoes, where as there seem many losses as well, Can u kindly demo at least one complete shoe from shoe no Fx 750, 751 or 752 ( as u would have played in casino)with both Winning & Losing bets, to give us a clear picture & Secondly out of 5 outcomes do u observe 1st 3 hands which match with ur 5 hand outcomes( which u observed before in the shoe) & bet for only 4th & 5th hand, if u win 1st bet u parlay & stop & if lose 1st bet u stop, and wait for next opportunity .&Thirdly do u always chart 1st 5 hands of the shoe for observation, & lastly is there any particular criteria / combination of singles, doubles, streaks for charting 5 outcomes, which u consider as qualification for placing bets later on in the shoe, thanks
     
  20. Jimske

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    Yes if he is only looking at 5 repeats for duplicates or inversions to repeat but it appears he is making bets after a start of duplicates without waiting for 5.

    OTH, using a 5 column might give as many match opportunities just different combos. I wonder if betting anti-match would produce the same results? You get that part!

    There's a guy where I play who plays matches with some bet criteria. Haven't had a chance to talk to him much since we are both playing and then gone. I'll run this by him later this week if I see him.

    But a lot of Asians play similar even if it is not to the extent that BFL does. I was playing next to an Asian lady recently. In general they're not talking to me, LOL But I saw how she was betting and I said "you're going to bet P here, huh?" She says yeah and showed me the previous "match" back in the shoe. Later another came around and I said "you're going to bet B here, huh?" She says, yeah. LOL She won both bets - - I lost both, hahahah.
     
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