Craps Consumer Warning - Heavy's Biased Dice ...

... and true enough, the bully Heavy has a sock puppet top hide behind

it will be interesting to see how the Texas Attorney General's Office - Consumer Protection Division will view the 2 videos of unbalanced dice I send them that clearly shows 10 years of a Texas company selling unbalanced dice that they claim in their newsletters and website are:

... Maybe "Heavy" stands for Heavy loaded dice that could be Heavy's new marketing slogan

 

Hey fish, to edit, just click on 'edit' which you will find mid-left page, on your post. Do it once and ur an expert...

 

Mr. Baloney,
Thanks, I still don't see it, but I'll should figure it out in a month or two. Oh there I see it. Another edit...Definition of a sock puppet. One that disagrees with your opinion.

 

MisterAKa Heavy - since you are a "brand new" member (sock puppet) to this craps world just over the weekend on 2 boards including your own board (Heavy's), you have done a lot of reading to catch up and gain so much knowledge in "the last 24 hours"

... so let's just try to stick to the facts .... you posted above that I am trying to hurt Heavy's "business" yet Heavy says it is just a hobby:

and AGAIN:

.... so all I am trying to do with video proof is not hurt his hobby but trying to protect consumers, so why would that upset you MisterAKa Heavy ??!!!!

 

Curious about something about these posts about what Harley and also what Heavy posted. One thing that kind of confuses me. Heavy said that the caliper was "cheap" I belive or "junk". How can he tell from this video? Also Heavy mentioned that the dice were not put in the caliper "correctly" or "properly". And once again how can one tell which is "correct" or "incorrect" when placing the dice in the caliper from the video? To me that is like putting on a "rubber". There are only certain ways a "rubber" goes on. Of course you could create holes in a "rubber" and that could lead to some serious problems. Just sayin. I think that other people have also shown (in videos) dice spinning around in a caliper showing "unbalanced" dice. You can surf the internet and find these other videos showing unbalanced dice. I thought just how "silly" it was for somebody to say that "Harley put either dirt or "shit" on the dice by handling them. How do the casinos test their dice without putting "shit" on the dice when placed in the caliper? Do they put gloves on before handling their dice? So there must be a training class for using calipers and putting in dice correctly? Just sayin.

 

The shit test. From now on, all dice must pass The Shit Test...

 

Just one more sock puppet, that once again is calling others names.It can get real ugly, when the only thing you can do is call someone names. There is more to the snakeyes story then what has bveen posted! I really don't think that he wants it all told. But I see that he like you post there Mr i just started posting on the board and have never been seen on any other board, but I'm not a scck puppet.

http://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/consumer-warning-heavys-biased-dice.1393/#post-5085


Maybe someone will have a few drinks and we will see where this goes. I can't wait to get back to Vegas so I can take this in a different

 

Funny these guys just pop up, and the big man can't write for himself. My advice to Heavy and anybody else is to buy one of the most expensive calibers they can buy then do a video where the dice spin freely. So they can show the craps playing world that every die a casino will use is perfect, just like the hobbies Heavy is telling everybody.

 

LoL Tony ... It's amazing that Heavy and Irish would have you believe every casino uses laboratory gloves while testing dice ... Not to mention that the Stickman cleans the shxt off the dice from the previous tosser before he/she passes them to you

Yea right

 

Oh you miss my point. The shit test only applies to a selective few such as Harley...
I am just saying...

 

Just received Heavy's 2015 Dice for your viewing pleasure:

 

In the Thread 2015 Axis Power Craps Dice are IN!, Heavy states:

 

Looks very,very, fishy. 1. Blocked out serial numbers for test but show it on some sitting dice. 2. No CSI gloves to avoid contamination from crappy hands. 3. History of credibility issues with tester (I.e., snake eye email fiasco).

 

poor fish (sock puppet for irish) there is an old saying:

fish - is that all you have to argue with Mother Nature and the cheap dice you have to sell ... I will let you and your partner in crime save those weak-ass arguments for the Texas Attorney General's Office - Consumer Protection Division


after all the evidence is handed over to the Texas Attorney General office ... well, you know the irony of it all is that Harley may actually force Heavy to move out of Texas to Vegas ... all to the dismay of Heavy's wife

 

Mr. Harley
You finally convinced me. Convinced me to buy a ship load of Heavy's dice. If your full of crap (which is highly likely) then I'll have plenty of high quality dice to use for practice but if in the remote chance you're correct then Vegas here I come. I'll be well prepared to conquer according to you the land of the crappy dice. It is a win-win purchase. Anyways enough of this stupidity, l'm going fishing.

 

Poor fish (irish) - your fish eyes can't see the black laboratory gloves in the video ... just because you or Heavy (MisterAK) or SnakeEyes post something doesn't make it true

 

Poor fish (irish) - you still don't get it .... just because your partner-in-crime is peddling off a bunch of cheap dice does not mean they are exactly the same weighted dice as Casinos order .... I refer you to a book that you handed out for your own seminar with your buddy Frank Scoblete and partner-in-crime Heavy in Las Vegas on September 20, 2002:

Below is a chart from page 15 of the 1927 book "How to Control Fair Dice" showing how dice can be unbalanced in 26 different combinations -- how do we know which imbalance we are playing with today compared to tomorrow.


If you worked in Casino Risk Management, you would know exactly which dice combination gave you the best profit margin compared to balanced dice. Also, to prevent customers from taking advantage of a certain bias in dice, Casinos are changing the bias from one shift to the next. Even after a hot roll, the dice may be changed immediately to a different bias. Why would casinos ever need to change dice so often if all dice were created equal ?! According to the Nevada Gaming Commission, dice are so much more durable now that they can be used for more than 24 hours without showing discernible wear.

Also, we are finding more Casinos using a stick of dice that has several different loads - that not all dice in the same stick are equal. How do you know which 2 dice loads you have just picked up to roll with gives you which combination of numbers ?!! ... Is this the reason you just rolled 4 hardways on your first toss but you cannot even roll a hardway on your 2nd toss because you're using 2 different dice with different probabilities !!

The 2 certain dice that you're using on your 1st toss may produce a 25 roll. However, the 2 dice you picked out the 2nd time may be unbalanced differently and assist in a PSO or much shorter roll with your same set on the same table. It's harder to maintain consistency if you are not using the same equipment.

This was confirmed by the Bee dice factory plant manager as he gave us tour explaining to us that each casino has a different secret formula for their own dice. Now why should that be if all dice were created equal ?!!

 

There are TWO types of unbalanced casino craps dice used:

1. Biased to the 6-1 where the SRR is 4.5.
2. Biased to the 2-5 where the SRR is 5.9 but the shooter rolls far more non-paying craps rolls than normal.

Either set is bad for the Do's players and the Don'ts players get hammered on the Coming out rolls or 4/10 points getting hit far more than average, thus losing those 2 for 1 bets.

Indian casinos are the worst for using such dice 100% of the time. It has been reported that some LV/Reno casinos use them on heavy traffic nights, fight nights and other event nights and some use them on and off though out the week.

Only by tracking the dice (1,000 rolls) can you determine what sort of dice the casinos uses, if they are using bias dice at all.

It is very difficult to beat bias dice. There are a few ways I have developed and have been testing with much success, however I just advise that if you think the casino is using bias dice, walk away from the table- don't play.

 

MisterAK does not fish. Nor do I just shoot long guns. I am also an accomplished bow hunter and guide. I called Heavy this evening to discuss a Nambian Gemsbok bowhunting safari I am organizing for later this year. Heavy was not interested in shooting a Gemsbok, and naturally the discussion moved on to our favorite indoor sport - craps. Heavy mentioned that he'd seen Harley's 2015 Axis Power Craps Dice Spin Test on the dice with serial number 1524 and, based on Harley's results, he is now going to offer Las Vegas Half-Brain Trust Certified Biased Dice, manufactured by the same company that makes biased dice for your favorite casino. These dice will be available in sets of two sticks. There will be a $6 per stick Biased Dice surcharge over his regular priced dice, plus additional shipping and handling fees. After all, since Biased Dice are unbalanced (like Harley) they are more difficult to deliver. Postal trucks keep turning over. Letter carriers fall down. Special handling required!

Clearly Harley is doing much to contribute to Heavy's bottom line.

 

so which dice are you selling that are "certified by the manufacturer to be perfectly balanced" - the unbalanced dice or the balanced dice ??