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Roulette Do roulette machines know the number in advance

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Jerry Adams, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. Jerry Adams

    Jerry Adams New Member

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    Hi, I was wondering whether there's some agreement on this topic - does the software of the roulette machine know in advance the number where the ball will land? Do they use that in any way? Does the roulette count all bets and then try to maximize house profit? Is there consensus on that in the gambling community? Cheers!
     
  2. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    They are computer controlled, they may be able to detect which numbers carry the biggest bet, whether that influences the air-pressure is up for debate. I started playing on these after due to th4e amount of heat I was getting at the tables as I was winning all the time. Boy did I struggle on those fucking machines, awful devices, avoid them unless they are hooked up to a live table.

    This is also a debate I asked behind the scenes with Alfred Baker, I dropped in the question and asked Baker what size wager he plays at, Baker replied $1, then I realised I was dealing with a nut-case, true story bro.
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

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    Those air ball machines are a big fake .Avoid them.
     
  4. THR33 X THR33

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    I have mixed feelings on this subject.
    In the online world you can often see weird trajectories of the ball that seem to defy physical logic, some good examples on YT, suggesting that the ball is intended to land in a pre determined pocket, both from studios with a live dealer and the auto-roulette games. However, not being able to see any chips on the table means we can't see if the ball avoids the "worst" winning number or hits the "best" losing number (from the casino's point of view). My take on it is that as I can win on the live dealer tables, certainly within expectation, but regularly lose on the airball ones (not any more, I don't play on them now). Or is that just another Gamblers Fallacy? only play at a table where you've won, don't play where you've lost. I suppose I mean that, yes, I think some are predetermined but if it's not being used to cheat then I'm not worried.
     
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  5. SPIKE

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    It's not up for debate at all, they are just a glorified slot machine that has to win a certain amount of money for the casino and to do that it will pick a section with the least amount of bets and put the ball in that section. This is not up for debate, it's a fact.



    My name is not 'Baker' you cretin, on this forum it's Spike. Keep it up and I'll think up a good name for you that you for sure will not like. I have explained this so even your tiny mind can understand it a dozen times, I was betting $1 because I was testing the machine and that was the minimum bet. If the minimum bet would have been $0.10 that's what I would have been betting. It turns out the machine was fixed and I avoided them after that. What is so hard to understand about that, could you really be this stupid?
     
  6. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    That was both the email name and eBay ID, with a gap of approx 15 years between the two, okay Alfred,

    Heard the same lame excuse from many broke-ass fools over the years, "I'm testing"
     
  7. SPIKE

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    Some name I used 20 years ago is not the name I use here. Keep it up and I guarantee I will come up with a name for you that you will not like. And I will use it every time I address you. All this is because of your childish response to the fact that I can beat roulette and you can't. What an immature baby you are. That might be a good name for you, Immature Baby Johno. Has a certain ring to it, The Ring Of Truth.

    What kind of an idiot would play one of those screwy air ball machines without testing it first. That's right, by your own admission you did! Not being as obviously stupid as you I tested it first and good thing I did because it's crooked as hell.
     

  8. Junket King

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    That's right, because I was getting too much heat from the live tables, due to me betting more than $1 per spin, I was constantly winning, "basically every day", so I knew what I was doing worked, so should work on the machines, it didn't , old man Baker.
     
  9. SPIKE

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    But I was smart enough not to bet real money until I found out if it was for real. You just dived right in like the dope you are. LOL Immature Baby Johno, what a joke you are.
     
  10. Keyser Soze

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    There are ways to test them without using real money.

    I thought you do virtual bets???
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

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    Post #1, a question.

    Post #2, an answer.

    Post #3, a statement not answering the question.

    Post #4, (mine) an answer.

    Post #5, another statement, neither so far with an attempt at any explanation.

    Post #6 onwards and the descent into "cretin" "broke-ass fool" "idiot," and people wonder why forums like this are dying out. :(
     
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  13. SPIKE

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    It's impossible to test a machine with virtual bets, you have to use real money. And you have to do something it doesn't like, you have to use a progression. These things are programmed to shut you down if it detects you using a progression. And it's so obvious when they do it you can't win a single bet. You see people winning large amounts on these machines all the time just like you see people winning large amounts on slot machines, it doesn't mean anything. If you play it consistently you cannot win. A dead giveaway that these are just slot machines is if you win over a certain amount a slot attendant has to come around and pay you in cash and make you fill out one of those tax forms. If this was real roulette it would just pay you. In fact that's how I found out that the machines are fixed, I asked the casino employee and they told me it's registered with the state as a slot machine because it runs on an algorithm to keep a certain amount of money for itself as profit. You are not seeing random outcomes.
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  14. SPIKE

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    Evolution Gaming offers Auto Roulette and it's a joke. The minimum bet is $0.10 so it's easy to test it. You can win a little bit but it always gets it back and if you start using a progression it goes crazy you will lose 10 times in a row.
     

  15. Junket King

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    Ok so airball machines MIGHT target the biggest bettor, so super sleuth Baker comes along and plays $1 units in order to test this theory, haha.

    Figures,,,

    There is simply too much bullshit from too many old timers who went broke decades ago and now live our the rest of their days on gambling boards re-writing the script of their destitute existence into glorious fantasies.
     
  16. Keyser Soze

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    I’m with you on that.
    The only time that I would be playing on one of those is if it’s a slow day at a casino and only one table opened. Roulette tables here where I am at only let 3 people max at a table.

    They do have somewhat their pros & cons.

    Pros
    • If you have a complex strategy, you could always hit the re-bet button.
    • You can switch to different denominations easily.
    • It offers a racetrack layout to easily see neighbours on the wheel.
    • No errors on payouts.
    Cons
    • Takes forever loading money into the machine.
    • Can easily read the wrong bet if your slightly off when placing your bet.
    • Got to place your bets before time expires.
    • Touch screen not reading your bets.
    There’s prolly plenty of more, but these are the ones I personally ran into.
     

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