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Baccarat Cases Closed!!!!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Jan 19, 2023.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I recent was reading Lyle Stuart on Baccarat and on page 160 he list all the streaks lengths for 160 complete shoe what he buck up against. So I eye=ball the result and see how the anti-streaks style would fare. Betting against the 1-2-3-4 streaks usin the 4 step grand marty would yield the gross profits of 272 unit. Now I tested this style aginst around 32K shoe and found that yer gonna lose about 45% of yer gross profits to vig so this sample would yield around 149.6 units nets profits or around .94 units per shoe. In my extensive testings of this style I captured around 1,5 units nets profits per shoe so this sample size slight under-performs but profits is profits. Now if you accept the bluster and harumph from the loser-player, bullshits artist who squeal that the bankers advantaged is supossed "negligle", or "insignificant" then the result for running the same style buckin up against bankers streak with yer wager landings on players side of the equation should be similar, right? Well it ain't, I done yet more kitcjhens table testings and running the same style, betting against 1-2-3-4 bankers streak with the same 4 step grand marty yield THE LOSS of -146 units! But hey, at least yer not payin vig on all them player wagers, right? So simple and plain, cased close, you should not be makin wagers on the player side of the equation, and yer clippin yerself if you insist on so ding, hey hey!!!!
     
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  2. baccarou

    baccarou Active Member

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    I didn't read Lyle's book. But reading some of the reviews, at least he doesn't glamorize gambling.

    This was a good one!

    5-Star RARE HARSH TRUTH CASINO BUSINESS! "Gamblers Are Fools" Is 1st Sentence! Truth "NO SYSTEM" DEFEATS HOUSE %Edge! *Page 120-Casino Lack Compassion* VALID COLD INDIFFERENCE! Casino Only Purpose TAKE Gamblers Money! People Work Various Occupation Become Addicted Are Inadvertently Working For The Casino! Card Shoes Will "Take Your Shoes"! "Gambling Produces Nothing"! "Wins Are Short Term Loans!" Casino SALES Bets Due House Edge Paid Less Than True Odds! *Wolf Loves The Sheep So Much That He EATS Them"! **Page: 119 "Emotional Cost" Distortion Of Values" Twisting Of Life's Meaning" Miserable Suffering Of Addicted Gamblers! *Choices Read Books, Movies, Nature Walks, Time With Family Instead ! "GIMMICKED SHOES PAGE 114"
    *Baccarat Book Is Beyond A Typical Gambling Book, Due TRUTH Pertaining The Casino Industry!

    Looks like I need to buy it. Anyway, thanks Soxfan for sharing your thoughts. Can't say I 100% agree with you on not betting on Player, but going by your stats, I can see why you choose not to!
     
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  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    But will the Bankers edge be there when needed ?
     
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  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The late Lyle Stuart. A blast from the past. 160 shoes is now the ultimate criteria? Rich. LOL I can show you 100 consecutive shoes where player has a significant advantage. But so what? Anecdotal nonsense.

    The plain fact of the matter is that no matter what whack-a-mole bet selection you choose unless you get a substantially higher number of Bankers than 50.7%, you're going to lose flat betting Bank.

    Cheers
     
  5. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    JAE Oscar's Grind method basically relied on RTM in order to gain advantage. Similarly one could theoretically do the same thing just waiting for an imbalance of player versus Banker. You might want to figure out what the most ideal player imbalance was the best. And you might have to sit and watch a very long time in order to get that imbalance just as JAE did. But if you did then you'd have a clear advantage just making flat bets on the banker side.

    It's the only way. Lyle Stuart or no Lyle Stuart.
     
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  6. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    SoxFan you're saying that your method is (or was) to wait for four in a row of Player, and then Martingale on Bank?
     
  7. 5pinn

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    only flat bet.
     


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