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Roulette houliaras system extreme

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by tasos007007, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. tasos007007

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    houliaras system extreme
    before we see the system practise a system with 1 player .write 1 and bet 1
    chip to 18 numbers if you loose write 2 and bet 1 chip to 12 numbers because
    you use your 2nd chip and you need to win a dozen bet to get these 2 chips
    back making 1 chip profit if you loose write 3 and bet 1 chip to six nymbers
    so lets see what we shall bet according to how many chips we have used
    so if you loose write 4 and bet 1 chip to six numbers if you loose write 5
    and bet 1 chip to six numbers the next steps are write 6 bet 1 chip to four
    numbers write 7 and bet 1 chip to four numbers write 8 and bet 1 chip
    to four numbers write 9 bet 1 chip to three numbers write 10 bet 1 chip to
    three numbers write 11 bet 1 chip to three numbers write 12 bet 1 chip to
    two numbers 13,14,15,16,17-bet 1 chip to two numbers 18,19,20....33,34,35-
    bet 1 chip to one number 37 bet 2chips to one number similarly
    39,41,43,45...65,67,69,71 bet 2 chips to one number 74 bet three chips to
    one number similarly 77,80,83,86...101,104,107 bet three chips to one
    number 111 bet four chips to one number similarly
    115,119,123,127,131,135,139,143 bet four chips to one number
    148,153,158,163,168,173,178 bet 5 chips to one number
    184,190,196,202,208,214 bet 6 chips to one number and so on if you win then
    you shoud start from the begining

    now lets practise this system with 2 players the purpose is if there is a
    win then we clear the chips used by the first player so write 1-1 and bet
    2 chips to 36 numbers if loose write 2-2 and bet 2 chips to 24 numbers if
    loose write 3-3 and bet 2 chips to 18 numbers if loose write 4-4 bet 2 chips
    to twelve numbers ...5-5 bet 2 chips to twelve numbers ,6-6 bet 2 chips to
    eight numbers 7-7 bet 2 chips to eight numbers 8-8 bet 2 chips to eight
    numbers 9-9 2 chips to six numbers if we win now then we won 12 chips so we
    keep 1chip as a profit and with the rest 11 we clear the first player so we
    delete the 9 used chips and there are 2 chips left which we quarantine so
    now we have one player with 9 used chips so if we want to continue with 2
    players then we add a player so we write 10-1 that means the first player
    used 10chips and the second player now is betting his first chip so we bet
    2 chips to six numbers because we want to "clear" the first player with
    10 lost chips if we loose we write 11-2 and bet 2 chips to six numbers if we
    loose we write 12-3 and bet 2 chips to 4 numbers etc...

    now it is easy to practise the system with more players following the next
    rule when we loose then we ll add 1 player to the next spin and when we
    win then we "clear" the first player so the next apin we bet the rest
    players f.e. write 1 if loose write 2-1 if loose write 3-2-1 if loose write
    4-3-2-1 if loose write 5-4-3-2-1 if win then we clear the player with 5
    lost chips and we have four players 4-3-2-1 so now we write 5-4-3-2 etc...

    now lets see the system
    we split the numbers in 2 sections the first section is 1-18 and the 2nd is
    19-36 we bet at least 1 player to 19-36 and if he wins then we bet
    half +1 players to 19-36 lets see an example to see how it works
    if we have the following players 10-8-6-5-3 we bet 4 chips to 12 numbers
    from section 1-18 and one chip to 19-36 if we win we know to clear the
    first player with 10 lost chips if we loose then we add a player so we write
    11-9-7-6-4-1 and bet 5 chips to 15 low numbers and 1 chip to 19-36
    if 19-36 wins then we do this we use the 2 winning chips to keep the 2
    first players the same (10-8) we dont add player so we write 10-8-7-6-4 and
    we bet 2chips to 6 low numbers and 3 chips to 19-36 if 19-36 wins then we
    get 1 chip that we quarantine the purpose is to use the quarantined chips
    to finish the game when the total quarantined chips=total lost chips .also
    if 19-36 wins in that case the writing is 'frozen' that is we write again
    the same 10-8-7-6-4 and we play the same .in that betting where we bet
    half+1 players to 19-36 if we loose we dont add a player so we write
    11-9-8-7-5 and we bet 4chips to low numbers and only 1 player to 19-36
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The beginning of that post reminds me of my "Against All Odds" system which is somewhat
    coded on the RX site - although it's not perfect.
    Each location is played for it's expected number of spins to show.
    It actually works nicely - I see others coming out now with the same concept but calling
    it different things.

    Play a 1:1 even money bet for 2 spins, win = reset - lose = continue
    Play a 2:1 doz/column bet for 3 spins
    Play a 5:1 line bet for 6 spins
    Play a 8:1 corner bet for 9 spins
    Play a 11:1 street bet for 12 spins
    Play a 17:1 split bet for 18 spins
    Play a 35:1 straight up bet for 36 (or 37, 38) spins.
    The progression is the minimum required to produce a break even (+-0) or profit.
    It could be played by 2 players - one at one end (starting with LOW 1-18) and the other
    at the other end starting with (HIGH 19-36) and both following the same rules
    considering what's in-front of them at the table for betting locations.
     
  3. jbs

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    It's a loser just like every other system you use.
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've still never lost, not even once.
    Enjoy.
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Drat, throws this one away - it only wins. No use to me or anyone else.

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    Oh no, this is terrible.
    Everyone please listen to jbs (just bull shit) and the phony Doctor No one No one
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    5 bankrolls ahead, no problems in sight.
     

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    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Losing, losing and more losing :(
    6 1/2 bankrolls ahead. Blah. You can sure tell a stinky system when you see one right
    No one ?
     

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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Let me guess, you're playing in pretend mode still. LOL!
     
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    It's not a long term winning system.
     

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    Win or lose, this is also how I gauge. By BR's. Up or down.

    Ken
     
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  12. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Oh Dr. No Anyone, when will you ever learn.

    Meanwhile, at least your learning something..
    Behind all of your BS posts you're trying to find ways to win, and here I am
    handing them to you... your welcome. (You're not man enough to say it)
    You don't fool anyone.
     
  13. TurboGenius

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    Exactly right. More people should learn that rule when testing.
    What's the max it takes to win the amount showing.
    A chart up 2k with a 2k drawdown means nothing of value... you're basically playing even at best.
    When you can pile up 10+ bankrolls, there's really no need for those "10 million spins" tests
    as the anti's preach. If I lose 1 bankroll every time I win 10 of them - who cares ?
     
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    Mine are either $875 or $1,750 BR's.
     

  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Turbo,

    I think we'll classify this system as another "wins until" system.

    After all, why should it work?

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    Magic?

    Luck?
     

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  16. Nathan Detroit

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    Blessed be Dr. Martingale who makes winners out of losers .


    Dr. Sir A A knows when a system stinks and this one from BOTH creators STINKS from here to eternity .


    Nothing personal but the crappy bet selection process makes NO SENSE.


    NND
     
  17. TurboGenius

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    Sigh
    There's no Martingale.
    The chart shows exactly the opposite of what you two knuckleheads (oops, 3) are saying -
    which clearly shows that you have no idea how to win, what winning looks like and what a
    successful chart/test looks like. The selection makes perfect sense, obviously...
    It's strange for a certain few people to brag openly about how ignorant they are to
    what they are clearly shown - proving the only goal is to insult people who have done
    the work and nothing more. Why bother posting ? Just read and use it for your own benefit -
    which is exactly what the "naysayers" do. You aren't here to lead or help obviously -
    so read and learn, use what you've learned to win - and enjoy.
    Bragging about being ignorant makes you 3 really look quite....ignorant. If you're proud of that,
    then fine I suppose.

    You dopes are the kid in the class who goes up to the board where it says "4 + 4 = "
    and you write 11. Everyone laughs and you've done your job. It's sad that you have to do
    that to be acknowledged by anyone. I guess putting "8" wouldn't make you feel very special.
    Oh wait, write 11 and then call the teacher names.... that will have to work. It's sad.
    What a drag on the forums where people are trying to win and learn how to win.
    Carry on - you'll never change.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Turbo,

    Why do you feel the system above is a long term winner?
    Is it the bet selection?
    The progression?
    Can you put forth a reasonable explanation?
     
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  19. TurboGenius

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    I don't feel anything, I know math. I know probability and random.
    You wrote your "11" on the board, go back to your seat in the back and high-5 ND
    and jbs. You're a waste of my time. The readers who don't post understand it -
    no amount of nonsense from the class clowns removes the knowledge that people
    have gained. We just erase the "11" and the other 95% of people will understand the
    problem and how the answer comes about.
     
  20. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    If you know math, then can you demonstrate mathematically why the bet selection should provide the player with an edge?
    Maybe put forth some logic as to why the system should work?
     

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