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Roulette Beat the online casinos

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by fazz, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. fazz

    fazz New Member

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    I have found an online casino game where you can predict what groups of numbers the ball will land on before the ball has spun. This system must be worth selling to online gamblers . I am not one . I have been given this information from a developer who worked on this game. .RNG roulette in this game is apparently not random . There is a pattern . Imagine there are 3 people standing equally around a table , and each person has 13 numbers each in front of them (1 overlap) i can predict the 13 numbers the ball will land on if it stops in their section.
    Do you think this would be of interest for gamblers who are serious about beating the system.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, not really. It's just my opinion here, but most people are not looking for a serious way to beat the casinos. Being a programmer, I'm aware that decades ago the random numbers generators were predictable. But now they have a reset to an unknown random seed value that makes them almost truly repeater-less. They don't start repeating for 500,000 spins if the seed is not reset anyway. Modern computer languages now reset the random seed value every time they restart the app. You might want to know how I know this. I read about inside cheaters and security risks. Funny how small the computer programming community is when it comes to trade secrets. Are you still thinking that this phishing expedition is worth it, Comrade?
     
  3. AxelWolf

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    Sure this would/could be valuable depending on the casino. It could EASILY be a rogue casino, and not only won't you get paid, you will also lose your deposit(Sure it would be worth the risk, because your deposit would only have to be the min amount and withing a short period of time one would be able to run their account up as high as they wanted to.

    Since this has what seems to be an easily predictable RNG situation, the chances it is a rouge casino is very high. Even if it's a legit casino and they figure out what you are doing you won't get paid.

    While this is not impossible, my first thoughts are that THIS IS SOME TYPE OF SCAM.
    The main reason I believe this is a scam, because if it were true, any NON-GAMBLING RETARD could see the enormous little to no risk value of this. Why would you sell it and not just play it, or have a friend or family member play and split the insane profits? Again, I don't care if you are a gambler or not, that's just retarded to use that as a reason not to just do it yourself. I'm not a gold minor, but if I'm out fishing in some creek and I see a bunch of gold settled at the bottom of the creek, I'm not going to pass up the gold and tell all the gold minors about it.

    So let's just say this is for real and the casino is Legit, how would this all go down? Would you first prove what you are saying before you ever received any money? (Prove this is real at a legit online casino and I will make you a fuck ton of money, assuming you keep your mouth shut)

    If I were to make a deal in a situation like this, I would want the information exclusively, you already have a strike against you for posting TMI about this publicly.

    If this were real, and if by some incredible circumstances you yourself couldn't play, nor did you know anyone who could, any normal person would do some research and find someone reputable, someone who is known to make deals and pay on their word, someone capable of taking advantage of something like this without killing it in the blink of an eye.

    IF this were real, the only way I believe this could work would be some deal with money in escrow and a 3rd party arbitrator involved. It would have to be a free roll percentage to the seller to help ensure longevity. No one in their right mind would pay you anything upfront, as it could end as soon as you received your money. And let's not forget there's a chance the casino will not pay you. People have a hard enough time getting paid on legit wins.

    I know there are some desperate people out there who are just looking for some easy money gambling opportunity's, I suggest you really do your due diligence before you ever put up a penny towards anything gambling related. Make sure you have indisputable proof upfront and make sure its a REAL online casino with a fair reputation.

    To the OP, you may not like my tone or what I had to say, but you really shouldn't be shocked and any skepticism, AAMOF, if you are legit you should welcome any skeptics. But, if this is legit and you want to have the best chance at making money off this, without somome fucking it up, then I can make that happen.
     
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    Couldn't have said it better!! As said the main thing is trust, if it were even true. So escrow would be the only option so there is no chance of it being a scam.
     
  5. Fossell

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    So, you're in then Ax? ;)
     
  6. Fossell

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    This doesn't make sense. Probably you've just mis-typed this. You mean you can predict which (13 number) section it will stop in. Not 'if' it stops in their section.

    But, Ax is right. If you knew this why on earth would you tell anyone. And nobody 'here' in their right mind would pay you the kind of money you're probably thinking about asking for before they've made that money testing the casino. You could 'in theory' make that money yourself playing it rather than trying to punt it out to others.

    'If you knew this', you wouldn't be 'that online gambler'. You'd put 1 euro/dollar/pound in from the start and be very happy within an hour.
    'If you sold or shared' this, that casino would shut down the game within an hour of seeing their statistics showing their house edge was tanking for some unknown reason.
     
  7. AxelWolf

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    Let's say I found this and for some odd reason no one I knew or myself could play it(let's pretend everyone I knew had been banned from this casino). There doesn't seem to be any cash upfront deal I could make, even if the guy I brought it to trusted me and knew I was telling the truth and even showed him records. For one, I'm going to want too much money upfront, because I know it's worth a significant amount when played right. The person I'm trying to make the deal with is going to worry something bad will happen and he's now just made a large investment that he may lose. We just are not going to be able to come up with a deal that both people are satisfied with.

    I have made deals with people on casino promotions in the past, but that usually because I know it wont last or there's a maximum one player can receive, so I will make more money if I make a deal with others. People have made deals with me because of the same reasons or because they simply can't afford to maximize it or they don't know how, or they don't know right people who can.

    I'm still bewildered as to why anyone would try to sell this particular situation if it's legit.
    I can see a few benefits to making a deal if you don't know what you are doing. But, not a cash upfront deal. I guarantee if this was legit you wouldn't have to post up an advertisement, especially with the details he gave. A simple post saying, I have a lucrative deal for any serious AP's interested, please contact me privately.

    I had something a few years back online that was worth around 150%+ It was not as simple as this roulette but it was a no brainer once you learned the method. You couldn't lose, I told only one person at the time(and my GF of course) It lasted for about 7 months. It was not just some mega free for all. There were limits as to how much you could make per week. You had to stay under the radar, avoid detectable patterns, you had to cash out funds then cash checks, make deposits etc. It was fun to play while it lasted and my heart broke the day I woke up and it had ended. I probably could have done better if I told a few more people and took half their action, but it was not worth the risk that it might end a lot sooner.
     

  8. Neal Pace

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    I'm too very wary of such systems. Like suggested above, why would anyone want to sell if it was legit? Personally, I just enjoy online casinos. I'm not using them to get mega rich, I suggest it's not the thing to do if you want that. The idea of landing a big jackpot however on the back of pure fun... that's the buzz for me.
     
  9. Bombus

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    I paid a programmer to build an rng for roulette that re-seeds every single spin. Consequentially it never loops.

    The only problem with it is that it slows down the integer generation somewhat, but that's only noticeable when you want to generate several thousand spins at a time. If you want to generate many, many thousands or even millions of spins then you need to go make a cup of tea. :) Sometimes slow and steady wins the race.
     
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