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Baccarat Betting Flat: Quest for an Holy Grail?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Pray tell?
     
  2. treetopbuddy

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    I had so much hope for the Soxfan way O play. You dismissed as a loser therefore I must move on.
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Good choice.
     
  4. JacobBlaze

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    Good job Soxy..

    Nice, keep it up...

    Can you post the results for all your 2500 shoes in this format etc, if you have it ready to easily cut and paste..if.not it's OK.. thanks

    I played 3 live shoes banker only test and it.took about 2 hours total, I played alone in high limit table about $100 equivalent minimum..unlimited free hands , about 72 hands average per shoe..

    So if I commit to this it will Be about 6 to 9 shoes and 4 to 6 hours shifts a day ...
    One difference here is that I get 1.5% back commission on my turnover, turnover is defined as the # of losing bets...

    Total +10units Minus commission

    1.+1 11w/10L
    2 +7 15w/8L
    3 +2. 12w/10L

    28 losing bets
    28 x $100 is 2800

    2800 x 1.5% = $42 back commission

    38 winx$100 = $3800

    3800 * 5% banker commission =$190

    $3800 - $2800 is $1000 profit minus commission

    $1000 - $190 = $810 profit

    $810 + $42 back commission is $852

    Hopefully my calculations are right.... Anyway the point I'm making is that I almost received half unit in back commission, which should help fatten up my results as I too will have an average of 1 unit a shoe...

    And all.you princesses who.want to bash on this soxPuppet style, move on, I know me.and Soxfun are just in fantasyland kitchen testers... We waste.our time posting fantasy stuff because we are bored etc..etc.. I get you .. no need to waste forum digits bashing... etc
     
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  5. JacobBlaze

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    That's a +5 Soxy Cake
     
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  6. JacobBlaze

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    I wonder how many losses Sox has got in his 2700+ live online casino Run?

    Multiple that # of.losses by 1.5% and that's how much additional cake he could have here... Hope Soxy Coughs up the #s would be interesting how many total units it adds to his bottom line or adds.to his shoe average etc ..
     
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  7. JacobBlaze

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    Just finished 6 more shoes, requested fast dealer and played only 3 hours, so can get 2 shoes an hour...

    Selectively flat betting banker.

    Good start that I know isn't sustainable..but I'll be happy with 1 unit a shoe.

    Between 72 to 76 hands each shoe

    1.+1, 11w/10L
    2 +7 15w/8L
    3 +2. 12w/10L
    4.-2, 9w/11L
    5 +6 13w/7L
    6 -3. 8w/11L
    7.E, 11w/11L
    8 +5 12w/7L
    9 +1. 10w/9L

    +17 total before commission
    Playing about 20 hands a shoe
     
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  8. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    true dat. It's the singletons (chops) that are the nemesis of flat bet B. Cannot win without solving that puzzle.

    only two ways that happens using a fixed rule.

    So you two can now see if you come up with the same net wins with fixed rules as sox sample games.
     
  9. JacobBlaze

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    +17 units gets cut to +11.95 units take home cake by the comish, but add the refund for losses of +1.26, and makes this kitchen table test of +13.21 units or $1321.00

    Lost 5.05 units to the 5% commission (101 wins)

    Got refunded 1.26 units via the 84 losses
     
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  10. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you certainly should move on, hey hey.
     
  11. soxfan

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    I just put the loser, low-iq bulls-shits artist on iggy cuz their retardations makes my head hurt. Yer lucky to play in a joint what givea ya a refund on some tax pay as that makes a winnings style even more profitable, hey hey.
     
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  12. JacobBlaze

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    1.+1, 11w/10L
    2 +7 15w/8L
    3 +2. 12w/10L
    4.-2, 9w/11L
    5 +6 13w/7L
    6 -3. 8w/11L
    7.E, 11w/11L
    8 +5 12w/7L
    9 +1. 10w/9L
    10 +2. 12w/10L
    11. -7 8w/15l
    12 -2 9w/11L
    13 +7 14w/7L
    14 Even 11W/11L
    15 -5. 8W/13L

    Put 6 more shoes in the book, was even Until last shoe, lost 9 in a row that shoe... Took about 3 hours 15 mind...




    At +12 now before commission thru 15 shoes..
     
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  13. soxfan

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    Still grindin strong, and include result from shoes# 2787-2819 inclusive, hey hey.

    -.4
    -2.4
    -3.4
    -6.2
    +4.55
    -7.2
    +18.25
    -4.35
    +1.6
    +8.35
    -1.3
    +3.5
    -5.2
    -6.3
    -3.25
    +2.45
    -1.35
    +4.45
    +16.2
    +7.35
    +1.4
    -.4
    -1.4
    +5.55
    +.5
    -.35
    +2.5
    +.55
    -1.35
    +6.5
    +1.5
    -2.35
    -11.2
     
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  14. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Eeeeek! And that was a good batch!
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    story time at GF.
     
  16. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I miss the talls-tale so hope that the spike and the limey make the comes-back, hey hey.
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    what are the repeating probabilities of your bet selection ?Thats what matters .
     
  18. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Query, what do you mean by the "repeating probabilities", hey hey????
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Keeping in mind the principle of Barstows principle of diminishing probabilities of repeating patterns of EC.
     
  20. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    The bankers advantaged is there, rocks-solid, certain to pop over time, and that's why fixed, objective bets selection style are the only viable style, hey hey.
     

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