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Roulette Coding and share the data for Even Chance?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by hotjohnnn, May 11, 2022.

  1. jbs

    jbs Well-Known Member

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    Wrong as usual kemosabe. N0 (N-Zero) proves you wrong again.
     
  2. hotjohnnn

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    Run 1 million spins on RX and post it here and i will show you what a few know and what most of us do not get.
    I get it now because one nice person pointed this to me like i will do for you.

    I will need e-mail details though because i can t send pm here.
     
  3. hotjohnnn

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    That's because it is not long-term, you can't live long enough to play long-term. You can only ever play in the extreme short-term, that's the only thing that will ever affect you.[/QUOTE]

    I disagree.
    It s like you say in the short term we can win more times than we lose.
    Does not make any sense.
    What you describe is lkie the guys who play hit and run also it will never work.
    You may think you play in short term but you do not because lets say you play for 10 years.
    That is a fact.
     
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  4. SPIKE

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    You disagreeing or agreeing has nothing to do with the fact that you cannot live long enough to play in the long term. You cannot place enough bets in your lifetime, not even close, where long-term is going to affect you. The casino can figure it's profits using the math of the long-term because it accepts thousands of bets a day, day after day month after month, it grinds out the long-term results. Steve Wynn has talked about this, how the math of the long-term is always correct eventually when it comes to casinos. It's never correct when it comes to individual players because the players are playing in the extreme short-term with every bet they make.
     
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  5. SPIKE

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    If you have no edge hit and run is a waste of time. Hit and run or play for 3 hours what's the difference. It has nothing to do with short-term or long-term, you have a losing method no matter how you play. If you have an edge over the casino hit-and-run works very well. But you have to have a large enough edge that manifests itself over a short number of spins for it to work.
     
  6. hotjohnnn

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    How many bets have you placed in your life so far?
     
  7. hotjohnnn

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    If you have an edge short term does not make any sense.
    Time after time will prove if you have the edge or not.
     

  8. SPIKE

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    Long term is about quantity, not time. This is why you can mimic the long-term with a computer simulation. Have it run millions of bets and you know what the long-term looks like. Only took a few minutes. That's why I keep saying you can't live long enough to make enough bets to qualify you for the long term. You will always be playing in the extreme short-term where anything can happen. The long-term math does not apply to you.
     
  9. SPIKE

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    Depends on how big your edge is. A large edge manifests itself in a very short time.
     
  10. hotjohnnn

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    Partially wrong
    That s why i asked how many bets because it s about quantity but you didn t reply me with a straight answer.
    And you did not because the answer would be something like 200.000 or 100k does not matter really.
    This is called long term it does not matter if you did it in 10 sessions per day or 1 session in your life.
     
  11. Garfield

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    Thanks, but I'll pass....
     
  12. SPIKE

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    And there lies the problem, it's called long-term but it is not long-term. I will keep repeating it, that you cannot live long enough to play in the long term. Even if you could play 24 hours a day for your entire life it's not long enough for the long-term math to affect you. Like Steve Wynn says his only job in his casinos is to get as many people coming through the doors as he possibly can so that he reaches the long-term math statistics. Because when he reaches the long-term he will always be in profit if he can get enough people betting. What is this conversation even about, if you don't have the edge it doesn't matter if you play in the long term or the short-term you're going to lose.
     
  13. hotjohnnn

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    We agree that we disagree nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Hi Hotjohnnn,
    Here is the data for 1 million spins. My email is [email protected]

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    Kind regards!
     


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