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Baccarat Borrowing money losing it gambling and then ignoring the person tell me what you think

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by John Blerg, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. John Blerg

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    Here's the thing. I knew this guy who gambled for a long time although I never gambled with him, I know others that did and he spoke a lot on a few of the message boards. He borrows a total of $6,000 from another message board member in another country with promises to make money. All the while the one that borrowed the money claims he's a form of Professor or say a Wizard, without actually using those words, but that's what he implies all the time.

    I kind of admired him but I've never subscribed to his way of gambling, although I'm not a heavy Gambler myself so maybe that's why. But I also know the person he borrowed it from and although he's remained basically quiet about it, it's really hurt him in many ways.

    However the person that borrowed this money that never paid it back, claims he lost it but still goes on almost every day being the Wizard or Professor he is at heart. although I can't say he's conned anybody else he portrays himself as being the best there is.

    But then he picks on many other people as though he's the police or a federal Marshal of some type and my assumption is he doesn't have a pot to piss in. which of course like I said is an assumption. What do you think of somebody that borrowed 6,000.00 with the promise to pay it back no matter if he won or not and then admits that it was wrong of him to do that and goes on with his daily preaching about how great he is and how bad most of the other people are gambling?

    Oh I forgot I'm sorry, he also attempts to discredit some other people for whatever reason and I can only assume in case they ever come forward and say anything about him? I assume like the criminal saying that the police stole the money that was already illegal in the first place?
     
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  2. brokercny

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    That is usually done by a candidate of scumbag of the year! I personally would never lend money to a gambler unless the gambler was myself. I can only trust my own actions on the table.
     
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  3. John Blerg

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    I appreciate your comments thank you
     
  4. gizmotron

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    On this forum you can't erase posts that you don't like. I know you are that sick narcissistic, destroy all useless people that won't support your fantasy, those others that you need so badly to hold up your fake life, person. Do you have all my emails handed to you from your sorry sycophant? Glen has my contact information and knows a lot about this transaction that occurred. You not being Glen is like Mt Rushmore cracking a smile.

    So here are the details because I have all the transaction details that actually took place in the land of the real. It's too late to bring a law suit in civil court for these transgressions you so easily attempt to use. You will always be a miserable control freak. I'm so glad you are stuck trying to make a world work that you are blind to. You do know that almost everyone sees right through your three faced illusions.

    Here it is bozo:

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    1) when I proposed 50:50 profit sharing with you, that was an optimistic assumption that there would be no losses or I will be assuming the losses if we lose. And also the amount involved is smaller. In any case, my other proposals to some of the other forum guys was 70:30 (70% to me) with me assuming all losses and all expenses to bring them to Malaysia.

    Just to clarify in the event that we do progress to a bigger bankroll and playing in Malaysia.

    2) Also, let us agree on a period until end April to tally up and settle. No need to transfer profits and losses here and there in the meantime.

    3) if the profits gets huge , then we see how to do income tax reporting. US is very strict and I dont want to do anything wrong with this experiment.

    Please be guided accordingly. God bless.
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    This guy offered me money. I never went looking for him and asked him to give it. I have every email and PM that started it all too. Apparently he did this to others too.


    Did you read that part of the agreement? "with me assuming all losses and all expenses."

    Did you get all my emails from him you conniving SOB.

    Now do your stupid disappearing act Glen. Go enjoy the total disintegration of your misguided forum adventure.

    I have no problem guiding everyone around these forums just to prove who you really are.
     
  5. gizmotron

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    I have this one too Glen. I'm sure everyone is going to feel real bad for the poor guy:


    1) the other day's casino trip. That's a cool 1 million ringgit (@US$200k). Each chip is RM10,000. Red is cash chip. Orange is rolling chip. Its the same. I get rolling commission back at 1% of my bet turnover.

    2) In my life so far, I have 'invested' in many people. Made millionaires out of no less than 20. Lost millions in wrong bets on people as well. And got into trouble for over trusting and relying on people too. When you have too many investment projects, you tend to have helicopter views and often overlook the details.

    3) I love it when people I made a judgement on succeeds. I take no pleasure when they fail.

    4) I have made a few investments in American technology companies too. Had an American Vice President of Marketing. Also had an American Indian CEO. Another was a tech company where fellow investors were Microsoft and Intel and it went bust in the crash of 2008/2009 and I burnt US$2 million just on this company.

    5) I have slowed down my investment activities as I get older. I just sold my Thailand factories and warehouses and it is fortuitous timing as markets are crashing everywhere. Its just that as one gets older, everything slows. I am also getting more selective on the bigger bets as I cannot afford to make any more big mistakes with the children all grown up and I ride into the sunset.

    6) You, I just get a feeling that maybe I can make a good difference to your life. You have got it tough. Just make sure that when the good times come remember the tough times. And be cautious going forward. I dont have any terms and conditions that are onerous. If you feel you dont want to share anything on the forum, I am also ok with it. Just go out there and do well.

    7) I used to be a high roller in the Vegas casinos. Caesars, MGM and Sands. Lost a lot there during my more impulsive younger days. Its getting too far to travel there so these days I do my trips nearer home.

    8) I love baccarat and do believe its beatable. The odds are small. So are the odds for the futures traders and business entrepreneurs. Not too sure about Roulette. But thats your game. I have a feeling you will succeed. Like I said, remember the tough times and value the money when (not if! ) you make them.

    Be guided accordingly. God bless.
     
  6. John Blerg

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    I was not even referring to you. I was actually talking about somebody else that, I don't believe is on this board. But since you felt so compelled to confess, I just showed this to my step sister.

    And she said innocent people do not confess, only the guilty people do!

    I don't know if that's American or from Asia, but I'll tell you what I have to tend to agree with her. Again I was not even talking about you.n I hope you felt good and doing what you just did. You could have went to church.
     
  7. gizmotron

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    You will like this one Glen:

    One more important thing Mark. Whilst further money may be made available depending on circumstances, play with the US$2,000 as if it is all that you have available.

    This is so important so that you do not take unnecessary risk with the thinking that **** *** will send some more money. MM, your control of emotions, discipline, humility and patience is crucial ya.

    I hope and pray you will succeed. If you want something badly enough, the universe will conspire to make it happen - Paulo Coelho.
     

  8. John Blerg

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    And to recap, I just analyzed everything you wrote in a bunch of your writings on this board and either you lie about stealing somebody's money and you did win and you weaseled out of it or your writings are a little bit fictitious and you can apply what you teach????

    That of course is an assumption I admit it. So your story is you took somebody's money and you lost it, but yet you have all this knowledge and you teach others for money and you claim your students can't lose or don't lose? I don't know, I'm lost I'm sorry I better stick to ice cream.

    That's all I got to say, I got to go get some cherries for tomorrow morning I am out of them!

    Again I wasn't even talking about you bro.
     
  9. gizmotron

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    >>And she said innocent people do not confess, only the guilty people do! <<

    I don't feel guilty mister quick change artist. There is nothing to confess. It's troubling that you see this as a confession. It's just a deal that did not pan out for the investor. It's you, in your fake world, that sees it as a crime. Funny how living a fake life tends to do that. I'm so glad you are just a bit savvy shy of a full load. I can't wait for you to get sued in your boring restaurant. You can' avoid it. You can't see the trouble coming your way.
     
  10. gizmotron

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    Poor Glen. he has to live in his own skin.
     
  11. John Blerg

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    Here's the thing that I didn't want to say. Although the confessional was nice i guess, and rather than acting as a priest or minister I'll just leave it go at that.

    I purchased a baccarat system from a person for the amount of $700 and although I never seen them Gamble at the one Casino where I go, my sister decided to go to another casino the other night because a family member was having a birthday and she wanted to stop by and say hi. So I seen the guy I bought the system from that did not work for me of course and he's gambling and he lost money. So why did he lose money if he's selling the system and all these people are so honest just like the one above? They sell it but it doesn't work and then they come on the boards and they defend them self by telling everyone else how guilty the other members are and how the other people's lives are such a piece of s*** and how the other people are such a piece of s*** and everything along those lines. And meanwhile they can't even win the same as us!

    So my sister asked to dealer who she also knows, how much the guy lost and the dealer tells my sister the amount, and low and behold. the amount equals what the guy's deal was with the other member who loaned him the investment money and my money and one more person's money for another system was the exact amount that he lost during the last couple of weeks!!!!

    But just like this guy above, through his own admission of losing someone else's money and is selling stuff and the unavailability to pay back anything and discount things that other people say that he doesn't even know, it's the same s***!

    Are all the system sellers are teachers related and use the same modus operandi? They take money, gamble, lose and can't even win with their own system!!!

    And people are giving this guy Kudos on here, for his information and he just admited what he did above, what the f*** am I missing?


    Okay for sake of argument, just say I was talking about this member above and I am Glen, which I emphasize I am not, but just say I was,how come this such honest and distinguished member of these communities above cannot even win with his own system??????? What am I missing?

    What the f*** am I missing?? I feel like I'm back in Africa and Zimbabwe being conned by John the Barrister with 15 billion dollar inheritance and I only have to give him a few hundred dollars for the fees to get my $5,000 every day by Western Union. LOL to the maximum!
     
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    • Violation of Rule #1
    First and foremost, the police should never steal money that was illegal in the first place.

    Secondly, what kind of dropkick hands money over to a gambler in any arrangement or agreement, then complains when the money disappears?

    Thirdly, this sure reads like you are having a stab at gizmotron.

    Lastly, and specifically for others reading this, who is this John Blerg fucker anyway, and why is he even here?
     
  13. gizmotron

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    I've been on these forums for 12 years now. Some super high roller contacts me and offers to give me money. There are no limitations of risk as far as paying it back. There is no discussion that if I fail now, but at a later date in my life, I must share every dime with this high roller at an agreed upon 50% 50% split. He is not my manager and there is no contract that binds me to him. There was only one stipulation. If I started winning with the money that he sent me I agreed to go to his location overseas and bet some super high roller sessions with him. He was going to put up the money for all that too. He wanted to know how to beat the game, I guess.

    I let this same person into my school last year for free. But he went and did something that ended things for me. I tried like hell to figure out TurboGenius' depletion of uranium system, where things are actually due in randomness. There were several of us in the school that worked on it extensively. I took what we had and wrote a sim to see if it would validate the process. And to my amazement it did validate it working. So I hit money bags up for $1,500 and swore I had the proof. And he sent it to me too. Turns out that I had a function that processed out of location in the algorithm. It looked logical but it in fact colored the results just enough to make it look like it should win when it really had no chance. It even changed the telemetry in the software's results, a process I use to validate the computational steps of the process.

    So I go to the casino with his money and get my ass kicked. It should have worked. But it didn't. I had to find out why. So I found the problem in the software and relocated the function in the correct spot and I started getting the results that I got at the casino. Did I complain to Turbo? No. have I ever complained to Turbo? No.

    So I contacted the rich guy a day after I discovered the problem. He got so mad that he gave my personal information to Glen who went on to use cryptic threats on the forums to let me know that he knows where I live. He did this whole skit where he discovered a donuts shop right next to my address. The guy likes to use food as a metaphor. Glen hates me because I see traits of Narcissistic behavior described in the DSM-5 in his actions and writings, including personal emails. He is at least a control freak. This behavior here, right now, is classic Glen. So maybe it's just a coincidence that JB here is another control freak. The world is full of them. I can live with a failed attempt to beat Roulette for a guy that blows ten times what he gave me when he places just one bet. I'm the one with the method. He was the buyer. And most of all, he came to me. Nobody ever came to me and offered me money before this. But we now have the fucking conflict police in John Blerg. He's going to fix everything that is not right in this world. He's going to pretend. He's going to make make believe. Oh shit. save us from grand standing saviors.

    Time for a commercial. My one and only new student has mastered my newest method. So there are two of us that have demonstrated a total repudiation of the so called claim of a mathematical edge being the so called house's advantage. I have not decided to teach another student at this time. I probably won't need to. I'm not going to attempt to do the right thing with this gambling investor either. He can't be trusted at this point. I know this much though. We alone hold the keys to the future of gambling as it is currently known. Some of you will logically say to yourselves that I'm a persuasive individual and that you can see why the investor sent me the money in the first place. I didn't seek this guy out. He came to me. I will only teach another because it is far more interesting talking to a motivated learner than it is talking to the world on a gambling forum. In just three weeks, with only two hours discussion per day, he has proven that anyone can learn what I'm doing now.

    So you want to know hwy I haven't become a millionaire? Ever heard of Ed Thorp? He did it without becoming a millionaire. Be very careful what you wish for. You are part of all this history being made. I can wreck everything, whenever I want to. I just want more proof. It's the validation that would make a good book even better. The story has yet to be completed. And this part of the book looks to be prolific in its own disclosing. Thanks Glen or whoever you are. I decided to place my discoveries in plain sight. So far that tactic alone has worked as expected. In a way, you are all in the book. You were told. You can't complain to the world that I cheated you. You could blame Glen and JB though. That would look good at this point. People will flock to these forums just to see if what I have just said is true. Now, you are all in the funny papers.

    There is only one conclusion to make at this point. Am I crazy or am I crazy?
     
  14. John Blerg

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    I would have agree with my sister that there was no need to go into that little kids tantrum. I wasn't even talking about you but like I said earlier, the confessional was motivating in enlightening to say the least.

    As far as the above members position or standing I guess that's up to the other members if you want to pay somebody to teach you his ways when he cannot even win as he confessed!!!!!!

    Back to what I originally said about the police in Southern Cal, so many Internal Affairs departments have cases and guilty confessions and guilty findings of sworn police officers borrowing money from drug dealers or confiscations. Lol. that's not right and that's about the same thing here as I see it.

    So in other words what you're saying if you got it and you invest it, it's okay to squander it or not be responsible for it??

    But the whole bottom line is forget the investment thing, why in the f*** didn't you just apply what you teach and make money and flaunt it, show it and get hundreds of thousands of students ?? Let me answer that. that's not what you wanted. How's that?

    I guess I'm also reaching out for the experience I had when Los Angeles County confiscated my previous ice cream cart because I didn't have a City license permit to sell ice cream products street side and later dropped the case but by the time I would have paid the impound and evidence fees it was more costly than the cart itself which was a couple thousand dollars. I guess the irony of it is the opposite happened to me where a rich entity picked on me and I lost out so maybe I should save up tens of thousands of dollars and then go after them and take their money? You got some money you can loan me from all the money you make winning at roulette? And we can be partners and suing the County of Los Angeles!

    I sure wish I could justify my not having a permit to being black or racist or underprivileged or from the projects of Coney Island or anything but I can't I failed to pay the money and fill out the application to get the permit in the first place. I wish I could find somebody named Glenn to blame it on, it would be a lot easier. I'm still trying to make up the money I lost.
     
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    flail on, it's fun to watch you babble. Is you sister good looking? Let's bring her up some more. I had your sister and she paid me too.
     
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    So you felt the need to come on this posting that wasn't even about you and accuse me of being somebody else okay.

    I just want to understand this since you dragged me into it. You teach and you sell stuff on these message boards by your own admission. I see nobody vouching for giving reference to your programs or information that has made them money. Those are facts.

    You can't produce any references and these people won't come forward who view this that you taught. . You've also borrowed or had money invested in you and you lost it by your own admission and you're not making money gambling by your own admission as well. Those are also facts by your own admission not by assumptions.

    You've seen to blame Glenn and myself and some other people for your downfalls or for your deficits let's say. You're perfect, because according to what you wrote other people cause you to fail and blame you for things that you have not done? You have to be the epitome of either being an alcoholic or drug addict or in a delusional state of gambler's fallacy from things I've read and I believe that's all fact. That's sure what it seems to be.

    I do have a message board email sent off, copying this conversation to the owner of the other message board as well as some others that are concerned.

    But I really want to just understand this one thing. Glenn doesn't sell anything and he doesn't charge anything for his message board. But you do sell things and provide services and I searched and searched and I see nobody vouching or giving reference for what they've paid you for either your services or giving you investment money as you label it. Those are 100% fact.

    What a beautiful way to start the day! It sucks.
     
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    Here is a wacky notion. John Blerg is a Russian Bot. The algorithm has filtered thru the writings of Glen, both here from the past and at the other forum. It has developed a style designed specifically to make people here think that he is in fact a sock of the evil one. This is all done because we at this forum had a lot to say about the presidential election a year and a half ago. JB is nothing but a lingerer waiting for more political discourse in 2018.
     
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    Why do you blame your downfalls on control freeks, as you label them????

    Whatever you did wrong or whatever you did that you couldn't justify, you blamed on one or two or three control freaks. It wasn't you, it was Glenn it was me it was a couple of other individuals I already got private messages from on other boards. I would name them but I rather save that for a little bit.

    Kind of like when Archie Bunker said on national TV about the Negroes moving in on his block and he didn't want Edith, his wife to socialize with the Negroes. Same thing.
     
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    Poor wounded Blow Job, JB. Boy are you an idiot. Now you are bolstering yourself up by seeing me as a person blaming other people. That's your delusion. It supports your fake life that you live in and are scared to death that anyone might see you a failing or ignorant regarding it. It's easy to prove in you too. Show us all where I blame anyone regarding my failings in gambling? I have more balls than you punk. I'm not afraid to have failed along the way to success. You, on the other hand project your own limitations in your lack of ability to relate to what is real.
     

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