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TurboGenius Dr Sir Anyone-Anyone repeats average.

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Mar 23, 2023.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Dr Sir Anyone-Anyone repeats average.

    Why the doctor? He supplied from his extensive collection of live spins, 10’330 spins.

    The average for repeats was.

    Spins 1-10; 1 repeat.

    Spins 11-20; 3 repeats.

    Spins 21-30; 5 repeats.

    Spins 31-40; 7 repeats.

    So, repeats are 1-4-9-16. 16 repeats over 40 spins.

    Now if we look at his colleagues Law of the third; which he pours scorn on. We know the 37 spins is usually 24 non-hits and 13 repeats.

    So, 3 extra spins, gets 3 more repeats.

    It also showed how 60 spins has a score of 30/30; 30 non-hits and 30 repeats.

    This repeats average happens for his touted random dot org, air-ball spins and even German spins from Wiesbaden and RNG. 1-3-5-7-30

    Now, the advantage with repeats.

    If, worst case scenario happens zero repeats in 20 spins. How many of the 20 hit once will you be covering?

    If, the opposite arises, you have 2 or even better 3 repeats. Think of the repeats average supplied by the DSAA. 10 spins usually have none or one repeat.
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    So, 7 spins and 2 repeats, already better than the average of 1. Why carry on? Look no more repeats.

    Options? Next 10 spins usually has 3 repeats, but remember you are already plus one for repeats.

    Or start a fresh.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Seems no one has any thoughts to repeats; unless we look too Turbo. But, is what he shows of any help?

    The DSAA will say absolutely of no benefit for winning.

    Here is Game 1 of 185 spins of his 10’330 live spins.

    The opening post showed how these 10’330 spins showed what the average for repeats are. 1-3-5-7&30 over 60 spins.

    The 31-40; the coding is wrong and Priyanka said to try something, but it never showed the correct amount of non-hits.

    So, how many did hit over 40 spins. It shows 28+13. It should read 28+3. Why +3?

    The 30 spins, 11-40 where average shows, 3-5-7=15. 15 repeats from 30 spins must mean 15 of the remaining non-hits, hit.

    Now spins 1-10 was 10/10 no repeat. So, at spin 40 we expect 25 of the starting 37 to have hit. 10+15=25. 28 non-hits showed, so, +3; 3 more than 25.

    Over the 60 spins non-hits were fast, ending +2, 2 more than the expected 30 non-hits.

    Now, Priyanka made the tester as I said betting non-hits with +1/-1 usually can make 50/+50 units.

    The bank at spin 17 shows +51 units. Why carry on?

    Now, if you can’t stop, let’s say you tried to win big.

    All starting 37 non-hits, hit by spin 180 and shows a loss of 804 units.

    60 spins here showed +429.
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    Game 2

    Remember, 8+15=23. 40 spins ends, with 25 of the starting 37, making +2 for non-hits.

    How did the 185 spins end? Well spin 151 shows +3325, all starting 37 hit.
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    Here we see the worst start for spins 1-10.

    Wow, only 5 of the starting 37 have shown. 5 repeats.

    Okay, 5+15=20. At spin 40 could have 20 of the starting 37 show. Well, we see 22+7, should read 22+2. So, even with such a bad start non-hits showed better.

    Spin 140 all 37 starting non-hits have showed +2796

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    You see 1st loss. Change attack from readings of advantage. Another loss.
    Again change way for betting for repeats and another loss.

    Okay, what does the DSSA show for repeats? The average is 1-3-5-7&30/60.
    It also shows in live german spins, airball and even RNG.

    Just working with 1-3-5-7&30

    41 games betting for repeats and working with the 1-3-5-7&30
    When will R-sim give 25 consecutive non-hits?
    How would you handle 1st 25 spins and no repeat.
    How many horses will you use?
    3 or the 9 Turbo has mentioned

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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    You see could stopped spin 7. Non-hits keep showing.
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    8 repeats for 29 spins. 30 spins usually has 9 repeats.
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    Well 9 repeats.
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    Do you need anymore
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Another 10 games
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    Thanks, but unfortunately I don't understand part of the strategy. Perhaps this is due to the translator,confusingly.
    And another question - why 10-20-30-40-60. Why not add 50?
     
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    Hi S.

    It all comes from betting for non-hits.

    Way back I started collecting games played on RNG; English bookmakers/betting shops.

    I had a paper sheet that had enough space for 60 spins. Some streams had 180 plus numbers and would use 3 sheets.

    Now, way back over at RF, a member asked what the file posted was all about. Well, I explained that what you could see was all non-hits, from say the 7th up to perhaps the 34th non-hit. It also showed the average to hit for non-hits plus the max to hit for each non-hit.

    This bookmakers RNG average for non-hits showed over 60 spins the average was for 1st 40 spins was 9-7-5-3=24 of the starting 37 hit over 40 spins.

    Think of what GUT shows? It shows the larger group depleting.

    Well, isn’t 9 non-hits in 1st 10 spins the larger group depleting. Still in spins 11-20 aren’t the larger group depleting. The section 21-30 shows here it is a 50/50 section of both repeats and non-hits. 31-40 shows it’s more chance of repeats. Plus 41-60 on average only 13 non-hits remain.
    This member never seen or heard from again. But, after the conversation, the bookies RNG kept changing. By this I mean the max to hit kept changing.

    For your benefit, after 19 non-hits have shown; the average to hit is 3 spins up to the 26th non-hit. Then up to the 30th non-hit they have an average of 4 spins to hit.

    If, the stream is running fair at 40th spin, showing 24 have hit at least once. Then 2 of the remaining could hit to their average of 3 spins. After this, then the 4 non-hits needed to have 30 shown, could hit to their average of 4 spins.

    So, 3-3; 4-4-4=18 spins. Of the spins 41-60 you could have 5 of the remaining non-hits show, still with 2 spins left. So, at 58 spins there could
    be 29 of the starting 37 hit at least once.

    Now the average is not writ in stone.

    If you want to try blocks of 60 spins; go to RF in testing zone the topic KTF and at bottom of page 80 is Priyanka’s tester. The tester shows in the checkpoint box the score for non-hits.

    Person S, the 50th spin was never given consideration. Only spins 1-40 & 41-60.
     
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    As explained in reply #2.
    Checkpoint 31-40 should read 25,+2. 8+15=23. The 60 spins shows correct, 29 of the starting 37 hit at least once.
    See spin 23, +56 units I'd stop.
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    If non-hits average is 9-7-5-3; then the repeats are 1-3-5-7.
    Remember at the start of any stream it's the larger group, why all to often you have only 1 repeat.

    Forgot the 60 spins above are todays spins table 4 wiesbaden
     
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    And Person S -by 'non-hits' Naughty means singles = 1-time hits, no non-hits = sleepers, if that part was confusing to you.
    Cheers and thanks for the interesting thread.
     
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    Players have tried Vaddi with added rules as the topic went on. Parings nah.
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    In the above it asks when do doubles start.

    At the beginning the larger group. Average says 1 repeat in spin 1-10.
    The middle, we'd say we're in the 5 repeats area 21-30.
    Towards the end must be 31-40, 7 repeats.

    I'll leave Vaddi alone, waste of time.
     
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    Yeah, I was never able to wrap my head around Vaddi's system. Especially the pairing idea. Why would 1 come with 2 more often than with 17 or 32? If you want pairs why not just play splits? I've once even read the whole "Vaddi solved' thread of RF (75 pages or so)... Spoiler: it was not solved. Not much value there.
    Happy Easter to all celebrating.
     

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    Thank you all Happy Holidays.
    It would be nice for Notto to find a programmer - to tell in full the decision-making algorithm. In the first 10 spins there is no bet, in spins 11-20 some bets already appear - it depends on the replay statistics, etc. (I think it's not that difficult) And look at these 40 game spins.
     
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    Yes, thanks, I have been reading forums for 5 years, I saw the Notto system, but paid little attention. Now some understanding has come, but not completely. I think you need to read more. It has its thin spots.
    I don’t know if she will win all the time, but let her be in the piggy bank.
    original system.
     
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    In general, you can throw out the first 10 spins if they have more than 3 repetitions. Just wait for new ones where 1-2 or 3 repetitions. Just a thought...
     
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    Some might not get the checkpoints.

    Over collections of many 60 plus spin games. I wanted to know how fast the non-hits from the starting 37 hit.

    Now for reasons of staking in the UK bookmakers, it was better to start after 10 spins. Could bet starting with 27 numbers or even 28-29; dependent on how many non-hits showed in spins 1-10.

    The unicorn/dinosaur the Dr Sir anyone anyone with his posted live 10’330 spins, shows non-hits average to hit in 9-7-5-3 and at 60 spins 30 non-hits.

    So, we know it is possible that 1 repeat could show in spins 1-10.

    The spins 11-20 usually has 7 of the remaining non-hits; must mean 3 repeats.

    Spins 21-30 usually has 5 repeats and 5 of the remaining non-hits.

    Spins 31 -40 usually has 7 repeats and only 3 of the remaining non-hits.

    So, the 40 spins usually have 24 of the starting 37 and 16 repeats.

    If we look at spins to 11-40; 30 spins in total. 15 of the spins would be non-hits 7-5-3=15.

    We could say in stead of 7-5-3 we should get an even distribution of

    5-5-5=15.

    So, the checkpoints over 11-40 works on 5; be it repeats or non-hits.
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    11-20, shows 7, +2 means 7 of the remaining came not 5.

    21-30, reads 12, +2. As the blocks of 10 spins expect 5+5 non-hits, here it should say 10, +0 but 5 non-hits showed; 7+5=12, so, +2 again.

    In spins 31-40, we’d expect an even 5+5+5=15 non-hits; but we can see 17+2; means 17 of the remaining non-hits came.

    Now if we say 9+15=24; So, 9+17=26, +2

    At 60 spins 30 of the starting have shown, just 7 to find.
     
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    Here we see 60 spins from 129 spins.
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    Did the larger group not do what is expected; like Gut shows.
    Is there an advantage in betting repeats?
     
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    yep, they swarm ..."Coincidental Change."
     
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