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Roulette Can you read the TROT. DSAA I think not.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Jan 12, 2022.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    If 16 repeats are the average over 40 spins; and they show as 1-3-5-7=16
    You can be - or + in each group of 10 spins.
    Above spins 1-10; no repeat, -1. I bet spin 10 would be a repeat from 1-9, lost.
    Read the stream/TROT profit spin 18. The spins 11-20 ends, -2.
    So, with a bit of thinking you can watch the stream and decide whether to bet for repeat or a non-hit.
     
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    Naughty, what would be the trot count model on ds, streets, quads ..
     
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  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    The Top 3 above is it showing an advantage?
    Okay here are 42 spins from a player called Hottsteppa; could pick any 40 spins from R-sim. Only using the 1st 40 spins.
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    1st; Top 3 are looking good.
    Now could you watch the stream/TROT? Below some curve fitting; but it's just hoping you could learn to read the Steam/TROT; The DSAA, I think not.
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    Spins 1-10 ends +0. When the repeat hits on spin 5; you’d be hoping for another repeat. You could then make decisions on whether to bet for non-hit.

    Spin 11-20. If you know of Winkel’s reference for 13 spins, that is, it’s possible you’d have had 2 repeats. If it didn’t repeat on spin 12; would you have bet all 1x’s on spin 13? But this bet has gone.

    Spin 18; still shows only 2 numbers have repeated. The score at 20th spin is 4 repeats; 1+3=4. Now; you could hope spin 19 is another of the remaining non-hit and then bet that the 20th spin is a repeat from all 1x’s.

    If spin 19 was a repeat, the score is 3 repeats. Personally, if I waited the opportunity has gone for a bet on 20th spin, 3 repeats; it could get another repeat and have the score of 4 repeats; +0.

    Now spins 21-30; score could be 9 repeats at 30th spin. Again be +0.

    So, to get too 9 repeats in these 10 spins you need 5 repeats. At 20 spins there has been 16 non-hits; the average for the remaining non-hits is 2 spins, up to the 19th non-hit; then the average to hit goes to 3 spins.

    What does the average for repeats usually show as? 1-3-5-7. The 5 is the section of the stream/TROT you are now watching.

    Spins 21-22 are repeats making more R1’s. That average to hit has missed. Now you could bet 21 remaining non-hits or just watch; the choice is yours.

    Yes, another repeat. If you are going to bet again, you’ll have to increase.

    Yes, one of the remaining hits. The score is 17/7 repeats. 24 spins; 6 more spins to come. If it remains at +0 at 30 spins, then the remaining non-hits need to catch up. 2 repeats from 6 spins; so are non-hits not viable.

    If you have been just watching the score for the 27 spins are 9 repeats; the next 3 spins could get one of the remaining non-hits. The average to hit is still 2 spins. Will it remain +0 at spin 30?

    Yes, the last 3 spins were all from the remaining non-hits and the score at 30 spins, is 21/9 repeats; +0

    The average to hit has gone to 3 spins now. Remember the repeat average looks like this 1-3-5-7=16. To get to 16 repeats; the 7 has to happen.

    If, the average to hit is happening LLW;LLW;LLW; L, that’ll be 3 more of the remaining and 7 repeats. So you need to watch and make decisions; or like the DSAA; you’d have no idea what’s going on.

    Remember the DSAA will say curve fitting. But these are Hottsteppa’s numbers and only an example.

    Now you can see if you could get a win, be it for repeat or one of the remaining.

    Look at the red box; it shows 15 repeats; so, 25 of the starting 37; -1 for repeats.

    Could you watch the stream/TROT??????
     
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    So nothing outlined for ds,q,st?
     
  5. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Sorry TRD only singles.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    How did I do for guessing with the 1-3-5-7?
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    This is from a screenshot of RX you posted in Turbo section. It's great to use the posted spins as the DSAA will say,"cough" curve fitting.
    There is no mention of when to bet.
    It is just showing the 1-3-5-7=16 for repeats over 40 spins. You would watch and decide when or if to bet.
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    Rulet

    On spin 30 the stream is +2 for repeats. 19/11 repeats. 1-3-5=9; +2

    The 1-3-5-7=16 for repeats; needs 5 more repeats by the 40th spin.

    I could only get 35 numbers from the RX screenshot.

    If it remains +2 for 40 spins, meaning 18 repeats hit. Then the spins 31-40 would have had 7 repeats.

    That’s what the 1-3-5-7 average shows; 7.

    Remember, you are watching the stream, seeing how the repeats are hitting.

    If the stream gets 10 repeats, that would make repeats 19/21. +5 over 40 spins. That is rare to be +5. Even to be -5 over 40 spins. But it happens once in a while.

    Remember you are not betting every spin. You need to think ahead what the 10th spin could be +/-; same for spins 20th – 30th & 40th. And that’s with out a time machine DSAA.

    So, the 35 spins have shown as +0 - +0 - +2; the last 5 spins have all been repeats; that makes the stream already have 16 repeats. Would the next 5 spins betting the 18 remaining non-hits miss?
     

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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    DSAA; can you read the stream/TROT yet?
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    For the repeat specialists
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    So, it was betting for repeats and non-hits. No time machine or crystal balls.
    Could chips and Co code it in 10 minutes? How would you code it; when there's random decisions being made?
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    Wow 40 spins. Again, why didn't you just test for one spin?
     
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    Here you go GORMLESS; just 60 spins. Why don't you go play 1 spin on a wobbly wheel if you can find it.
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    easy to follow gormless. Shall I post jack again you useless c--t
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Looking at your graph, it's obvious that you're continually losing back your entire bankroll over and over. For example at spin 18, you've lost it all, again at spin 23, and you lose it all again at spin 43. Then you cut off betting at spin 60 so that you don't have to show the next bankroll wipeout. (How convenient :rolleyes:) I don't know why you think the KFC works. But it's easy to see why you only test and post a handful of spins at a time. (Because you're losing it all every 20 or so spins!)
     
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    Should be a little bit more than 10 minutes.
    I'll give it a try on weekend.
     
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    You still don't get it gormless. The data collected shows even from your 10'330 live spins; repeats more often show as 1-3-5-7-30/60spins.
    So i don't have to go further than 60 spins. I could have stoped on spin 47. but the score showed to wait for the next chance, which came, even without the crystal ball you go on about.
    The shaking head is a bit worn out now; why not use Jack and his dog collar.

    Have you ever posted a method other than collect spins trying to find the wobbly unicorn. upload_2022-1-14_0-6-56.gif
     

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    Herb; how you going to code random selections. Selections that can be either repeats or non-hits.
    Herb; you and DSAA, don't you realise it's a game of chance and yes fixed odds.
     
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    Function "Random" :)

    Or do you use some kind of "gamblers intelligence" ? :blackalien:
    Not produceable by computer ? :hungover:
     
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    Yes, VB. I play both wobbly unicorns and vb.
     
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    Notto from my calculation from so far maybe i know your playing. Your last balance are plus 87 unit.

    Am i correct ?

    Btw your playing very interesting. Will try it

    Thanks naughty aka N***o :finger:
     
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    Anyway thanks to you too @Naughty but nice like the TG and the others thats not tired to help anyone who still want to learn to make improvement although lot of naysayer and negative comment

    Thanks
     
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    Just curious about time to bet. Because must change to adjust specially when face a bad streak.

    My live online dealer just have 25 and 40 second.

    If just add can be no problem. Just rebet and add some chips.

    But if must reduce. That gonna be a problem.

    Because must place the chip to all number again and sometimes the chips dont have it the exact we want to place.

    Lets say 22 number from 6 unit must change to 3 unit per number.

    How u solve this problem @Naughty but nice ?
     
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