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Roulette chance of winning vs number of betting

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by chewtoy, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. chewtoy

    chewtoy Member

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    I haven't posted for a while, I have been working all summer and as the casino are not very welcoming during this covid era, I haven't been playing much...

    I would like to share some information that I find relevant and that some people can use to build strategies :

    80% of chance of winning (from your own research data and statistics) betting on two numbers : you can play these two numbers for 36 spins each and be in profit or break even long term.

    I made the calculation taking an average winning of 18 chips per win, so we have 18 times 8 = 72 / 2 (2 numbers) = 36

    70 % of chance of winning betting on one number : you can play it for as many as 42 spins
    60 % of chance of winning betting on one number : you can play it for as many as 27 spins

    I wouldn't play anything less than 60 %...

    What do you think of it ? do you find it accurate ? Is it too naive and completely mistaken ? and if you do how you would calculate it knowing ideally you want to play for a full cycle or even more spins.
     
  2. Dilon

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    in 37 spins you will have average 24 numbers
     
  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Yes and 13 repeats.

    Funny that 24 of the starting 37 hit making that the LOTT that Dr SAA calls flaw of the third.

    Now over at “Shhh!” roulette forum Dr SAA also AKA; The general or snowman, there’s just to0 many. Posted 10’330 live spins.

    I work in blocks of 10 spins and broke them into blocks of 185 spins.

    These groups of 185 gave an average for repeats of 1-3-5-7 & 30 over 60 spins.

    You see the 1-3-5-7=16, 16 repeats and 24 non-hit, total 40 spins.

    Now the average for the 16 at 40 spins can be +/- 2. Even +/-5 on very rare occasions.

    Leave that with you Dilon
     
  4. Dilon

    Dilon New Member

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    Thank i will work on that way.

    Best regards
     
  5. Dilon

    Dilon New Member

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    Where i need to read
    So we need find tipping point?
     
  6. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    You won’t need to read, what you need to do is play spins; use Live spins or use R-sim.

    I’ll post some excel, where you can place the spun number. It’ll be manual, but you will get the feel of how the non-hit can appear.

    You’ll start with the larger group and as the 1/37 spins go by, you’ll see there’s a point where the stream is 50/50; repeats and non-hit’s show. Then at some point you’ll say repeats happen more.

    From 1000 games on an air-ball machine; the average of 1-3-5-7 was again showing. This average is same for live spins, air-ball and RNG.

    If spins 11-40 shows repeats are 3-5-7=15. Then over 30 spins should repeats not be 5-5-5=15.

    So, the excel shows this for the 30 spins.

    Here is 10/10; no repeat. 10+15=25; so, 25 non-hit’s by 40th spin.

    You see countback has the expected 15 non-hit placed over spins 11-40 and the 24th non-hit is in the position of law of the third.

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    Here was a game on R-sim that started 10/10. You can see by spin 30 there's been 10 more of the remaining non-hits. By spin 38 made the +50 units that Priyanka set.
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  7. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    upload_2021-10-6_16-50-40.png
    See the larger group played as should. 21-30 is like a 50/50 set of spins. With 22 non-hit by 30 spins, weren't repeats more likely?
     

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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Naughty i will read
     
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    47 spins and 30 of the starting 37 have hit. 13 spins left will it be 33 at 60 spins
     
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    is there any advantage of knowing top 3? where's the matches. We know why; to0 many 1x that go R1
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    If top 3 are not matching, then you know what's happening. Hole is getting bigger
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    wow, just 1 of the starting 37 left. Matches are not quick enough
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    So, is there an advantage knowing top 3 TURBO ?
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    Could you really have faith in the leader when matches up till now are short?
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    The 37 have all hit once
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    We don't need R1 going R2. R3 to R4 be better
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    What's reply #9 in advantage 3
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    The matches are to0 slow.
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    The earlier laps are hitting better than top 3
     
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    If the hot wake up, be fine but the gap to hit are to0 slow.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    7 spins and gives the cheapest
     

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