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Roulette airball wheels...who knows the TRUTH

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    give me facts

    back up those facts

    give me links

    are the wheels rigged? if the wheel is rigged and can land on any number it chooses then it would not NEED a speed up and slow down feature to deter VB players
     
  2. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    "The VB players descended on these airball's like herds of locusts, only to discover the folks who manufacture them saw them coming way back in the planning stages. VB and bias players are dinosaurs who are still living in the 90's in their minds. Very sad.."
     
  3. mr j

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    I can only speak regarding my experiences, no one else. We had/have it here at my casino. A few years ago, I did play it maybe 50 times over a year(?)

    I stopped playing it. Why? The break thingie would apply BEFORE the ball was even in a damn pocket yet.
    Whats with that shit I ask (lol) Also, I dont think the launch points and speed of the wheel AND ball is a coincidence regarding where higher bets are placed on the wheel. That is my OPINION. Those games are classified as SLOTS, not a table game.

    Also, I had a one number progression that went up to 140 spins. My method (at the time) was wait until all numbers crossed off until one left, start progression. We are talking around 300 total spins. Yep, I lost THREE times in one month, fuck it. (lol)

    During the late stages of the progression, the ball landed like 85% on the OPPOSITE side of my number. Its all a program and that program knows everything (almost everything) you are attempting to do. You asked for PROOF. I dont have any proof, just my word. I dont do videos etc.

    Someone did tell me (not sure if its true), you can see ALL bets on the board. Look for HIGH bets from other bettors and bet lower units on the opposite side of the wheel during the last few seconds before it is waved off.

    Ken
     
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  4. IDPA

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    As Airball roulette is all we have here locally, I have found it to be pretty good, at least to me!

    I only get to it about twice a month now but it isn't showing me anything like you've experienced.

    I'll continue to play it until I hear some definitive proof that the machine is rigged.

    I
     
  5. gizmotron

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    Spike dug up patent information on these (Slot) Airball machines. In the wording of the patents are features for the wheel to have synchronization speed controls based on the ball speed so that a sector can be deliberately targeted based on the bets. The machines are programmed to have a payout percentage programmable. They even brag of its capacity while selling it to the casinos in their sale's brochures. It's a computer to determine ball drop sector in reverse. I would not play Airball. I play rapid roulette based on a real wheel and dealer in the crazy California (cards) style. But even that could be manipulated. All it would take is an algorithm that re-positions the cards with a scanner routine. Any wheel can have a wheel speed control on it if they want to cheat you. Who knows for sure?
     
  6. mr j

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    ...and thank you.

    Ken
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Its why I mentioned..... (00 wheel), lets say a guy is betting heavy on the 10 25 29 12 8.

    I would bet smaller units on the opposite side (imo).

    Ken
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I knew what you meant when you said it. It makes sense too. If they can build Russian Bots that join online forums and carry on conversations, and they can, then it is nothing for a Roulette Bot to be able to see what sector is most heavily loaded up with bets.
     
  9. foreverbob

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    If this is the way we'd be supposed to play roulette, I might as well just quit the game entirely. There is enough interference already to place online bets without too much hassle.
    It would be a very poor and miserable endaveaour from the casino if they would actualy realy mess with our play this way.
    SAD
     
  10. mr j

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    Just saying, if I see $25 unit bets on one side of the wheel, I *WOULD* bet $10 units on the opposite. Thats just me.

    Ken
     
  11. RouletteGhost

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    the verdict is still in the air on the airball wheels

    i see no reason WHY it would NEED to manipulate since the game has a house edge either way

    my local casinos classify them as slots thats why they are legal
     
  12. gizmotron

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    Don't you know that the gaming commission allows slots to pay off at different percentages that can be adjusted? Did you not read that the casinos that have these things have control of the payoff percentage rates. That is exactly why they are regulated as slots. They even connect them together as a parlay slot section.
     
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    cant argue that

    just dont see how or why theyd rig airball
     
  14. gizmotron

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    They don't rig it. They manipulate it so that it pays off at a rate guaranteed to the casino, just like the slots do.
     
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  15. RouletteGhost

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    i know it may be pure speculation...but...magnets?
     
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    It's in the patent papers. It speeds up or slows down the wheel. It looks for the highest paying / bet sector and tries to drop the ball in the opposite side of the wheel. You might notice that the slot boundaries are taller than the new real dealer wheels you see these days. They trap a ball with less scatter.
     
  17. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    You're so full of shit. That's not in the patent papers. Yes the wheels speed up and slow down, but it doesn't say that it's to avoid any bets. LOL!!!
     
  18. gizmotron

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    OK sknowshit, tell us all how it can be sold as a settable payout machine.
     
  19. RouletteGhost

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    so at resorts world the airball wheels have big boards that show where everyones bets are

    and that place is always packed with mutants, i cringe driving their from long island

    so if i go, and bet the opposite of everyone else i should win?
     
  20. gizmotron

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    Have you noticed how they don't scatter as much?
     

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