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Roulette Flat 4 from Mr J

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by BETJACK, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. BETJACK

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    Credit to Ken from Roulette.cc:

    Easy to play and flat betting. Only 4 numbers to bet. I have great results at Dublin, only practice money. Also great results playing at the casino, 00 wheel. What bugs the hell out of me? Are the nay-sayers that will play it anyways or at minimum, will test it out. I debated FOR WEEKS, if I wanted to post it but what the heck!

    I'll list the 9 sets of numbers >>

    0 wheel
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    A) 5-6-22-32
    B) 15-18-24-27
    C) 13-16-19-29
    D) 4-7-33-36
    E) 1-11-21-28
    H) 2-12-20-30
    J) 8-14-25-35
    K) 3-17-23-31
    L) 9-10-26-34....(No 0 in the mix)

    9 sets for the 00 wheel >>
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    A) 0-00-17-18
    B) 5-6-27-28
    C) 9-10-21-22
    D) 25-26-33-34
    E) 15-16-29-30
    H) 3-4-11-12
    J) 7-8-23-24
    K) 19-20-35-36
    L) 13-14-31-32 (No 1 or 2 in the mix)

    Notice something with the sets of numbers (either wheel), the numbers are all spaced out evenly. To start off >> Track the first 18 spins. I will use the SINGLE zero wheel for this example. 20 hits: write H.

    32 hits: write A
    34 hits: write L
    1 hits: write E
    0 hits: write...nothing. etc etc until you have 18 tracked NOT counting if a 0 hits OR a 1 or 2 on the 00 wheel.

    We have read, perhaps played methods regarding a TREND for the outside bets, correct? Well, this is TREND betting for the inside, 4 numbers.

    I use to bet on the furthest back unhit set but lost too much so I CORRECTED the mistake, just like you're suppose to. If the spins are fast, you must always be looking at your list of 18 so you can DECIDE fast enough.

    We will be betting on the 'letter' (4 numbers) that have appeared the MOST in the last 18 recorded, real simple. In other words.....what is temporarily HOT at the time. Flat bet those 4 numbers with the *SAME* unit sizes per spin. I do it at $15 per, $60 per spin.

    As each NEW 'letter' you jot down, cross off the furthest back hit 'letter'. You will always have 18. Never more, never less. What about a tie? Usually (not always) it will be 4 hits within the 18 recorded.

    Sometimes it might be a TIE with 3 or even 4. Take either one as a tie breaker (base it on nothing) but NOT both sets of 4. In terms of averages, we only need one hit in 9 spins...which means 2 hits within the 18 spins.

    Anything over the 2 hits, is profit. Quite a few times you will have 5-6 hits within the 18. What I like about this method.....as one set is becoming cold (dropping out of the 18) a DIFFERENT set is now becoming hot and you will be on it. I also like the idea of spreading out the 4 numbers evenly. As soon as that ball passes one of your bet numbers, its coming up in only a few more pockets on another one of your bets! When to leave/quit? Its up to you. This method has NOTHING to do with sessions.

    SIDENOTE: You noticed I skipped a couple letters. The 'F' and the 'G'. But why?

    Again, I corrected a problem. The C and G look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast. The E and F look too much alike, I was making mistakes if I was looking too fast.

    4 in one group, 4 in another group? I would SKIP betting until the tie is broken, it won't take long! Like I said, I NOW track the last 13 hit, not 18. It cuts down alot on ties.

    "meanwhile other numbers/letters becoming hot" >>> BINGO, this is the POINT of the method. As one group may start to fade, another group really takes off. There are quite a few times I see 7 of the same letter within the 13 recorded. Of course all 7 of those you most likely would not be on but perhaps 3-4 of those spins, YES, you would be betting on those four numbers. After THAT group kind of fades, usually (not always) something else takes its place and dont forget, all four numbers are spread out on the wheel perfectly.
     
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  2. BlueAngel

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    Where have you found this small diamond?!
    Pretty good, especially if you combine up to 3 groups, when the distribution of balls are well spread around the wheel it would be better to go with 2 groups, total 8 numbers, or even 3 groups of 12 numbers in total.
    Flat bet is good for this kind of betting, you might also consider extending the betting duration per total: for 4 numbers up to 3 cycles, for 8 numbers up to 2 cycles and for 12 numbers up to 1 cycle.
     
  3. mr j

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    OMG you guys. If this stuff is "decent", you would be BLOWN AWAY at my non-posted methods.

    $ ching $ ching $ ching all damn day!!!

    Ken
     
  4. Sharptracker

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    Please Betjack, keep going and come back to tell if it still works after 6months/ a year...

    Ken, i told you... the only fact that you change method means everything...

    Please tell me also the relationship between those numbers... are they mates? They know each other? Besides, this is going opposite way of what you say last time... You don't like to bet an even chance coz inside there are useless sleepers, and in your groups there will be useless sleepers as well...

    No no, you're right... this is crap :)
     
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  5. mr j

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    Can I get the YEAR that was posted?
     
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    This year, i remember i read you telling this to Gizmotron if i remind well... You said you don't like bet on a colour coz inside it there are numbers that you don't want to bet.
     
  7. delectus

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    I have been using sets for years and they are excellent. I previously mentioned them
    in another thread, but no one was interested. Anyway for what it's worth I will
    produce some unusual sets for free! I use these with other sets the difficulty is
    trying to remember them all :confused:

    1-4-13-22
    2-7-18-24
    3-6-9-28
    5-12-21-27
    8-23-30-34
    10-20-29-32
    11-19-26-36
    14-15-25-33
    16-17-31-35
     
  8. BlueAngel

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    The sets you spoke of are only 4 numbers in total?
    According to which criteria do you categorize your groups?
    MrJ's groups are regarding wheel's positions, not like Numerology or Finales.
     
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    BlueAngel my sets are the result of a complex manipulation of numbers, but although
    they look to have nothing in common there is a definite link, as does all my sets.

    If you look at a basic set 4-13-22-31 this a digit sum set = 4. As long as all sets are
    treated in the same sort of way they are a valid set.
     
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  10. Sharptracker

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    I'm sure that after xxxxx years when human will have study all systems that he'll restart and check them all again (in case)
     
  11. Sputnik

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    BetJack I am not saying this makes a difference, but I want to mention it because I like this method by MR J
    When I play this method at my local casino I won.

    Four numbers have 50% probability to hit once within 6 attempts.
    That is the binomial estimation.

    After that, the odds get worse.
    That could be one idea to have a parameter for those hot numbers and maybe you can create a trigger.

    Cheers
     
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  12. Sputnik

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    BetJack - we might add some old physics into this - most people I talk to say is not working with today's wheels.
    But I will upload the method from Pierre Baisuex that use 4x4 binomial pattern and dealers release using distances.

    What strikes me, is the clever way to visually show the connection between numbers on the layout with the wheels number ring.
    Let's say you have a wheel signature that wins or want to hide your way playing visual ballistics, that is a really good way to hide what you're doing.

    See attachment.
    Also, add an explanation for the random criteria of the selection with the optimal selection that create a march.
     

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  13. BlueAngel

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    Thanks for sharing Sputnik, glad to see something more than silly comments and useless criticism.
     
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    BlueAngel

    You see one person claim he won 50.000$ and talk about success, but never did this person share how he bet or share any strategy.
    That is pure nonsense.

    You see one person claim he won flat betting and talk about success, but never did this person share how he bet or share any strategy.
    That is pure nonsense.

    You see several persons on daily basis having nothing better then what you can find on the internet or public forum.

    Cheers
     
  15. BlueAngel

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    What if someone won 1,000,000 on lottery, would that be useful and practical information??
    Something which anyone could learn and do consistently??
    Anyone could claim anything, it doesn't matter who says something but what he says.
    You see tens of thousands of views on threads like "wait for a dozen to miss 3 times and then bet it for other 3...", wait to sleep this, wait to sleep that...and they have found the solution to everything those geniuses!
    Judging by the number of readers on such moronic topics I'm afraid that we're surrounded by idiots, soon there will be nobody to speak with!
     
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    " I give you illusions but no solutions". quote by EVITA PERON of Argentina .
     
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    “My non posted methods”

    Lmao! Typically means nada
     
  18. mr j

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    lol, its a scale/ladder. If that goes over your head, then I'm right, still right. Year after year after year, YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE YOUR GAME RG/EVERYONE ELSE. If you are NOT improving your game/overall NET results, stop playing TODAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. mr j

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    My mistake, I'm talking about the year I posted the above method. Work with me, I'm trying to make a point and trap you at the same time. Its a gift I have.

    Ken
     
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    Off to the casino, later !!!!

    Ken
     

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