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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 4 - 2021

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 10, 2021.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    At the risk of beating a live horse - here are results from betting each dozen section as it's own
    game. 1x to 20x.
    A win rate of 1 in 35 or better is needed for profit - how did it do ?
    I highlighted the wins because the people who believe in Gambler's Fallacy might actually
    stop to look at it that way. Predictable ? I'd say so. I suppose someone could argue that
    all the matches don't mean anything, the wheel has no memory...etc... but that's up to them.
    This session I ran off in RX but also doing a bunch on RS played the same way so people can see
    it spin by spin.
    Either way it works flat bet - but why not increase the bet on every win ?
    As long as you are winning better than 1 in 35 - the choice of progression doesn't matter much
    other than to adjust how much you win.
    Cheers.
    You're friendly neighborhood Destroyer of Lives (sorry, had to)

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    If the highlighted parts don't prove once and for all that random is predictable and the
    balances don't show that the player has the advantage - I'm not sure what could.
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

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    Mind posting txt permanence file for the above array ?
     
  3. thereddiamanthe

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    Anyways, remember the file & the question I've sent you months ago ..
    This is THE answer in the first place.
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here are the spins from this chart.
     

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    Do you mind sharing under what nickname in RS do you have the example sessions?
     
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    Turbo, there's 493 outcomes in the text file.
    Your example shows 20x cycles.
    Is the cycle length 24 numbers & why?
     
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    24 is the average interval between 1x-20x, 409/17=24.05.
    Those 1x-20x are not cycles.
    This is not Turbo’s A-game, just something to get you’re proces of thinking going.
     

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    I am process ??
    Its not B either.
    493/20 = 24.64

    Turbo, why 24 -- in 24 number 'all' three dz rarely get a 3rd repeat - three winners,
    even two ain't that many, having muktiplrn2x- peaters on each third.
     
  9. Ordinary_people

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    Thanks turbo for your effort to give free of charge explanation.

    Will try to learn and try it.

    Btw do you trust about RNG in games casino online provide ?

    I know RX and RS is RNG too but thats just a game or not real include money. But in RNG i said above include real money.

    Thanks
     
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    Yo, trafficker of information. I think im playing roulette a similar way to yourself. Repeaters/small amount of numbers, max 6. In your play have you come across games of 150+ spins before hitting profit or do you chuck in a stop/loss at a certain point? I just had a game that went for 162 spins before i made profit on a 9x repeater. Have you had games like this or am i doing something wrong. Cheers
     
  11. Ordinary_people

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    Turbo,

    I cant make profit like you do. I just try games in casino online. So it's RNG

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    I know i just make 12 X.

    But have different significant average with your file.

    If i look your file, if you just 12x spin just 170 something to 200 something spin.

    But my spin from 234 - 279.

    Thanks
     
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    Thats the thing about it...as it is in part 3 also...

    Some sessions those columns are a lot more choppy...I wonder how TG handles that.

    TG ? Lil help pls
     
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    Den if you read the RF, PM.
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    93; 1/37 spins. Matches gone flat. would 1 block of 93 spins downloaded from R-sim be different.
    Turbo didn't like R-sim spins in a post somewhere.
    +450
     

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    Well, maybe not.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    I'm still working on it, I did a few resets trying to find the best way to attack this without putting out the wrong information.
    Will post a link to it when it's ready.

    Not sure that I understand. I took the total spins / the total wins to get the average of spins between a win.
    In the case I posted it was below 35 for dozen 1 and dozen 3 but it can be higher too when things don't work out
    as nicely.

    yes

    No. I only play online at Golden Nugget because it's a live wheel and dealer video stream.
    I wouldn't trust a RNG as it's too easy to rig against the player.

    Well, RX is using a different form of RNG than what RS uses - I'm not happy at all with RS being a fair and random game.
    I've seen too many things that are "impossible" happen, and the fact that it reloads the page every spin could mean
    the number spun has some connection with the bets placed. I've just seen too many things that aren't possible with RS.
    RX on the other hand uses a seed and produces random numbers regardless of how you bet.

    Nothing wrong, it happens. The worst scenario is when the leader swaps back and forth with another number and you
    don't win on either of them because the bet location keeps switching back and forth. This is terrible when it happens.
    My chart above didn't happen this way, but it does happen. It seems safer to bet the 1st and 2nd number to each 1x,2x, etc.
    because even then you have them both covered so they can swap back and forth and they are wins.

    Yes. Answered above. It might be better to cover more than just the top number in each dozen.
    Also the problem happens where the "hot" numbers are all in one dozen but we aren't betting on them.
    There's nothing that says each dozen will have a hot number to win on - but it usually happens that way.
    Again, might be better to disregard what dozen the number is in but it was an attempt to make it more playable
    and easier to track with the table cut up in sections.

    Yes, explained above. I've seen impossible things - the naysayers will say "it happens" but it doesn't.
    For example, I picked 4 numbers to play and never changed my bet... every number on the table appeared and
    the last 4 numbers to show were the 4 I picked. This is almost impossible odds. It would be the same as me
    picking 4 numbers and they all appeared in order one after the other.
    Also winning no matter where you bet, but other times losing even when most of the table is covered -
    over and over again. ie. betting all numbers *as a test* and the results end up being 0,0,0.
    I can't say it's actually picking numbers at random or if it takes the table info and then reloads the page
    with a number based on where the bets are placed. Just that I've seen things that just don't happen.
    (30 spins without a repeat - incredibly rare... but happens when playing for a repeat) etc.
    The update on the right side of the screen showing the last games, who played and win/loss have frequently
    been all losing games (20+ different players/games in a row). Even with everyone playing different
    ways and different amounts - at least 1 person should have won their game. Just strange things...

    Will post more as time permits.
    Cheers.
     
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    Also, I should note that I've done testing on the spins at RS.
    I put the max amount 3k on dozen 1 and if it lost I would try again.
    If it won I would put 9k on dozen 1 and if it lost I would start over.
    If it won I would max out the locations on dozen 1, using the entire
    27k.
    I tracked every spin with RX as well.

    At the end Dozen 1 just happened to be the dozen/column that had shown the least
    out of the 6 possible locations (not too strange).
    Dozen 1 also never repeated more than 3 times, while every other dozen and
    column had 4-8 in a row, the dozen I bet on never won more than 3 times in a row.
    In the end it was producing results much worse than any other bet.
    It also was the only 2:1 bet that didn't show for 18 spins in a row.
    It's not conclusive and I will test this theory again and see what the results are.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Oh my, who knew? All people had to do all along was bet on repeaters. Wow, why didn't that ever occur to someone?

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  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Did you ever consider having your own forum section like this one ?
    You can post topics and educate people - I think it would be great.
    You could even fill it with funny pictures and memes I suppose. I think you should do it.
     
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    An idea ..

    Me, I am using ST bets only occasionally, in longer games.
    Also, I play mirrored/concurrent games on each H/L EC.
    Moreover, I alternate wide & focused bet coverage, after wide hits.
    Eg: 2Q→2ST, 2Q→ST

    I adapted my system to close with single ST bets, thus keeping the drawdowns=bankroll requirement lower.

    ST position equals 3SU.
    What showed positive results (=fairly quick hits closing hit resulting in a nominal new high → restart) -- is tracking each L/H sections separately, & use those 3SUs for the closing bet.
     
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