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To Gizmo: Nice video...LoL...now I'm more than sure not to do any Marty ever again hhh.....and continue with the Parlay...

 

I never really wanted you to give up Baccarat for Roulette. I just wanted you to know that I'm watching 6 data streams of Even Chance bets all at once. This changes the amount of time that I can stay in a session, that's all. I'm still interested in your approaches to dealing with the chimp and your interests in what you would like to accomplish from playing Baccarat as a business choice. You still must have your ideas about trends and patterns and how to use them.

 

Lungyeh. I dont mind. Still follow your sharing in this thread. Thanks

 

L-Ym


Sir, I do not think that should give any kind of bankroll suggestion to any player. That is an individual responsibility .

ND

 

Thank you.

 

Query, if cats wanna trend/guess buckin up against the "random" outcome then why not just flip the coin, instead, hey hey?

 

Flip the coin, take a wild guess whatever, here we are saying ‘dont give a poop your bet selection’ the winning decider is MM.

Flip a coin and bet. You win if you are in a Hot Phase. You lose when you are in the Shar Chi Phase. Win some lose some when you are in the Neutral Phase. Bet accordingly.

 

Lungyeh,

So far i dont have HPB. So i just play HPB = UB. Because still cannot sure when is hot phase streak. Maybe because i am not expert gambler.

Btw you already share your MM. How about your preference shoe to play. Wait 10 hand, or middle shoe i think ?

If yes, can you post your playing shoe ? So we know when and where to bet. Still i know thats not guarented win. Just want to learn more

I know this thread about MM. If not suited, cannot wait your thread about it. Patience too wait. Thanks

 

It's been done.... LoL....to hear the scream of disbelief on 10:00

He's definitely in losing session... too pride to realize it because too confident with the previous win

 

Thanks Lungyeh for this very interesting topic and lot of good information. Please do continue.

Your bet selection is actually your MM.It is based on the fact that you win more when winning and loose less when loosing or walk away.

Bets are placede according to wins and losses L/W registry and what to do when it happens.

Being not a professional player myself it seems that rather a 50/50 approach MM/BETS SELECTION are better.

The best MM can not save a poor preforming bet selection because the funds will dry up .It will take longer but will.

Both work hand in hand.

The assumption is that there will be bigger winning best in sessions that cover loses ,but what will happen if they do not come?

Kind Regards

B

 

My bet selection is not my MM but based on ‘the trend is your friend’. For the life of me I cannot understand how one can bet when the patterns are totally random and the results are jumping here and there.

So I follow the trend. If it is in the Hot Phase, the trend will be distinct and I will win. If it is in the Shar Chi Phase, I will lose. If it is in the Neutral Phase, win some lose some. My control of the Chimp is that if I lose 3 out of the last 4 times, I will stop for at least 30-60 minutes. Walk around. Look see look see.

I am sure that anyone who has played enough baccarat will agree with me that there are times when whatever you bet, you will win. When you have 1 point, the casino draws a card to be baccarat (zero points). When they have 8 points, you have 9 points. When they stand on 7, you draw a third card to win on total 8. Hot Phase.

On the reverse, in the Shar Chi Phase, when you have 8 points, they have 9. When they have 2 points, you draw a card to total 1. Negative Martingale? You will cry your eyes out in a Shar Chi Phase.

There was this friendly old man, in his early 80s, still spritely. There was a time when there were already 5x Bankers. I betted on Banker to continue its streak. He came by and started to bet Player for a jump. Banker came out 14x!! I dont know how much he lost. He walked away glumly on the 12 th time.

OP, we can try to feel out the Hot Phase with the second bet. Remember we start with 1 unit. Second bet is 0.5 unit. If you lose, you still are winning 0.5 unit. And take it from there. Remember always to be at peace. When you are at peace, your mind works better and you can think clearer.

If before you place a bet, your heart is fluttering, you are not sure et cetera, you are not at peace. Dont bet then. Bcos the Chimp will be jumping out!!

 

I would prefer to bet from somewhere in the mid section of the shoe maybe from the @20th hand but depends on the trend right?

Like I gave the example of the shoe with a first hand result of Player followed by 50+ Bankers and some ties in between. Can you imagine if you have a hard and fast rule that you only start betting from @ 20th hand (because Lung Yeh said so and I stand j’accuse) at the 20th hand, there would have been @19-20 x Banker. If you had not caught the trend earlier, I dont think any sane person would jump in yes?

The beauty of the game, warts and all.

 

On Baccarat being a random game. Many mathematically inclined Baccarat players insist the game is totally random. I agree with some caveats. Because I am only so-so in Maths but I can analyse rather logically and present my points of view in a pleasantly readable format; drawing upon analogies along the way.

How many casinos do you think there are on this world? How many in the US, in Europe and in Asia? How many ships? Total 500? 1000? How many Baccarat tables are there per casino? In Asia, easily 50-100 tables per casino. Maybe 10-15 in the US. Lets say on average 20 tables per casino are in operations. So if you have 500 casinos with 20 tables per casino in operation at any one time, You have 10,000 results being played at any one time.

So I agree if there is someone who can tabulate the results of all these 10,000 games being played simultaneously, yes the results would be random.

But at one particular table where you happen to be at, there may be a distinct trend in the shoe being played. Who cares about the randomness of the other 9,999 shoes. If you happen to be at a table with a strong trend, God bless, DARE TO WIN!

 

I know what you mean maybe in mid shoe or maybe still in the beginning shoe. So when you feel the time is right for jump in ? Maybe when look 4 or 5 banker or player streak in a row ?

Example from 25 hand we already see past result in the chart. Mixed with chop, doublet and 3 streak in a row or maybe have 1 four streak in a row

So, when you catch dragon tail when come out ? When you see next 4 or 5 streak in a row ?

 

OP, I really do believe each individual’s bet selection methodology has its merits in each phase. I wish I can explain on the scorecard but it doesn’t tell the whole story.

Because in making a decision to bet, I am also influenced by trends in the sub charts. Big Eye, Small Road, Cockroach, Pearl even etc. So it’s difficult to explain after the fact bcos I dont spend the time and neither is there enough time to record the whys and wherefores.

At different times each sub chart could be dominating. Of course, for some they may think all these charts are baloney. But I like to think they are good guides during certain times.

Like I mentioned before, Elis and his group is or was selling a total of 6 systems, I think. And you are guided to identify which system is moat applicable during each shoe being played and apply that one. Thousands they charge. Some people think they work. He taught me one system and I promptly lost so it reinforces my lack of confidence in system sellers.

 

Haha...so I'm not the only one who observe the derived roads.... But I prefer a new shoes than jumping in the middle....

I felt jumping in the middle tend to make us rush with our bets and couldn't analyze it... especially when you only have 20 secs window between bet....

Maybe would be different at BM casino, but why rush? There will always be a new shoe...

Oh yeah one more thing, as an ex-system player jumping in the middle would make me have to chart the previous result...


It's troublesome...

 

Not sure how it would work with a table limits. For example, on a table with 50$ limit and my HPB is 100$. So after I won three straight: 100, 50, 100 and lost a 4th bet of 100, I'd have to drop to 10% of a last 100$ which would be 10$. How can I go around it taking a table limit into consideration?

Thx

 

The UB is the table minimum limit. I had suggested the HPB to be 8-10 times UB. So if it is 10 times, UB is 50 and HPB is 500 n dropping to 10% means going back to UB.

Perhaps it should be redrafted to revert to 10% of HPB or UB whichever is the higher. The gist of the theory is to reduce the bets when lost instead of staying at your lost bet level or even doing a negative Marty.

 

Thx! Guess it would work at a stadium Baccarat machine cause no way I am ready for 500$ HPB at a table. And what's your suggestion on how long I stay at that 10% bet? If I win ir right off the bat, I can revert back to HPB? Right?

 

If you feel good about it sure you can go back to HPB. Sometimes you encounter a difficult shoe and it may be conservative to wait awhile....