Roulette Beating Random by Betting Random

I am thoroughly convinced after many years of developing betting strategies, that the only hope of winning any game that has random results is by betting randomly. In the game of roulette, the best uncontested odds are the EC bets: Black-Red, Odd-Even, 1-18 or 19-36. The worst odds are the inside number bets; why would anybody even consider making inside bets when the odds are extremely against them right from the start. All of the strategies I have tested for inside betting amount to nothing more than but a bunch of voodoo, smoke and mirrors to say the least. However, I have heard from those that do make inside bets by selecting numbers randomly, show as good of results or better than those who use the more complicated inside betting strategies. Betting randomly does have its merits.

Try this EC roulette random betting strategy:

The key to betting randomly is in determining where to place your next bet. Do you just constantly guess or is there a systematic way to make a random bet selection? Yes, there is a way as will be explained later.

The Strategy:

The betting progression that you use is up to you based on the following:

1. A 7 step Martingale. If you use this progression, then it is imperative that each session must be played to a win of 50 units. I personally prefer this betting progression.

2. D’Alembert betting progression. If you use this progression, you have to predetermine the amount you desire to win per session and the amount your willing to lose per session.

3. Flat Betting. This is least dangerous way of betting but becomes quite a grind. Again, as with the D’Alembert progression, you have to predetermine the amount you desire to win per session and the amount your willing to lose per session.

4. Use any other betting progression you may prefer. However, the 3 suggested above have consistently shown the best results.

How to Play:

1. This strategy is to be played on a single zero European roulette wheel.

2. All bets will be placed on either Odd or Even.

3. Red or Black determines if you place your bet on either Odd or Even.

4. If the ball lands on Red, place your bet on Odd.

5. If the ball lands on Black, place your bet on Even.

6. If you loose a decision, follow your selected betting progression.

It’s that simple, give it a try and let me know your results.

There is also a strategy like this for Baccarat which I prefer over Roulette. No zeros to worry about. If interested, I will post instructions.

 

There's a term we use for that. It's called WAG or SWAG. Wild Assed Guessing or Systematic Wild Assed Guessing. Neither will work either!

 

Gosh, I am sorry to hear you had such bad results after trying this strategy. All strategies are WAG or SWAG strategies but some are better than others.

 

No. I do not use, nor have I tried any of that stupid BS. You'll find me only playing with an advantage, whether it's blackjack, poker games, machines, etc. You won't find me at a roulette table making stupid, -EV bets like you guys do.

None of those systems you describe work, end of story!

 

Contradicting you is a constant in the universe. There should be a law for it like the "law of thirds" or the "law of large numbers." Perhaps it should be known as the "against the law law."

You can take any bet selection method and get the three primary results from it. It will work real well at times, be flat without a domination, or it will work very badly at times. The secret to beating randomness is in dealing with these three primary conditions. Very bad conditions will kill just about all progressions. Really good conditions can put money in your pocket. The trick is to find the bet selections that are currently in a state of working really good. Just looking at one or two bet selection options is a sort of a self imposed impotence.

What's that line in that Kevin Costner film "American Flyers,"

 

Nothing new under the sun contradicting a posted suggested system .


ND

 

Yeah, especially when not even giving it a try.

 

i reading this forum a year now. i sign up today to post my thoughts.

am i the only one that sees the deep love affair with gizmotron and nathen detroit? too bad nathan is in new york and gizmotron west coast flying around in that RV. ROMAFL!

boy o boy the ones that post real stuff like jbs are hate bad by the likes of gizmortron and nathan (gizzys lover?) and that is a fact!

keep up the great work, fun to read while dunking the orea cookies in milk, ROMAFL!

 

Oh by the way, for your information, the WAG and SWAG strategies work much better than your strategy. Just exactly what is your strategy? Why don't you post it so we can be sure not to use it or try it.

 

I hate to sound like Sir Anyone, but in this case I have to ask the obvious and honest question....

What makes a Odd more likely than Even to appear after a Red ?
What makes a Even more likely than Odd to appear after a Black ?

I'm not trying to sound like one of the misfits that go after me for posting things, but
honestly there is no logic in this whatsoever, unless it's meant as a joke.
Finding an advantage in how the numbers appear in a random game is key - there is
no advantage here as either can appear equally after a Red or after a Black.

It's no different than saying "On Mondays, bet on Red", and "On Tuesdays, bet on Low"
It's nonsense - so please explain in more detail perhaps "why" this works for you.

Also, how do you justify this as "betting randomly" when you have a clear instruction
on when to bet and what to bet on based on the last result... that's not betting randomly.

 

blackjack 1010 warped mind a symptom of losing at the worst card game offered by the casinos .

 

Turbo found a 62% winning percentage for what should be a 50/50 bet https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/undeniable-proof-for-the-repeaters.16976/

Thats an astonishing find. All indications are that Turbo tested this stat/event longterm https://www.rouletteforum .cc/index.php?topic=17157.0

Developing a method for this event if 100% accurate is the way in my eyes.

Somethings to ponder



Perhaps you could start a private forum Turbo as I hate all the continual disagreements that lead nowhere to actually finding a winning method

 

Good question, and I would never consider you a misfit. First of all, the Red and Black appear on a random basis. Therefore using them as your bet selection is as random as it gets. It is not like your Monday, Tuesday example because those days always appear at the exact same time in the week. Nothing random about that at all. Secondly, the Red and Black are not used to determine if a bet should be placed on Red or Black but on Odd or Even. Furthermore, you can assign Red or Black to determine placing a bet on High or Low for that matter with the same results. But what is actually happening here is at some point in your betting progression you should get a hit because the odds are there. It all comes down to an educated guess that has about a 50/50 chance, and that educated guess is determined by the randomness of the Red and Black. I use a 7 step Martingale which gives me the odds of 128 to 1 that it will hit within 7 tries. There are no better odds than that anywhere in gambling, except to use a 10 step Martingale. The key to winning is having a strategy that wins a lot more times than it looses; in other words it has the potential of making up losses and keeping you ahead. Also, money management and units won or lost per session is just as important as the strategy its self.

You made the statement: "Finding an advantage of how the numbers appear in a random game is key." That is so true, however no strategy that exist or will ever exist will find an advantage over random results. To believe otherwise is moronic. But it is my firm belief that strategies can be developed that can keep you a little ahead of the game even with the periodic losses that are incurred.

Give the strategy a try for a while, after that your comments will be more meaningful.

 

I ran a quick test - just to compare this system over a control group -

Here are the results of a small 100 spin test (not enough spins really but for a simple even money bet it's almost enough)

Using this as described flat betting, it ended 100 spins at +3 units in a drawdown from +13 units
If I had just bet on Even every spin with no reason, it ended at +12 units and a high of +13 units (did better)
If I had just bet on Odd every spin, it ended at -16 units with a high of +5 units
The zero appeared twice.

So in this little test - the "control" range was -16 to +12 without any system, just staying on one even money bet.
The system's results landed at +3 units so "in the middle" basically.
If it ended "better" (for example +13) then it would have displayed better results than "random" which was just
betting on one spot every spin, but it fell in the middle which is perfectly normal.

Again, I don't see the connection between the two types of even money bets and why one would appear
more than the other based on the reds and blacks.
Will do a longer test though just to ensure proper results.

 

Okay then, now you're talking. I appreciate you giving it a try. As we all know, flat betting is your safest bet if you're just playing for fun, but it will never get you ahead because of the house edge. I believe the whole idea behind serious gambling is to make money. The real test would be using a 7 step Martingale to a win of 50 units per session with a starting bankroll of 384 units which allows for 3 busts before ruin. With flat betting, I do not think you could ever get ahead 50 units in a session before quitting. Maybe this strategy is not any better than just betting on Red with a 7 step Martingale. It may be that I have good results because of playing a session to a win of 50 units and a bankroll to cover three busts. So far, playing 22 Baccarat sessions with this strategy has yielded a 750 unit win with 3 busts. That amounts to 7.3 (50 unit wins) to each loss of less than 128 units. The losses give the devil his due (the house edge) but the rest is mine. Playing only 4 sessions of Roulette, I am up 300 units with no busts. I prefer Baccarat because of the better odds over Roulette. No zeros to screw things up.

 

There goes that ubiquitous belief again. You don't lose because of the house edge. You lose because of betting the same amount during bad timing and the occurrences of losing variance. I guess it is fun to have a losing streak? There must be a police force in your head that says you must lose more than you win. I get that you must lose more bet selections, because of the odds, but there is nothing making you lose the same amount of money when you do lose those extra few losses. The progression you are searching for is to bet the minimum during visible streaks of losses. These are the times that kill other progressions you are suggesting. You are actually suggesting betting more and even more, some times right into your own doom. Why not bet less and less during losing streaks? What are you afraid of? Use your brain to find a way to use a reversed progression during the worst time to bet big. You love progressions so why not figure one out?

I only bet big during win streaks. That's when it's fun to flat bet big. It's fun to win. It's highly entertaining. It's even more entertaining sitting at the tables and watching others bet big during losing streaks. It's fun to watch people use expectations that certain things must be due to happen. It's absolutely a blast to watch them blow their money. The faces that they make are classic. You are classic suggesting a 7 step Marti. You are fun to read. You stand up for your place in the gambling world. You suggest keeping the lights on at all the casinos. It's all fun.

Thanks

 

If David Gregory is happy....... so be it .

 

Thanks for the comments. I believe a few of us on this forum are on the same page of sharing ideas in hopes of finding a strategy that has some real merit. I actually listen to everyone's suggestion and give most of them a try. And of course, most all of them do not add much to what I have settled on so far. I have not tried your suggestion of betting smaller when in a losing mode and betting bigger during a winning mode. I'll give it a try.

 

Wrong, wrong, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!

The house edge is ultimately what WILL wipe you out.

 

You just don't get it, do you. It is not the house edge that wipes you out, it's stupidity.