Craps Consumer Warning - Heavy's Biased Dice ...

Consumer Warning - Heavy's Biased Dice for sale

Heavy will charge you $42.99 for these cheap dice, but will he guarantee they are balanced - he simply states:

What are the odds that the 1 will keep surfacing and stopping in the same spot each time -- not once, not twice BUT 5 out of 5 times - see this video of Heavy's AxisPowerCraps Dice:



Either Stephen "Heavy" Haltom is clueless and has no idea how to verify what he is selling OR Heavy is purposely selling very cheap dice for an enormous profit on purpose .... You decide

... My apologies for the amateur camera work - it's not my expertise, but you can tell it's not edited

From Heavy's Newsletter:

"Created from an exclusive cellulose acetate formula developed to insure
clarity, hardness and stability, these dice are milled to 1/10,000th of an
inch and certified by the manufacturer to be perfectly balanced. They are
the perfect dice to take your practice sessions to the next level.

Your price is $39.99 plus $3 shipping and handling - $42.99 total. Order
now"

 

Notice the "Heavy" rocking motion especially on the 2nd spin !! ... Mother Nature and gravity are "Heavily" pulling the loaded part of the die towards earth ...

A balanced die should come to a randomly different and soft stop in this Casino balancing caliper. The load in Heavy's unbalanced die will not let the die come to a smooth soft stop.

 

Holy moly!

That is some bias on that die.

 

Harley what do you expect from a hobbyist? Heavy only plays craps as a hobby, and teaches so he has his buy-in's!

 

Harley,

The dice spinner in the video above is junk. It's not going to tell if you the dice are necessarily off balance. When dice have chipped corners, or if you do a poor job of placing them in the calipers they'll appear off balance.

 

Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone ... do you have a better caliper ?
... this is a casino grade caliper used by more than 90% of the casinos and Gaming Commissions
and these dice do not have chipped corners, they have been used less than 30 minutes and are not canceled

 

Why would someone pay $40 for a stick of dice? You can get Quality Casino Dice all day long for $13 a Sleeve at American Gaming Supply. Now, I have not put them on a Balancing Caliper(Ordering one today), but I haven't noticed any Bias. Well I guess the extra $27 is for the Name: "Axis Power Craps". LOL

 

The use car sales man has to make money some how!

 

Yes, the casino's use of them is absurd as well.

 

That depends on what side of the table you are standing on. If I work for a casino, I would say the same thing! But if I was standing on the players side of the table I would have a different opinion and would never make the same kind of statment that you just made, or lets take it one step farther and say if I ran an on-axis DI school and didn't know how to get around the biased dice, I would never admit that any casino would ever have bad dice in the game!

I always like to ask this question of anybody that I do not know on these boards,...do you even play craps? It's amazing how many posters are very opinonated and know everything about the game and they never even play it!

 

DI schools and biased dice = absurd.

What prove do you actually have that the dice are biased?
How many individual die cubes have you tested, and for how many trials?
What was the chi square of the test?
What was the highest standard deviation of the biased die?
How about coefficient of restitution testing? Did you find a difference from one face of the cube verses another?
Can you provide us with some data, demonstrating that a statistically relevant number of throws were actually tested?

 

I must agree with Dr. Sir Anyone. You have spoken about dice bias for some time but provided no statistical evidence that I have seen that confirms that bias. Based on your clear animosity toward Heavy, I would not put it past you to have altered the die yourself in order to heap more coals on the guy.

 

It is obvious you did not handle the dice with gloves. You probably accidently got some moisture or shit from your hands on the face of the six

 

Hey fish, if I was you, I would tread softly with a military hat, skull & crossbones and an... AK47

 

Your right...but the post was addressed to Mr. Science Guy Harley

 

Tony, since I don't see how to edit a post, I think you may have misread my original post. The gist of it was the dice tester probably caused bias to the dice by transfer of foreign substance from his/her fingers to dice. One could easily do this if they deal in BS like said dice tester.

 

Isn't it amazing that these Heavy and irish sock puppets just suddenly appear because the real Heavy and irish are too chickenshxt too show up and defend themselves because they know their 1st grade arguments don't hold water:

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fish and MisterAK - I have showed you my dice balancing video - why don't you get Heavy or irish or yourselves to get a caliper and post your own video showing the dice free spinning - let the videos speak for themselves

.... and fish I will do a favor just for you - I received an email from 1 of Heavy's dice customers from out of state that recently purchased Heavy's dice and has not even opened them yet and wants me to test them for balance before he uses them .... once I receive them, I will open them while wearing special Las Vegas CSI gloves and place them in the caliper and do another video for you

.... even though any 3rd grader can stop or slow motion the video above and see there is no "moisture or shit on the face of the six"

 

Harley,
That sounds like a good approach to me. I'm always ready to help in anyway I can.

 

After spending some time reading the other threads on this forum over the last 24 hours I have a better grasp on what is going on here. In his many posts Harley has proven one point. That it is pointless to argue with a person who is mentally deranged due to brain damage from a previous traumatic head injury. Help is available, sir. Contact the Brain Trauma Foundation at https://www.braintrauma.org/.

For the benefit of those of you who are not a member of Heavy's forum, he responded to your ridiculous accusations there. Here are a few highlights of his post:

Heavy then addressed the die in question:

Why was the fact that this die is ten years old not disclosed in your original post, sir? Where has this die been for the last ten years? Your public wants to know.

Say it isn't so!

[quote) . . .the bottom line is the die in question was 10 years old. Anything could have happened to that die in 10 years, and none of it relates to the condition of the die when it was originally manufactured and "sold."[/quote]

But wait a minute, soldier! There is more to the fraud you are perpetrating on the public. Your post and those that follow lead readers to believe Heavy is selling his dice for $42 a stick. I have looked at the advertisements on his forum and that is not true. He sells a set of two sticks of dice for $39 plus shipping. Here is his explanation:

Heavy wrapped up with the following comment:

Here is what I took from Heavy's comments. You posted an article deliberately slanted to negatively impact his business and his reputation in the gaming community. Your "proof" can never be trusted as you are known to make up "facts" to support your claims. You are, as was proven in your discourse with the poster $nakeeye$, a liar and a fraud.