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Craps Beware of Canadian Casino Caesars Windsor, ontario, canada .......

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Casino Review, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. Casino Review

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    Beware of Canadian Casino Caesars Windsor, Ontario, Canda is committing fraud at table games and cheating is very common. They will rob you blind before you know it. They will make you win some and then fraud you big time.

    Caesars Windsor committing fraud using remote control dice at Craps table and other table games.
     
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    Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario and Ontario Provincial Police are part of fraud in Ontario Casinos. I am looking for lawyers to file Class action lawsuit against Caesars Casinos for fraud at the table games.
     
  3. Boz

    Boz Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    HA HA HA. No lawyer would ever take your case without payment up front. You really think a public company is going to spend hundreds of millions on licenses and building to CHEAT at a game they win at everyday?

    You sound like another sore loser who thought he could "control" the dice. And if your right and can prove it, you don't a Class Action Suit, you can file the suit and become famous.

    PS: If the dice are fixed to go against where the most money is bet, BET the other side and you will also make a fortune. Good luck!
     
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    As most players, you do not seem to understand the fraud. They use remote control device to control the device. There is no bet is SAFE. They decide the exact outcome based on their interest.
     
  5. Boz

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    And all you have to do is calculate the bets on the table and bet AGAINST the majority. It's not that hard, grind away and you will be rich.

    But keep believing your theory. Only a idiot would post it online and give away the opportunity to prove the casinos are cheating. You gave away the keys to the kingdom. Great job!
     
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    I agree with you I am an idiot and looser. I do not want any body else with the same fate as me.

    You sound like work for Casino or new player.
     
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    Casino Review - Although I disagree with you on how Caesars Casinos are cheating, I do agree that they are cheating .... I had several discussions with one of the largest law firms in the world - Norton Rose Fulbright of Los Angeles .... we calculated that a conservative amount that the casinos just in Las Vegas were cheating patrons at craps tables at over $200 million

    After presenting the case at their partner meeting in LA, they declined to take the case for 2 reasons:
    - they would have to front the costs for expert witnesses estimated at $100,000.
    - Caesars is one of their firms clients, so they would have to fire themselves to avoid a conflict of interest problem
     
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    Casino Review - I do agree with you that the Gaming Commissions are part of the fraud - if you are interested in another case that proves such, consider reading this thread and the links provided:

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/gaming-commission-comedy-of-errors-….1919/
     
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    Thank you very much for the great reference, not many people can detect the remote control dice. I personally can tell.

    We must do every possible to inform the public most importantly for those who are not familiar with the technology like Senior Citizens. These casino bosses in suits are number one thieves and have no soul, they will rob their retirement saving.
     
  10. Boz

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    Overall posts counts are down on the site so the end is coming. Add in the arrival of the Dice Control/ Dice Influence crowd and the guys selling winning Roulette systems and it's all over.

    The site probably never had a shot being based on a lie to get members from the start.

    But like the scammers on here, at least the owners tried.
     
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    We're not going anywhere even if we have zero posts for an entire year.

    They haven't arrived, they've been here from the early days. You are clearly completely unfamiliar with and uninformed about our community.

    What was the lie? Be specific. Don't just throw out empty accusations and don't hide behind unspecific (false) accusations. Let us dissect your argument, if you have one, because we haven't lied to anyone and you won't be able to show any proof that we did since there isn't any. So it's time to put you on the spot again. You have already falsely accused us of allowing Child Pornography here without any evidence, you accused another member of being a scammer once again without providing any evidence, and now you are spreading more false accusations about how we "lied" to get members. You have zero credibility.

    You have a clear agenda to limit the free speech of others and their freedom to discuss any gambling-related topic in our uncensored environment. If you were scammed in the past and you feel like taking it out on someone and have chosen us for whatever reason, then at least have the decency to stick to facts instead of making up lies.

    Now go ahead and point to our lies and prove your other false accusations. We will be waiting.
     
  12. Boz

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    World's greatest gambling minds? Need I say more? How many actually post here?

    Also how many people have EVER won your drawings? I will admit I never read the rules so I'm sure you have it hidden in small print how often you pick a winner.

    No agenda, just not a fan of people allowing obvious scammers to push their products. If you don't think they are, you are blind. Many of them simply post to email them for more info. I do believe you are smart enough to see these guys for what they are. Like I said, you have to sleep at night with it, not me. But the next step is always only one financial shortfall away once you open the door. Justifying anything comes easy to some. You have people who are convicted felons selling computers that are Illegal in casinos. So your illegal justification is gone already. Look at the stock scammers posting from 3rd world countries. No proof, but I'm betting they aren't choirboys.

    Hey we all love money, the difference is some are willing to work for it and others look for shortcuts.

    Maybe I'll win $1500 for this post!
     
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    We get it the message loud and clear, you work for the CASINO and does not want "cat out of the bag".
     
  14. Boz

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    Again, nothing further from the truth. You are obviously way out there if you really believe they are cheating at dice. As I told you, I live to find something like that because you should be Profiting from it instead of complaining. It's not that hard.
     
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    Time to put you on the spot again:
    • Tom McEvoy, World Poker Champion and Hall of Famer
    • Mike Caro, the world’s foremost authority on Poker Strategy, Psychology, and Statistics, and noted Gambling authority, Industry Consultant and Spokesperson, respected Odds Maker on current events and politics, and author of 10 books
    • Nathanial Tilton, member of the MIT Blackjack Team
    • Steve Bourie, the authority on American Casinos with knowledge of 700 casinos in 38 states and author of the American Casino Guide
    • Frank Scoblete, author who has written both under his own name and King Scobe about casino gambling, referred to by the Washington Post as "a widely published authority on casino games," his books include "Beat the Craps out of the Casinos", "Golden Touch Blackjack Revolution", and "Beat the One-Armed Bandits", and he has written and appeared in television documentaries such as the "What Would You Do If ...?" program on The Travel Channel, written numerous columns for gambling magazines and websites, and produced a series of videotapes and DVDs, with most of his work being about the games of craps and blackjack.
    • Catalin Barboianu, an expert Gaming Mathematician from Romania with a Masters Degree in Probability Theory and a PhD in Mathematical Models who specializes in the Psychology of Problem Gambling,
    • Michael Dalton, gambling author, publisher and founder of the Blackjack Review Network, best known for his Encyclopedia of Casino Twenty-One (formerly titled Blackjack: A Professional Reference) and Blackjack Review Magazine, which was published from 1992 through 1998, and a recipient of the NASA Exceptional Achievement Medal.
    • Norbert Henze, a leading Professor from the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany and foremost expert in Lottery Statistics, author of "How to Win more: Strategies of increasing a Lottery Win".
    • Ed Packel, author of "The Mathematics of Games and Gambling", an Emeritus Professor of Lake Forest College and expert in Game Theory and Gambling Mathematics with a PhD from MIT
    • Dan Paymar, a video poker expert with a background in computer programming and engineering, author of "Video Poker - Optimum Play", and author of "The Professional Poker Dealer's Handbook".
    • Linda Johnson, Poker Hall of Famer, known as "The First Lady of Poker", co-founder of the Tournament Directors Association, and publisher of Card Player magazine.
    Those are just a few of the Founding Members who've publicly introduced themselves. There are plenty more that have introduced themselves publicly, and even more that have not. Shall we continue, or have you embarrassed yourself enough?

    We never said any of them actively post here. We don't force members to post. Show us where we said they posted here. Again, be specific and back up what you say. You can't because we never said that. Just more lies you are telling while attempting to accuse others of lying. That makes you a certified hypocrite.

    Small print? It's literally in the opening segment, but of course, you wouldn't know that because you have no problem embarrassing yourself by regurgitating nonsense about matters you openly admit you haven't read or even looked into and therefore know nothing about. That right there says everything anyone needs to know about your credibility.

    Where are we allowing scammers to push their products? We aren't the judges of who is and who isn't a scammer and no one is allowed to sell any product or service via their posts (our Rule #2). This is more of your nonsense.

    As for an agenda, you clearly have one as you hold a serious grudge against us and this community for reasons that are still unclear to us. We aren't vague about our nature, we say "uncensored" right in our slogan on every page of our site, and yet you seem to have a problem when folks say something you don't approve of or that you assume is a scam as if your speech is more important than theirs. (Hint: it's not.)

    More nonsense. We aren't gamblers, let alone expert gamblers. Therefore, we aren't the arbiters of what is and is not a scam. That's for our experienced members to dissect and expose in our open community and we give them the full freedom to do so and actively encourage it.

    More nonsense. We actively remove e-mail addresses (particularly from opening posts) when we see them or they're reported to us, and no new member is allowed to Private Message other members.

    No, we don't gamble and it's not our area of expertise and we aren't going to research the background of every post and poster here. Our area of expertise is in running forum communities. An open and uncensored forum community means that scams and scammers will be naturally exposed by the membership. We simply provide the platform for that open discussion to take place.

    We sleep perfectly fine because unlike you, we don't fabricate lies.

    We don't determine who is a convicted felon or whether a computer is illegal in casinos. That is for our members to dissect and expose and we give them the freedom to do so and actively encourage it precisely so that scammers can be weeded out and actual productive and successful gambling experts and tools can be distinguished. What we don't allow is anyone to sell any product or service in their posts, so saying we have people selling computers here is just more of your nonsense. The member in question was defending themselves after being attacked by another member. They weren't selling here because that's not allowed here (again, Rule #2).

    What illegal justification? The member you are talking about was defending himself after being accused by another member of being a scammer. He didn't join to peddle his products or services and he couldn't if he wanted to because, as we already explained above, our Rule #2 prohibits members from selling any products or services in their posts. More nonsense from you.

    Do you mean the one that is a Forex platform posting about their company news, not a stock picker, and that you called a "scam" without evidence even though they are partnered with Liverpool Football Club, one of the most famous soccer clubs in the world with half a billion dollars in annual revenues? Do you honestly mean to tell us that you know more about a company's background than a half-billion-dollar-a-year business that partnered with them, or that one of the most famous soccer clubs in the words partnered with scammers? More nonsense from you.

    Now we understand your agenda. It's founded on envy. You seek to damage and defame us and what we have created here because you are envious that folks without a background in gambling like you managed to create a gambling community with some of the most famous gambling experts in the world as Founding Members. You have absolutely no idea the sheer amount of hard work it took us to bring together the level of talent that comprises a large portion of the Founding Members of this community being ourselves outsiders to the gambling industry. You also clearly have never run a Forum community or site of any kind if you think it's not hard work. Just more of your nonsense.

    You very well could, but you wouldn't know that because you haven't read the rules about our $5,000 Giveaway. You just assume everyone online is a scammer and act like a prankster yelling "Fire!" at a crowded theater without any evidence.

    You speak utter nonsense about matters you know absolutely nothing about. It is impossible to take anything you say seriously as you have zero credibility since you make unfounded false accusations, don't backup anything you say, regurgitate absolute lies, and don't even admit you are wrong when you are clearly proven to be a liar.

    So from here on out, any post where you defame us will be responded to with a simple link taking the reader to this post where we dissect above all the false accusations and utter nonsense you regurgitate without backing it up. We won't continue to entertain your nonsense as we do not care for it nor do we have the time for it, so we'll just show our readers how your words are meaningless and simply cannot be trusted since you have no shame in lying.
     
  16. Boz

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    Obviously you had the time to answer each point in a biased, though expected way. You have a vested interest in making this place work and I get it. I will not go over each point because I see no benefit, but I will hit a few that may help you IF you open your eyes.

    If you think there is any Envy involved, you have no clue. But I wouldn't expect you do.

    I would think you might want to check why most of the names you list do not post here. You will get a wake up call and many of the reasons are the same as I am presenting. If they don't post, they are useless to you unless you use their names to promote the site. Again, why not take the time to check with some of them and see what they think about this site. EYE OPENER to a legitimate business owner.

    You have 7 different threads posted on today. The growth will not be there until you clean the place up.

    On your Forex/ Liverpool example....you have a poster who really thinks Caesars, a multi Billion dollar company is cheating craps players with remote control dice? Oh wait, the posters can decide.

    I get it, you know nothing about gambling, but have a business plan that did get some name gamblers to join. Credit for that, now lets see you find a way to profit from it.

    As for me it's seems like any posting is helping you by increasing numbers and I have no interest in helping people with your ethics.

    Best wishes, I think most of us can see where this is ending. It will be interesting to see if I am proven wrong. I wouldn't bet on it.
     
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    When is the last time you have played CRAPS at Caesars Windsor, Canada?

    Let alone When is the last time you have played CRAPS at any Casino?

    I am reporting this based on my personal experience at Caesars Windsor, Canada.
     
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    Facts aren't biased, they're as unbiased as anything gets. We link, support, and back up everything we say with facts. We understand that concept is foreign to you since you are clearly accustomed to making completely unfounded assertions that you never backup.

    And you have a vested interest in seeing our community fail.

    No, you won't go over each point because you have no counter-points to make since you lie and can't back up anything you say. If you'd be able to back up your false accusations, you would address each point. You won't because you can't.

    Nothing else explains your incessant false accusations about us other than sheer envy. You don't know us and we have no clue who you are, so it can't be anything personal. We never attacked you or sanctioned you here before, so it can't be petty revenge. Nothing suggests you run a competing community, so you can't be competition. Your quip about "hard work" made it clear to us. You envy our business because it makes you realize that if outsiders could do it, then you -- an insider -- could easily have done it, and that bothers you. Occam's razor.

    You are showing your ignorance once again. You have zero clue about the history of this community. We were originally an invite-only community and we opened our site to the public precisely because the Founding Members weren't generating enough activity to sustain the discussions and community. This isn't surprising when you consider that the top Founding Members are very famous and therefore busy individuals who simply do not have the time to volunteer to help sustain a new community. Furthermore, our original invite-only nature made us more attractive to the Founding Members due to the exclusivity. Part of that attraction was lost when we opened up to the public and allowed members such as yourself to join. We had no choice but to open to the public because there was very little sustained activity when we were invite-only. After we opened up to the public, our activity and member base grew, so we do not regret that decision. We also understand that that may make our site less appealing to the more famous Founding Members, but we were attempting to break through the "chicken-or-egg" problem every new site faces and had little choice but to open up. So once again, you got it completely wrong.

    Our independent, comprehensive, and uncensored nature is our main differentiator and unique selling proposition, so no, we do not intend to become more like other gambling communities or emulating them by "cleaning the place up" (e.g. censoring) because if we did, there would be no reason for new members to join us. The vast majority of gamblers in the world do not know we exists. That presents a very attractive opportunity for us if we ever decide to advertise because we know our open and inclusive gambling community will be a breath of fresh air to gamblers all over the world.

    Notice how you didn't address this at all because you have no counter-point since you were completely wrong again.

    And you did not prove them wrong. You just said they're "wrong". Anyone can talk the talk, but only serious members walk the walk and back up what they say. You aren't a serious member, you're just here to stir up trouble and attempt to make us fail due to your envy.

    We have no immediate needs or plans to earn revenue in the next few years. We're playing the long-game. We don't need the money so we have no problem not seeing revenue let alone profits for years while we course-correct our way to critical mass.

    You just said above our numbers were going down, and now you are claiming you are increasing our numbers. Again, nothing you say can be taken seriously. You have zero credibility and zero ethics since you have zero shame in outright lying and doubling-down on your lies in the face of contrary facts.

    Communities are cumulative. They only grow in membership, threads, and posts. We have only one way to go and that's up. The only way we fail is if we close down the community and that's never going to happen. It will indeed be very interesting to prove you wrong.
     
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    Casino Review,

    "REMOTE CONTROL DICE" ?????????????????????? If you are so convinced why no detail about how this is being done. Does the box man use tele kenisis? I'm a retired engineer and can't think of a way that this could be done the way you are describing. So if you haven't recently escaped from a rubber room how about enough detail concerning your claim that a logical reasonable person can make sense out of what you are claiming.

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