Roulette Scams BUYER BEWARE: RoulettePhysics.com is a SCAM!

Following up on my exposure of the roulette scammer Steven George Hourmouzis (aliases "Steve", "Stefano", "Steve Hourmouzis", "SteveH", etc.) in this thread, I'm going to expose the network of sites this scammer owns and uses to perpetuate his roulette scam.

The scammer Steven George Hourmouzis owns almost every single roulette review, forum, and "informational" site on the internet related to roulette in order to bury ANY negative criticism of him and his sites so that all searches for this scammer only show fake "positive" reviews and results created by him to fool unsuspecting suckers. I was almost one of them, until I did my research and started sifting through the fake reviews to find the REAL truth about this scammer.

Read below for more details, but he owns at least 20 more of these fake "roulette" sites touting his BS systems and computers, so don't believe ANYTHING positive you read about this scammer or his scam products since they're all written by him!

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Seriously avoid this new latest scamming site from internet criminal Steven Hourmouzis> [plain]http://roulette-computers.com

Never purchase such equipment from Australia were the authorites turn a blind eye to fraud.

Avoid these sites below and purchasing any predictive devices from Australia. They WILL NOT SELL through eBay or Paypal and will want instant Bank transfer payments so you cannot get your money back . In Australia the Government and the Law allow this Person to persist in operating his scam. Most of the sites and Forums are Owned by a notorious Internet Criminal who has done time for Internet Fraud previously. His name is Steven Hourmouzis.

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genuinewinner.com http://www.rouletteforum .cc/

Quote: There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. –Aristotle
We have had our fair share of criticism from competitors, mainly because we are the worlds leading experts with 100% positive feedback on our roulette computer sales!



RULES WHEN BUYING ROULETTE COMPUTERS

One Golden rule Separates Genuine Sellers and fake sellers .

Genuine Sellers OFFER UNCONDITIONAL PAYMENT PROTECTION GUARANTEE’S that if you are not happy within a certain time period, you can obtain a refund of the full cost automatically without discussing with the seller. We are the only seller to offer such guarantees through eBay and Escrow. If a seller does not offer these options, AVOID!

Competitors are not going to say a great deal that’s positive about their competitors, its like Mercedes saying they like BMW and that they have better cars. This is why we have performance pointers that DEAL with EXACT FACTS with Evidence , the cars acceleration, the fuel efficiency, price, etc. This separates common sense and facts from personal opinion and lies. Another good pointer is feedback from Real customers( With Proof of purchase) . But the most important FACTOR when buying such equipment is a fully refundable( no quibble or conditions) money back GUARANTEE and allowing part payment upfront! We are the only seller to offer this.(We give a 14 day Money Back Guarantee and allow 50% of costs upfront, the remainder to be paid within 28 days)

Lets look at the 4 main suppliers of such equipment. The last two on the list are owned by Steven Hourmouzis (formerly Imprisoned for internet Fraud and scamming people, no I am not joking, take a look here along with over 220 complaints to me about his roulette systems and scams)

The main CRIMINAL Culprit is ” Steven Hourmouzis” in Australia who operates numerous forums and sells under different names who claims he is a legitimate business. Here is his Own History to date. .

1) Imprisoned for Scamming and Fraud and using the internet for perpetrating his scam 1999 Read more

2) Forced by US to refund one Victim $8000 who allowed us to show proof ” PUBLICLY” of the purchase and and what he found wrong with Hourmouzis Roulette Computer and his paper system over an 8 month period after we revealed how Hourmouzis scammed Tony from France. See what the customer found here .

3) 2013 JULY Recently been investigated and reported to the FBI, one Smart guy went above the Police and the Governing ACCC that regulates businesses to FILE A FEDERAL CASE against Hourmouzis and successfully Sued him in an AUSTRALIAN COURT OF LAW for THEFT. The Courts found Hourmouzis business addresses to be all Bogus. When the courts investigating Officers look into it further it was found that Hourmouzis claims to be Destitute of no Fixed address which is partially true. But his accounts were found to have nearly $50,0000 in Australian Dollars, most of the money coming form his online roulette scams. The address he is currently at is rented and he owns no properties like he claims. The rented property is shared by Kylie Tjepkema and she also became liable for half of the theft from the victim and is involved in the online theft of peoples money. Anyone wanting to join in a joint ” CLASS ” Claim against Hourmouzis simply have to just send me their name and address and proof of purchase. It will not cost you anything at all and you will be entitled to a full refund. The Police and ACCC are now looking into his business affairs and Criminal Activities.

HOURMOUZIS claims I am lying, but the COURT’s investigators claim he was BROKE and on CENTERLINK BENEFITS. The FBI were involved. THe COURTS ORDERED HOURMOUZIS TO PAY BACK MR BRANDTS $2500 USD For evidence of this you could purchase the COURT CASE C2662/2013 from VCAT YOURSELVES, all the documents 150 plus pages are there. Download some of them here to see that THIS CRIMINAL IS ON BENEFITS! AVOID ANYONE SELLING IN AUSTRALIA, they could be involved with this guy has he has many websites.





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4) SCAM WATCH Current outstanding claim against his website for nearly $3000 damages Read More





Most so called Cheap imitators rely on Consistent ROTOR speed(are within certain parameters) for their videos in order for their equipment and methods to work. Casinos having vast resources of money and paid independent Mathematicians and Analysts way back in the 1980’s when people were attacking wheels with basic software. Since then, ALL CASINOS throughout the world are told to mix up their spins, especially the rotor speed and not to become complacent. If you are lucky, you might come across such a sloppy dealer after weeks of visiting and have a lucky session whilst he or she is on their shift whilst the Pit Boss has his eyes on some pretty croupiers backside! ( Pit Boss is instructed to observe for sloppy Rotor spins and ball spins, paying out incorrect amounts, they are there not to look important, but serve a purpose!) I have the other 4 Vendors systems and methods as well as their written instructions and know Absolutely they rely on Consistent Rotor spins and Dealer Signature, their Videos demonstrate this. ( Their Videos are YOUR FACTUAL EVIDENCE that they are in fact tricking you and using Consistent Rotor Speeds).

Further Reading about Steven Hourmouzis. .

His Phone products are the most simplistic pieces of Junk I have ever come across, cheap Java programs (totally useless) made to look like they predict roulette when they cannot even deal with accurate timings (Java is known for this). One customer in France Paid $8,000 dollars and received a secondhand phone worth $40, some poorly made leads and after having both his products lost money over an 8 month period. He will definitely finish up going back to prison where he was imprisoned for Fraud and Scamming people previously.

Read more about roulettecomputers.com and genuinewinner.com products and how one customer hit back.

Avoid the VLSroulette.com. This site is a breeding ground for deception! He pretends to be his own customers and gives himself positive reviews. But if you check his videos, all his videos have Consistant ROTOR SPEEDS meaning you would never find conditions like this in the casino, The pit bosses are told to mixthe spins up, fast and slow rotors etc. This is owned By a WELL KNOWN FORMER IMPRISONED FRAUDSTER and Internet Conman unfortunately (Steven Hourmouzis) . He has done prison for lying, faking sites and reviews of not only me but everyone else in this business. his computer phone is based on free software we give away for free on this very site, so before you are tempted by his lies and fantasies of a $15,000 phone that only obtains a 26% edge, take a moment to think ..Read about his victims at http://stevenhourmouzis.com

He writes convincingly, but so he should, he’s a very dangerous conman and the Police in Australia are well aware of his antics and illegal business competition methods.

Remember, we see people in person and allow you to pay only a small percentage deposit, this guy does not, ask yourself why?





OUR EBAY FEEDBACK Click Here

What we do is wear our products on our sleeves, we sell through Ebay, so you can see our 100% Positive feedback from our users. no other Seller does this and no other sellers show a computer that can beat level wheels! Bear this mind when purchasing from a supplier!

One competitors product ( Steven Hourmouzis ) that costs you $15,000 for is mobile phone runs the basic mathematics we give away for free on this very site! So never pay thousands for a roulette computer!

Forums-Also avoid elaborate Forums set up by systems sellers to write fake positive reviews of their own products pretending to be customers and knocking other competition. Remember Forums are a breeding ground for deception!

Read about other suppliers and the history of such Equipment is OUR

OTHER SITE

http://roulettecomputers.info


This guy Steven Hourmouzis has problems, please avoid at all costs and read What his own customers(Victims) state about his products and his refusal to honour his 200% money back guarantee. Also read about his imprisonment for internet fraud which involved lying to people. He owns various sites, but http://stevenhourmouzis.com has the full explanation of how he operates, lies and cheats to gain sales of a product that his customers claim do not work. See how he fools you into believing he is playing for real at an online casino until we spotted a mistake in his screen shot he overlooked .the fact it was in FUN MODE. He has been exposed countless times for lying and manipulating pictures, facts and his knowledge about roulette prediction.



http://www.zyworld.com/bago/stefano_hourmouzis_scam.htm





Read about other suppliers and the history of such Equipment at OUR

OTHER SITE

http://roulettecomputers.info
Also note in other vendors videos that the ball should bounce around a bit, there should be scatter, if the ball seems to stop dead or only travel a few pockets in any demonstration, I can guarantee that in the REAL world in will NOT work. Make sure you only pay a small % of the total amount until you have tried it ON REAL wheels or someone else’s footage. Also make sure they understand LEVEL play and can produce evidence of applying LEVEL play, most wheels are a combination of both.

 

GO PACKERS and BADGERS !!!!

 

My thing is

Never buy roulette anything

Number 1 rule

Including steves computers

Steve wants one thing : profit

Thats why he has a roulette forum empire and roulette system review websites. To pomote his stuff

That being said: i like steve. I think hes a good guy

But he must protect his business. He has to delegitamize everything and promote his stuff

I like him though. But would never buy it

Do you really need two threads though you fucking idiot? Anyone with a brain knows why he owns all the forums and review websites

Everyone uses his forums cause they are the most popular

A roulette computer seller has a website that reviews systems. What do you think will be top of the list. DUH einstein

P.s. the ironing board was funny

I like steve but im a realist

 

Maybe he is and maybe he ain’t a roulette scammer.


But if he’s running all these businesses AND receiving Centrelink benefits, then he is a scammer!


If he is on benefits, then he’s scamming Australian taxpayers out of their hard earned dollars!


That sucks. I fucking hate social security scammers. They, the military, and politicians are keeping this country poor.


In 2005 after paying big taxes for 30 years, I had to retire for health reasons. I went to Centrelink to register for benefits as I could not work any more. They registered me then told me that although I was now registered, I was what they call a Nil Pay client, because my wife earned a lousy $30,000 a year, which was above the limit at the time.


A few people suggested that we claim to be inconsolably separated then I could claim benefits.


I decided they could stick their lousy money up their collective arse. I would find another way to make ends meet.


So If Steve H is on benefits while earning big bucks then he needs his head smacked around.


If he’s not on benefits then he’s cool by me with all the other crap.

 

You know, you just can't have too many free advertising threads about Steve.

id

 

How somebody can sey somthing negative abaut steve's forums. I alwais had a pleasant home there. I could live out all my neuroses there and was treated caring. Especially steves puppet Turner has always held a protecting hand over me. Even if I break laws, commit product piracy or slander members. I'm free to do what I want at these forums.

And yu know me I'm a very nice guy. By the way sorri for my english, because mi IQ is just 45 or so.
But there is only one thing I can't stand this is if people are clerverer then mi.
I really need to be called as professor even if I never saw a univeriti from inside.
Ah jo one other thing I can not stand if people ask questions. I hate it. So dont ask me somethink or I will delete all my post, I swear.

So better I do not explain anything to anyone. Its much mor fun to just comit online crimes.
But I wonder if I really should use a real photo of myself and my Address in Gütersloh online. What do you guys think.
But that is only a rhetoric question because of me beeing a pathetic narcissist I have to.

So I off now and work on improving my character and personality.

Winkel

 

The poster above me is not winkel.

It's someone who obviously has a lot of time on their hands

The internet is a sad place sometimes

I dont think its caleb but it could be. Actually maybe it is

Hard to believe some people are grown men

Winkel never did anything to anybody

If you do not like GUT hit the back button and move on. No need to carry on like little pussies

Grow up

 

I actually cant belive a grown ass man can spend so much time bashing a poster and their method for years on end

Let it go

You dont like it. We get it. Let the people who post about it, post about it

Period

Asshole

Or continue to slander winkel for years to come

The truth: some people do not care to learn AP and you will not change minds. The people that want to play AP will

 

Rich.....its not who you think it is.

Its Gutroulette or Rouletti. The GUT ebook chap

lol

 

How does everyone know my name lmao

 

amazing that you can rip someones ideas off with an ebook for profit. Then mock them

Truly incredible

Must be greek

 

Someone is allowed to use winkels photo without being him?

 

I apologize for disrupting the forum. I'm simply responding to false allegations on the multiple threads permitted by the admin.

The manipulative nonsense about me on this website is from people with ulterior motives. Don't expect them to be honest. I have already responded to the irrelevant and inaccurate claims on my website. You could waste days reading it all, and still not know the truth about what matters most.

Easier ways to verify facts FOR YOURSELF about the relevant matters are below:


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For the ROULETTE SYSTEM (advantage play methods)
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• Read my free course. It better explains "advantage play" and includes various free systems you can test: (link forbidden by admin)

• Test my software for yourself (full version for 7-days). Validation can't be more direct: (link forbidden by admin)

• Google "advantage play" and "roulette wheel physics". Also research "casino game protection". What casinos do to protect themselves gives clues about what worries them, and what really works.

• Call or visit me personally, even if only to better understand me.

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For the ROULETTE COMPUTERS
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• Test my free roulette computer on any wheel you want. You can test from home on your PC. It's completely free: (link forbidden by admin)

• See an in-person or live webcam demo on any wheel you want. Do whatever testing you want in a full day: (link forbidden by admin)

• Attend a free public group demo. I openly address and refute false allegations. Everyone sees for themselves. Register interest to attend: (link forbidden by admin)

• See independent test results of my computers: I sent a free computer to an independent and unbiased tester chosen by the public. They validated my claims. See their report: (link forbidden by admin)

• See a recording of a previous public group demo where over +120% edge was demonstrated: (link forbidden by admin)

• Aim a webcam at any wheel via Skype (including live online casinos), and I'll predict the spins with my computers. We can do this for a whole day on any wheel you want. Request a demo: (link forbidden by admin)

• Watch numerous secretly recorded videos of real casino sessions from players (with player permission). You even see the roulette computer's software track the wheel location with computer vision technology, and automatically track the ball and green zero, then predict the spins. See details: (link forbidden by admin)

• Watch LIVE video of a real casino session with our players (requires the player's permission first). See details: (link forbidden by admin)

• Join my private teams and pay me $0.00 up-front. Pay only based on the performance of the computers: (link forbidden by admin)

Take these simple options, then the false allegations against me count for nothing.



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• There's much more information at a website I created specifically to address all nonsense about me and my technology. The admin here wont allow the links or videos mentioned above, so email me via my website for the links.

• Negative material about me is extremely manipulative. Serious players do proper research like the above - it makes knowing the important facts simple. But if you prefer wasting time with irrelevant trash, understand some of it is blatantly false. And some is an elaborate distortion of the truth. I have already responded to it all in detail. I dont have time to waste re-typing it. Find my responses via Google (my links are censored here). I may not read or respond to further posts here, so please don't ask me questions here.

• The original member here who attacked me (IHeartRoulette) appeared to be the owner of gamblingforums, discrediting me to promote his competing forum. The admin removed evidence from the threads (censorship). Then he labelled me a "compulsive liar", which is itself a lie. I could post more, but it would only be censored again and I don't have time.

 

The admin here doesn't allow links to my websites that refute nonsense about me (he's biased). So I wrote more detail on this site here: Steven George Hourmouzis

If you're only interested in whether or not my technology works: Take options like my free trials, and test on any wheel you want. It's very easy to know the truth about what counts. See my website for a list of easy ways to see my technology works. The people attacking me don't mention these options. Also understand some people who attack me are incredibly uneducated, and may actually believe some of what they say. Yet they get even basic things wrong like misunderstanding information on my websites. There are even cases where people have impersonated me to deliberately make false statements. So there's an incredible amount of misinformation published.

If you're interested irrelevant nonsense and personal attacks: You'll need to read my entire website which address the dishonest attacks against me to fully understand the situation. The truth is beneath an elaborate web of manipulative nonsense. So you could waste days verifying everything, and still not know the truth about what matters. You're better off taking options like testing my technology for yourself on any wheel you want.​

My websites aren't hard to find. Google "[removed]" or "[removed]". But [removed] to find detailed responses to the rubbish allegations against me.