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Roulette Forced Marthy!? Let see if u understand?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by beat-the-wheel, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Hi Gentlemen,
    and due respect to my Guru.

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    The Marthy is the BEST.. yet, MOST DANGEROUS betting staking.
    But as u see it, we STOP BET, when we have the plus ONE profit.

    Then if we do not stop at ONE unit, but force on, then what will happen?!

    Of course we must see what the
    permutation of next 10 spins, albeit the green=1024POSSIBLE permutation.

    The WORST=
    LLLLLLLLLL=-1023u losses.

    The BEST=
    wwwwwwwwww=+1023u profit.

    thus if we bet all 1024permutation on paper, we will get equilibrium.

    But the real play wont make profit, if the pesky green jump in, and, in Albalaha words...[as my English not good...]

    quote.
    "We can expect an equilibrium theoretically in a no house edge game and there is an equilibrium in all my combinations taken together but practically, a counterpart of an EC can be ahead of other and may remain so, even after a few million spins.
    We may remain above equilibrium, at equilibrium or below equilibrium for very long time and can't guess that even in a game of no house edge. "unquote.

    and..

    quote.
    "If you get more of wins to begin with and later successive losses, that can lead you to a net loss, at the end."
    unquote.

    thus the trillion dollar question,
    how to wait, skip, and hit, run to profit?

    let me make an example.
    I apply "KATTILA" stategy ,
    of stop-bet and skip when there two successive losses for EC.



    L=no bet
    L=nb
    L=nb
    W=nb
    L=bet=-1=-1
    W=bet=+2=+1
    L=bet=-4=-3
    W=bet=+8=+5
    W=bet=+16=+21
    L=bet=-32=-11
    ======================

    L=nb
    L=nb
    L=nb
    L=nb
    L=nb
    L=nb
    W=nb
    L=b=-1
    L=b=-2=-3
    L=nb




    Above a simple example how we can 'disturb' the equilibrium,
    and bet FORCED progression of MARTHY to win.
    But of course that only an oversimplified example in the wonderfulland.

    I think, in all 1024 permutation, of 10 next spins, albeit green, if we use some sort of disturbance, wait and skip./run strategy , we may see profit long term....losing a session and recoup by winning a few sessions.


    what u think???
    may applied in others staking progression too...
    ===============

    lest u accuse, I do not intend to make any single cent from anyone, I just a semi retired shopkepper, who happen to have much free time, just wanna learn and share.
     
  2. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    How about using FORCED progression of FIBBY

    1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55


    LLLWLWLWLL
    By applying "KATTILA" skipping strategy to bet possible 10spins permutation.

    L=nb
    L=nb
    L=nb
    W=nb
    L=b=-1=-1
    W=b=1=0
    L=b=-2=-2
    W=b=3=1
    L=b=-5=-6
    L=b=-8=-14
    ================
    L=nb
    L=nb
    W=nb
    L=b=-1=-1
    L=b=-1=-2
    L=nb
    W=nb
    L=b-2=-4
    W=b3=-1
    W=b5=+4
    ============

    W=nb=
    W=b1=1
    W=b1=2
    W=b2=4
    L=b-3=1
    L=b-5=-4
    L=nb=
    L=nb=
    L=nb=
    L=nb=
    =========

    L=nb
    W=nb
    L=b1
    W=b1
    L=b2
    W=b3
    L=b5
    W=b8
    L=b13
    W=b21
     
  3. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Buddy,
    The only key of winning randomness of thinking of long run. All your strategies should be meant for long run, if you ever dream of earning from gambling. Whatever you chose to bet may behave like #3 of zumma. If you have any sound plan that beats the likes of #3 or anything similar, you are a pro and will survive and prosper. All MMs and strategies suggested in various books and forums ignore the long run and hence are meant to fail itself.
     
  4. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Hi Albalaha,
    U always give thought provoking, or brain scraping answer!
    Ok, I do dream to become a pro,
    BUT,
    how long is 'long-run'???
    May it be 50spins, 100 spins, 200, 0r 300spins???
    Or just go on till in profit or cut losses?
    Please tell.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  5. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Long run is a span where there is no room for temporary deviations affecting the average hit rate. A thousand break evens i.e. 2000 spins for an EC bet should represent the "long run" roughly. Same concept goes with all bets. For example, 36k spins should represent long run for a straight up bet. The max deviation above house edge that you can find in this span is max 5%. If you can handle this 5% extra over house edge, in long run, by any strategy, you are a winner.

    One more noteworthy thing for you. You can play this long run through many mini sessions. Long run doesn't need you to play such long stretch at once. Maybe 10 or even 20 sessions that can be played by day to days, can be a part of that long run. Indeed, every spin/hand/trial is a very part of a "long run play".
     
  6. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    ok,ok,...
    I try very hard to understand what U mean.
    firstly, U mean that after a long-run, EC will 'toward the mean', albeit 5% max deviation.
    Then if u could avoid the disastrous long losing streak, then u could win,
    with some progression that will win, after the hit stabilize...
    and with some skipping and hit, we will win many seasons, and lose a few in between.

    But 36k, why 36k??? 2000spins? Duh!
    Maybe u mean after 2000spins we may see, that the win/loss and green will near equilibrium,
    max 5%...deviation?

    I cant even wait for 300spin in BM casino, where a spins costs 3 to 5 minute!
    But I do see in every 300 spins, there will be at least ONCE, at any EC, that will have long losing streaks, which impossible to win with any known staking method!
     
  7. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    That is why you are destined to lose.
    Maybe you did not read this:
     


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