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Roulette Basic Repeater

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by ignatus, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. ignatus

    ignatus Member Founding Member

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    Merry Christmas to everyone! :)

    I would just like to know, what is the problem with this repeaters system? (if any) In your opinion?

    Procedure: Bet every hotnumber (numbers hit 2 times or more) that hits from the last 18 spins, in a progressive bet until 5 numbers bet (1+1+1+1+1 hotnumbers bet) WHEN 5 numbers are bet, start progression (stop & restart at any hit, with that single hotnumber Hit)

    Progression: (5 numbers negative)
    2 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 14 16 19 STOP =670u Total loss (1u bets)
    10 10 10 15 15 20 20 25 30 35 40 45 55 60 70 80 95 STOP (5u bets)

    (First test played with 5u bets) BasicRepeater_1.png
     
  2. HAL

    HAL New Member

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    What is you're strategy when you got the 6th hot number at spin 36 or sooner?
    At my casino you're 5u progression won't last 17 steps. Betselection is key!
     
  3. mr j

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    What I would love to do for you.....take you to my casino here. I will buy chips for you, my treat. Then watch you attempt to play.

    You only look at things ON PAPER. I use to do what you did, years ago. We had a casino here but no roulette (yet). I was creating all kinds of kick ass systems!! My BR was okay, not great. I ran into all kinds of CHIP issues, still do but I'm better now.

    Lots to do in only a few seconds. Our boards hold 12 numbers. So now I would need to keep track of the last 18 on a separate notebook. So I need 5 numbers. and if I dont have 5 with 2+ hits? Do I NOW track past the last 18? Early in ANY progression is easy, I admit that. After a few steps, all chip stacks have to be ready for the next couple of spins.

    While I'm doing this of course, continue tracking for the next session. I get deep into the progression, pit/floor sees this. They come over to ole' Kenny (or you) and start up a conversation. They need to see my card again, "it might be outdated". They ask about the big game tomorrow, who am I taking? Will I be staying for a meal afterwards today? All distractions.

    I wanted to use my nickels with some quarter chips, makes it easier. OOOPS! I was not paying attention, a guy before me was already using them. Had no time to cover all numbers. Ball spins and lands on one of the uncovered numbers. Oh well. Do you even know what I am talking about with this example?

    I'm getting low on chips and give the dealer a few blacks for more. "I'll get you next spin".....OOOPS! No chips again, my number hit. Get the chips earlier you say. Nope...."you have enough for now Ken". Players distracting you, knocking your played chips over (into a split) but you did not notice. It hits!! OOOPS! Now you get paid for a split. (lol)

    My point Ignatus...I read little of your systems because they do NOT relate to ACTUAL conditions of a casino. You are merely doing things on paper. You said yourself, you dont play, correct? I'm NOT insulting you sir. You remind me of....me, years back. You are a good guy. Not like goofball RouletteGhost or Turncoat Turner. You try but are not realistic. Even if you played your systems at HOME, with no issues....now you have to rely on, ON-LINE play. Either way, you are screwed. I said it before!!!!!!!!! >>>

    Focus on...no progressions but maybe up/winning, down/losing is fine, 2-4 numbers max, be *VERY* creative !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Remember, pretty much all (not every) idea has been created. You CANNOT simply say......bet all hot numbers in the last 18 spins.

    Nope, it wont work. Be creative as fuck!!! The whys, how longs, whens and for what purpose etc. You are too simplistic.

    Ken
     
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  4. ignatus

    ignatus Member Founding Member

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    Thanks Mr.J, i'll consider what you said,
     
  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Remember, if you eliminate all these things >>

    triggers
    progressions
    playing MANY numbers
    bots
    on-line
    due
    illegal computers (sales)
    rare patterns
    tracker
    etc. etc. etc.
    creating a decent method just got 300% tougher.

    Ken
     
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  6. ignatus

    ignatus Member Founding Member

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    Well, tried something with some success....(just for fun) i couldn't follow all your criterias, because it uses a trigger and a small progression;

    I call it "Lucky Love" 2-4 numbers bet.

    Procedure; Begin bet first number hits two neighbours. (2 numbers bet) NOW you do 18 spins,

    (1) IF any hit during these first 18 spins. Stop/Restart (with the current number hits 2 neighbours)
    (2) IF no hit AND any of the second two outmost neighbours hit,(within 18 spins) (within that particular sector of 5) The second unhit outmost neighbour is bet (Now 3 numbers bet) +1u bet and do 12 spins, then STOP.

    For and example ZERO hit, now you bet 26,32. Now Let's say number 3 hits, (outmost neighbours 3,15), so now you bet 26,32+number 15. AND +1u bet and do 12 spins, then Stop.

    (3) IF No hit within 18 spins The 2 outmost neighbours are also bet AND +1u bet and do 9 spins, then STOP.

    For and example ZERO hit, now you bet 26,32. (you get No hit within 18 spins) SO THEN you also bet the 2 outmost neighbours 2,15 (+26,32) (4 numbers bet) +1u bet and do 9 spins, then Stop.

    First tests played with 25u bets.
     

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  7. ignatus

    ignatus Member Founding Member

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    Test 3. (Played with 5u bets)

    BR Needed for playing with 5u bets 1000u.
     

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  8. ignatus

    ignatus Member Founding Member

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    Test 4.
     

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    Test 5-7.

    500u WINGOAL, seems to be a good idea.
     

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  10. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy New Member

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    Imo it's a mistake to set up a preordered betting plan, I prefer to study the outcomes' distribution of a specific wheel propelled by the same software.
    95% of the automated wheels working in the world are manufactured by the same brand, so we can easily compare a lot of different wheels outcomes knowing that the ball/rotor speeds are decided per every spin by the same algorithm.
    Since such machines are constantly monitored by an internal software to check and avoid possible malfunctions, we need to study certain intricate distribution of outcomes where the software can do anything other than computing the final probability of each number sorting out.

    Quite ironically, this is one more information we should need to take advantage of.

    For example, say we want to set up an even chance strategy on a double zero wheel choosing to split the outcomes in two separate categories, each with a 50% probability of appearing.
    That is a strategy dictating to bet 19 specific numbers vs 19 other numbers. Of course our EV will be -5.26% as we'll be payed 35 + 1 units vs a loss of 19 units.
    Thus we need to select the situations where something must happen more often than what a general probability dictates.

    To split the outcomes into two perfect equally probable categories we'll act like this:

    one category includes 19 different numbers that had hit one or more times (ct 1), the other includes the remaining numbers (ct 2).
    Whenever a number belonging to the ct 1 appears, we continue to register the results as above. Whenever a number belonging to ct 2 hits we register it, simultaneously canceling the first number of the list belonging to the ct 1 in order to get two new classes of "old" (ct 1) and "fresh" (ct 2) numbers.

    In a word we are registering the distribution of old (already hit) and fresh (silent) numbers into two vertical columns.
    No news, this kind of classification was attempted several years ago but with no avail.
    Yep, but automated wheels were not invented yet.

    Generally speaking, this even chance game can't be of any help for the player, unless the results itlr had demonstrated to be statistically significant different from expected binomial probability values.
    But never from an overall value point of view, carefully examined by the software, but by a humanly assessed distribution.

    The expected probability that each number will be hit per every spin is always 1/38, yet the probability to get either fresh numbers or repeaters in clusters is quite different whether a software is involved. Especially whether a large numbers of either category is considered.

    That means that we can expect a win within a reasonable interval of time either betting on repeaters or on fresh numbers, depending on the actual distributions of that specific wheel.

    Those conclusions came out from registering 37 different aut. machines, taking as sample control Bad Homburg and Wiesbaden live roulette results both easily obtainable in internet.

    Of course baccarat is still the best game to make money...

    Good Luck!
     

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