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Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Wizardofnothing, Jul 23, 2016.

  1. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    I appreciate that
     
  2. whodat

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    I meant gambling information.
     

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  3. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    and i appreciate that
     
  4. whodat

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    ok. Thought you were being sarcastic because you do post on the sports site. It's just that I am currently interested in learning about slots--not to play them at an advantage but rather to play them judiciously to obtain better comps.When football season starts I will wander more into the sports forum.
     
  5. Mickey Crimm

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    whodat, by quick strike I take it to mean Mystery Progressives. I'll start a thread over in the slot forum on Mystery Progressives.
     
  6. AxelWolf

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    Larry's jaw would drop if I did post up all the pictures and talked and told stories. Some things would probably make some people sick. I hate to talk about too much stuff publicly because the stuff I have done and do ends up coming back up agian, I don't want to educate people on how to play something or what they should be looking for. Take edge sorting for example. I would bet most people never even thought about or heard of it before the Phil Ivey, but it seems so simple if you think about it. Of course actually finding it and playing it is the hard part.

    Look the Plaza promo they just didn't hat exact same promo a year or so before across the street. Had I played that and them told people what and how I played it. People would have over run the Plaza and and they

    I would rather not create competition. Especially when there are things that require very little bankroll and have a high earn. Since everyone doesn't understand slots VP or BJ let me give an example everyone can probably understand.....

    Pretend you have a casino thats offering a deal if you are one of the first 30 people to put up 30k in front money and keep it there the entire season (unless you lose it all) they will double pay you on your first bet if you win up to 15k(you could even hedge off if you wanted). How simple is that? (And yes there has been things like that.) Now if you start thinking a bit how you can really take advantage of something like this, as long as you can come up with the seed money and afford to invest it for the season you are golden.
    It seems like anyone could do something like that and make money.

    Most things are more complicated than that some things are. Sorry hit send didn't mean to and now my 5 min will be up and I'm on a plane taking off
     
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  7. AxelWolf

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    Larry's jaw would drop if I did post up all the pictures and talked and told stories. Some things would probably make some people sick. I hate to talk about too much stuff publicly because the stuff I have done and do ends up coming back up agian, I don't want to educate people on how to play something or what they should be looking for. Take edge sorting for example. I would bet most people never even thought about or heard of it before the Phil Ivey, but it seems so simple if you think about it. Of course actually finding it and playing it is the hard part.

    Look the Plaza promo they just didn't hat exact same promo a year or so before across the street. Had I played that and them told people what and how I played it. People would have over run the Plaza and or the Plaza would have changes it bef

    I would rather not create competition. Especially when there are things that require very little bankroll and have a high earn. Since everyone doesn't understand slots VP or BJ let me give an example everyone can probably understand.....

    Pretend you have a casino thats offering a deal if you are one of the first 30 people to put up 30k in front money and keep it there the entire season (unless you lose it all) they will double pay you on your first bet if you win up to 15k(you could even hedge off if you wanted). How simple is that? (And yes there has been things like that.) Now if you start thinking a bit how you can really take advantage of something like this, as long as you can come up with the seed money and afford to invest it for the season you are golden.
    It seems like anyone could do something like that and make money.

    Most things are more complicated than that some things are w
     

  8. whodat

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    Thanks Mickey
     
  9. AxelWolf

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    Sorry I had accidentally prematurely hit post reply without cleaning it up and finishing then I ran into the 5 min edit rule and had to go. I can't even remember what I wanted to say or who I was talking to but I assume I was adding to MC's post. I'll bold up the added parts.

    Larry's jaw would drop if I did post up all the pictures, talked and told stories. Some things would probably make some people sick. I'm sure if I had a book the stories would rival Dancers while adding a bigger variety of things. I'm not a good writer, I don't work both sides nor do I wish to educate the masses. I hate to talk about too much stuff publicly, because the stuff I have done and do sometimes(oftentimes) ends up coming back up again, again I don't want to educate people on how to play something or what they should be looking for. Take edge sorting for example, I would bet most people never even thought about or heard of it before the Phil Ivey, but it seems so simple if you think about it. Of course actually finding it and playing it is the hard part.

    Look the Plaza promo they just didn't hat exact same promo a year or so before across the street. Had I played that and then told people what and how I played it. People would have over run the Plaza now knowing what to target and or the Plaza would have changed everything before the promotion started, even the so called experts an other AP's missed the good plays at Plaza. Math only gets you so far, knowing what games to play and thinking outside the box helps significantly then do, or have someone do the math and confirm.

    I would rather not create competition. Especially when there are things that require very little bankroll and have a high earn. Since everyone doesn't understand slots VP or BJ let me give an example everyone can probably understand.....

    Pretend you have a casino that's offering a deal where if you are one of the first 30 people to put up 30k in front money and keep it there the casino the entire season (unless you lose it all) they will double pay you on your first bet if you win up to 15k simply make one big bet and stop, I wouldn't stop unless that bet lost, I would just drop my bets significantly (you could even hedge off if you wanted). How simple is that? (And yes there has been things like that.) Now if you start thinking a bit how you can really take advantage of something like this, as long as you can come up with the seed money and afford to invest it for the season you are golden.
    It seems like anyone could do something like that and make money. Organizing and having people you can trust and count on significantly magnifies the amount you can make(employees, friends, family etc).Not to mention they have to trust you. Then having good partners who can help make sure everyone is doing everything properly to make sure you and you're people are part of the first 30 becomes absolutely paramount. You can have 1 person running up there with a group of people and begin doling out 15k to each person because It would end immediately or you might get tossed out. Sometimes there's complicated rules and methods you need to follow, and the average non AP wouldn't understand how to get it done properly.

    Most things are way more complicated than that with more variance.
     
  10. Mickey Crimm

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    I haven't been in the Plaza in 9 years. I have no clue what their games are these days. But on the Plaza promotion, just off the top of my head, I would be looking at three-reel, 3-coin, $5 denom slots with hits that pay 80 or 90 for 1. An 80 for 1 hit would pay $1200 and get a W2-G. I have no idea what the max bet is on 20 card keno. But I would be looking to see if I could load all 20 cards with the same numbers, like on a 4-spot. The frequency on the solid four is just 326. If it payed 80 for 1 and you could get in a $15 bet it would pay $1200. This is just examples of stuff I would be looking for.
     
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  11. AxelWolf

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    Plaza has very little higher limit stuff(they took off the $25 slots and$5 VP) and a low variety of games. They did have 95%.25 keno and it was also played. No 20 card. There was better not obvious stuff.
     

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