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Roulette American Zumma book

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 30, 2018.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    Some time ago a forum poster was nice enough to send me this book in Excel

    Since then I got a new computer because my old one died

    Anyone have this book?
     
  2. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    any kind soul want to send me a copy
     
  3. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Geez, I tossed that in the trash years ago. There is NO PROOF its from an actual casino(s), correct?

    Ken
     
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  4. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    if it isnt real then the author spent a lot of time fudging it lol
     
  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    So? He throws a bunch of random.org numbers together and makes a killing selling it. I kinda admire the guy.

    Ken
     
  6. RouletteGhost

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    whatever the case is i used it to get pretty damn close to never lose methods

    was just wondering if anyone wanted to take the 30 seconds to attach it to an email and send it to me

    my old computer got a bad virus from mining crypto currencies and i cant turn it on the malicious virus that got a hold of that PC has info of mine cant risk it
     
  7. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    The other thing I dont like....(dont be mad at me), I dont like testing where you can SEE the numbers ahead of time. As The General says, it sometimes leads to curve fitting, which I agree with. You see some future numbers and decide, I'll STOP NOW.

    Hey look, holy grail, holy grail !!!!

    Ken
     

  8. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    i try not to curve fit

    how i use past spins is i make a method

    if it does not hold up properly i scrap it

    i liked zumma because it laid out dozens and columns as well
     
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    I have no problem if a guy says, I would STOP here after curve fitting. The issue I have, then *ALL* past results are null & void and you must accumulate your stats fresh. 80 sessions later......I "would of" stopped here, its a WINNER!!!

    Okay, once again, scrap all past results and start over FRESH again. etc.

    Ken
     
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    just going to say, i do not think notto curve fitted

    i think it was lack of caleb and yourself reading the whole thread lol
     
  11. gizmotron

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    Geez, you guys want an authentic, truly random wheel? I wouldn't even sell it. I will randomize all the physics of a mathematically random wheel. I'd share all the perimeters and code too. You would have a once and for all live wheel on your computer to test systems with.
     
  12. mr j

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    Just sayin, anytime a rule change takes place in the method OR "I would of stopped here" (curve fitting) situation happens.....thats cool but ALL past stats now mean NOTHING!!! Ignatus also did/does this.

    Ken
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I either test at Celtic or I do it live at my casino here in town. Is it fast? No but I dont mind. I learn a TON while testing. You notice things you may of missed before.

    Ken
     
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    You are right. There is no substitute for live play. It's practice with consequences.
     
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  15. lemonade

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    Make sure you generate about 10 million spins so we can do a valid test. The 1000-2000 that Zumma has are meaningless.
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I agree.
     
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    It was going to be a live wheel for pseudo-live practice. You click "Spin" once, you get a real random spin result. Sounds like you guys want a line delimited, or comma delimited list of millions of spins.

    So I have to ask. How do you guys use these lists?

    I've done tests of over 100 million spins. And that was just a single test to avoid the single zero.
     
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  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Anyone know the diameter of the ball track on a Roulette wheel?
     
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    Around 30 inches?
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I got out a measuring tape. It looks like 24 to 26 inches?
     

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