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Sports Betting Arbitrage betting

Discussion in 'Sports Betting Forum | Sportsbook Forum' started by hotjohnnn, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. hotjohnnn

    hotjohnnn Member

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    Hi, is there anyone here make a living out of arbitrage/sure betting?
    I live in UK without having access in Pinnaclesports and i believe without this book it s kind of impossible because sooner or later our accounts will get limited by the soft bookies.
     
  2. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Try Smarkets, Betfair, Matchbook, Betdaq - they are exchanges and don't close accounts and allow winners.
    If you don't can access them you can use a Betfair clone or use a broker to access several exchanges for a monthly fee.
    If I remember correctly they also offer pinnacle.

    I would recommend trading in-play to get the edge.

    Search for Sport'Trading'Life on youtube
    I purchase almost everything he has for sale and never look back and never regret it.
    My opinion is among the best material you can lay your hands on.
    Goal'Profits is another.

    Also, use some diversification and try to build a tipster portfolio.

    Cheers
     
  3. hotjohnnn

    hotjohnnn Member

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    I appreciate your reply, i didn t want to trade to be honest because there is no sure thing about it.
    Of course i have all these exchanges(thanks for the info) because if you are profitable soft bookmakers will limit your accounts.
    Unfortunately i do not have access on Pinnacle and as far as i know there is no broker in my country to give me access.
    I will check what you say about sport trading life but do you get the edge betting on calls like VAR in football?
    I m not a supporter to buy material and become a winner also to build a tipster portfolio for what?
    Selling the tips?
     
  4. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    We don't have to agree on anything - but I know I have seen an advertisement about sure bets when searching for Asian Connect.
    They work as brokers and give you access to sites that allow sure bettors.

    Here can you open a pinnacle account - is not free - you need to pay a monthly fee.
    They work as a broker and give access to pinnacle among others.

    acc-ex dot com

    No matter where you live ...

    Cheers
     
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  5. hotjohnnn

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    You didn t answer to all of my questions, that s fine.
    I checked this website and looks kind of scam to be honest.
    They say that they open accounts under their name and they give you access.
    So you have to trust these people not to scam you lol.
     
  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well, it's up to you to find ways to achieve sure betting.
    I have used their service, no problems.
    There was Asian Connect who recommend them.
    When they could not offer Matchbook

    Good Luck with your sure betting.

    Cheers
     
  7. Davidjamson

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    If You Are Looking For A Good And Safe Prediction Site Then Visit Here And Take Advice!
    Its really amazing
     

  8. 6th-sense

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    rebel betting was better...yep accounts do get limited...thats when you start off with friends and family using there id,s..oddstorm comes to mind...theres a few...

    my son in law use to make 100.000 a year through arbritage betting....and gave webinars ...he,s moved on from that.....



    Asian Connect was the recommended broker by him if needed.....
     
  9. redietz

    redietz Well-Known Member

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    Actually, the main problems with arbitrage betting are that you need to scatter significant amounts of money among a dozen or so sites. So to make reasonable money and be able to take a crack at all opportunities, you should have 50K or more at each of the sites. That is obviously unworkable for most people as it requires laying out half a million dollars and having complete faith in being able to withdraw any and all monies from each of the books.

    In addition, you've got to be able to pull the trigger in real time while the arbitrage is available, which is infinitely more difficult than 20 years ago.

    And in addition to that, the fine print in many offshore book contracts is that you're not allowed to use an automated system to place the bets for you. Or they can legally freeze your money.

    The same kind of systems have been outlawed at many of the "auction" sites for selling regular goods.

    Other than that, it's a great plan. Yes, Sheldon, that was sarcasm.

    I knew the guy who started the arbitrage in sports back in the '80's, before most people had Windows. His name was Larry Fletcher, AKA "Southern Comfort," based in Florida. He was decades ahead of his time with monitoring programs and arbitrage betting. The only reason I report his real name is that he passed away a while back.
     
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  10. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There are similar ways that are hybrid between sure bets and regular betting.
    It also requires a couple of different betting sites.

    I have considered using the myself.
    Having Smarkets & Betfair legally.
    And get Betdaq and Matchbook for a 50 Euro fee each month and a VPN fee.

    See attached image for the test and review Merlin.png .
     
  11. redietz

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    Betfair has a reputation for not tolerating anything close to winning. They were forced to make public their horse racing bettor outcomes a decade or so ago, and the number of people making six digits any given year was less than 20. Given the hundreds of thousands of Betfair accounts, the numbers were striking. So I would not count on Betfair tolerating much of anything for long.
     
  12. Sputnik

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    You are free to have your personal opinion about Betfair.
    I know traders who make 6-figures on Betfair.

    But is up to each individual to search for information and decide what is what.

    Cheers
     
  13. hotjohnnn

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    Rebel betting is expensive so is oddstorm, but if i had access on Pinnacle i would probably use them but from UK i can t.
    Asian Connect is correct the best broker at least it was but they do not accept UK customers anymore cause of BREXIT i guess.
     
  14. hotjohnnn

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    50k or more in each bookmaker s website to do what exactly?
    You can t bet this amount of money in a match except if you bet in Pinncle sports.
    Even in exchanges sometimes you can t bet more than 1k especially in lower leagues.
    If he did that back in 80 s then yes he was very ahead and he was probably wealthy.
     

  15. redietz

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    To be able to jump on arbitrage opportunities for 2K or more a side when the opportunities pop. If you don't have enough in each account to handle a dozen or more wagers, then what are you going to do? Yank and transfer money around to fit whatever is available any given day? By the time you get your accounts squared with where you need money when, the arbitrage is gone.

    If you're just betting a few hundred or 1K a side, then that's fine, but you're making lunch and dinner money. That's recreational betting. Nothing wrong with that, but there's no tale of riches at the end of the rainbow doing that. More power to you, and I do it myself on occasion, but it doesn't fit this fable of making significant amounts of money. I always take a free lunch, but I don't mistake free lunches for round the world cruises, is what I'm saying.
     
  16. redietz

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    It's become fashionable and ubiquitous for people to promote this idea that sports book arbitrage is a magic formula. It's not. If you can plop a half million in various books, the books themselves are betting they can do more with your money investment-wise than you can betting it.
     
  17. hotjohnnn

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    Sure but realistically you can t make big money for long time betting on soft bookies.
    I got banned from 8 bookies in a month just making lunch money.
    Imagine if you try to make much more than that.
    It s not possible except if you have access in Pinnacle sports as i said above.
    And even if you have you still need a few soft bookies to close the second side of the bet.
    So what you say is not realistic and not possible in real life nowadays.
     

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