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Craps How many times have we all heard this line of BS

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by superrick, May 10, 2015.

  1. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=1225750&highlight=craps&trail=30


    Hey you got to love it when there is no proof that this happened and the guy that says that is still working when he has some of the best casinos to play at in Shreveport La. That is only 88 mile from where he lives on interstate 20!


    I was just there and must say what a breath of fresh air, from the casinos we have here in Vegas. They have no hassle games of casino craps!
     
  2. MisterAK

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    MisterAK wonders why, if SuperRick is tired of reading these excerpts, he keeps reposting them? What is he trying to prove? That particular excerpt is dated 2006, so SR is digging through nine year old material, desperate to find something he can take out of context to impugn Heavy's integrity. IMHO he has failed miserably.

    Heavy MAY have gotten one fact incorrect in the 2006 post mentioned above. Accounts of the amount the casino lost to that player vary, depending on who tells the story. The player in question, known in Vegas as "Mister Royalty," reportedly won somewhere between $6 million and $9 million from the Golden Nugget that month. I believe the $9 million figure quoted in a trade magazine was the casinos total loss at craps for that quarter, but several sources cite the loss to Mister Royalty at $8.5 million. I will forgive Heavy if he rounded up to even numbers.

    The story of Mr. Royalty was well published, and is featured in the Tom Breitling (one of the Nugget's owners at the time) book Double or Nothing. It took place at a time when the owners of the Golden Nugget were struggling financially to keep the casino open. As a result of the casino's loss at craps security was tightened on the game. This ultimately resulted in DI's being hassled and driven away from the property. This was when Stanford Wong, among others, was barred from playing craps at the Nugget. There were several versions of the story floating around the Internet at the time, but most have disappeared at this point. This link will take you to one of the remaining articles on the subject:

    http://www.casinoinsider.com/craps/mr-royalty-won-playing-craps/

    More information on the subject. On this thread an $8.5 million loss at craps is mentioned:

    http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/las-...ping-over-a-casinos-for-fun-profit-and-glory/

    Or at this link:

    http://diceinstitute.mxf.yuku.com/topic/3663985/Golden-Nugget-candystore-table-Mr-Royalty-tales-yo

    There are countless other entires in gambling blogs and on-line magazines regarding the losses incurred during the "Tim and Tom" days at the Nugget, but I would go with Breitling's Double or Nothing book as the best source.

    As a Las Vegas resident and self-proclaimed craps expert SR should be aware of these facts. However, he is so obsessive in his efforts to discredit the likes of Heavy, Mad Professor, and Irishsetter that his mind is clouded. No doubt he is influenced by one of Harley's Jedi mind tricks. I suspect he should seek counseling and medication for this OCD behavior.

    In his post SR questions why Heavy does not play professionally and why he continues to work at a "day job." Heavy has long said he is a "serious recreational player" and has no interest in playing professionally. I do not blame him. Why would one give up a day job that offered a six figure income, two company cars, company paid health insurance, and a employer funded 401K? Especially if one enjoyed the job!

    As for SR's trip to Shreveport, knowing that the area is Heavy's primary market, one almost believes SR is stalking Heavy. It is somehow reminiscent of a reported trip to the Buffalo/Toronto market on a quest to find the Mad Professor. Sad and pathetic.

    On another subject, Mister AK arrived in Vegas last night after a successful West Texas helicopter hog hunt. It was touch and go with some of the tornadoes in the area, but death rained from the sky and the Texas feral hog population was seriously reduced.
     
  3. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    MisterAK, Why don't you post as Heavy, instead of hiding and trolling behind your sock puppet!
     
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    Superhick, Why don't you post as Harley, instead of hiding and trolling behind your sock Muppet!
     
  5. MisterAK

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    MisterAK will leave it to the other members of the forum to decide who the real troll is here.
     
  6. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    But the guy tossing the dice when he won the $9 million was. Yeah, that got someone's attention.[/QUOTE]
    Just like every story floating around the internet about Dice Setters, Why don't you show everybody where you got that the guy shooting was a Dice Setter!

    You guys are a joke, if all of this BS is what you need to sell your classes, you should just give it up.
     
  7. $nakeEye$

    $nakeEye$ Active Member Founding Member

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    Rick -

    I seriously believe it IS TIME for YOU to take YOUR OWN ADVICE -

    " GIVE IT UP " -

    YOU are continually rehashing OLD SHIT - YESTERDAY's NEWS -

    YOU have NOTHING to contribute to THIS - OR - ANY forum you are allowed to post on !

    Just MY Opinion !

    ''Ciao !

    $...eE..$
     

  8. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    Then here is my question for Mr. Heavy and all of his little sock puppets - why aren't you making millions? Could it be that you know it's not true and you need BS to sell what you are peddling?


    All I really have to say to you is this, view them and weep, until you can prove that your dice do stay on axis with slow motion videos, sorry guys you are just selling BS!

















    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k467uPlLn3A


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzXc2PXS114&index=12&list=TLPhC1SU9dvTE


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkU458iCDiY&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hheh7c6J77Y&index=34&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOOULZHKNo0&feature=youtu.be


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NaIs8y_hE&index=37&list=UUZ0GZph2K4ebWI6FVaoaJdQ


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jej4WNRGyR8


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZf3jbjie0&list=UUfDRf2L1rCEgYtGFlS_z9ag


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS-R8XYUjhs&list=PL29EB7437F6533C12


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pu1F0D_9g


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_wQN7MELc


    This guy found 172 videos on throwing the dice or dice control and put them all in one spot for your viewing pleasure and he surely saved me a lot of work!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrqyVrQWck&list=PL57YTXgE9UrKJJZsOGpdaFhWAEETRt-rU


    Lets not forget the one guy that had the best set-up for dice control, Aaron Hightower who went the extra mile to try to prove that dice control either worked or it didn't. I have to give him a high-five for all of the work he put into it.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QS26ppbc8


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBJwLtAORa0


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSfu5QDDVA


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM3qDV9Lz3Y


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTzwChYv0U


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni-uMB17x4I
     
  9. $nakeEye$

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    Rick -

    WHY do YOU HABITUALLY re-post the same old stuff OVER and OVER and OVER again ?

    Aside from the obvious fact THAT YOU have NOTHING NEW to add to this OR ANY other forum -

    YOU really need to attempt to " Get a REAL life " -

    It is NEVER " Too Late " to learn something NEW -

    Such as - How to spell correctly - How to speak in words of one syllable or more - How to walk and chew gum at the same time , etc. .... -

    Even YOU can accomplish the ABOVE simple tasks -

    However - it does require ONE THING -

    YOUR anterior MUST be removed from YOUR posterior -

    THEN - ALL things are POSSIBLE !

    Have a nice day !

    $...eE..$
     
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  10. MisterAK

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    Once again, when faced with straight answers to questions posed, Harley and his "Hey, I made a phone call to $nakeeye$ and told him about you and your personal issues" buddy Superrick, these guys rush to post as much nonsensical, repetitious drivel as they can come up with in an effort to drive the straight answer post farther down the thread in hopes that YOU, reader, will not see it. MisterAK is not impressed. MisterAK can read a game trail.

    MisterAK's current project is to track through the history of posts by Harley and Superrick and compare the volatility of their comments to the lunar cycle. I believe the results will be quite revealing.
     
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  11. Pressit

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    Here is an idea. SR has posted here and elsewhere videos depicting on-axis throws that start off correctly but don't land, roll and come to a rest in textbook fashion. Supporting his position that the majority on-axis throws become ioff-axis.

    One way to refute SR's position, and to validate the on-axis position, would be to post videos to support the on-axis toss from various table positions. Saying something is or isn't so doesn't make it so. This is not to say proper on-axis shots can not be correctly executed, e.g. Howard Rock&Roller is the king of the on-axis toss, but not everyone has Howard's talents.
     
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  12. $nakeEye$

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    An ALTERNATIVE would be to have Harley respond to a post that I made LAST YEAR which criticized AHigh's weighting the " 6 pips " of the dice to demonstrate that THIS event caused BIAS in the dice -

    THAT video has been since removed -

    However - UPON even CASUAL observation of the mentioned video -

    There WAS NOT ONE " 6 or 1 " which was produced during the ENTIRE video-taped 12 - 15 hand roll -

    The eventual ' 7-OUT ' WAS NOT comprised of a 6/1 -

    The ENTIRE premise that Harley and Associates elude to -

    IS NON-EXISTENT -

    It is a " Figment of their miniscule Imagination " !

    THOSE videos WILL prove -

    Harley is a BullSh*t Artist of the ' Nth Degree ' !

    $...eE..$
     
  13. Pressit

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    Old Hightower spent a small fortune on video equipment, and associated equipment to record and document impart the dice's flight while in the air, the reaction of the dice upon impact with the table, traveling into the pyramids of the rear wall, bouncing off same and finally coming to a rest. I know of Hightower's work, I don't personally know Hightower, but wouldn't he be the ideal person to video capture the results of maybe 50 on-axis rolls from a team composing of 3 of the best on-axis shooters and let's the video results speak for themselves. Of course the terms and objectives would have to be spelled very clearly so there is no misunderstanding between the opposing forces, and only the on-axis team would be shooting. Naturally Hightower, or someone with his skills and equipment would have to volunteer their time, knowledge, and equipment, and may even his beautiful table or some other natural party. No money prizes, unless you want money to be part of it. There is something to be said for bragging rights.
     
  14. DeMango

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    The result is the proof one way or the other. 44.4% is the bar. I think a 3 sd result would be close enough proof. No video is truely needed, despite the naysayers. Can you see the casino questioning a hard eight because of a quadruple pitch??? How fookin dumb is that argument?
     

  15. superrick

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    Because I Can and it just goes to show everybody what kind of person you are!

    Snakeeys if all you can do is try to cut someone down on their writing skills, you better go back to school and take a writing class!
    You try to discredit everybody by attack their writing, but I thought that I would keep it on the so-called DI's level that still believe their dice stay on axis, and love to read nothing but fairytale. You got to be the only one in the world that writes like you do, so you better start looking at yourself and how you write!
    If I was Heavy I would remove every photo that the Madprofessor every posted, The funny thing about saying anybody is ripping anything off is that's all the Madprofessor does, he has never posted one photo that he took himself, run as fast as you can and get all of those photos off any board the Madprofessor posted on. The same goes for snakeyes, didn't he say he posted that photo of superdick?
    Do I have to show where it was ripped off from?
     
  16. $nakeEye$

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    WRONG - RICKY DICKY -

    What it DOES SHOW is the kind of person YOU ARE -

    The kind of person WHO CAN NOT intelligently respond to a valid question posed to them -

    The kind of person WHO CONSTANTLY BLARES THE SAME SH*T -

    The kind of person WHO HABITUALLY EVADES EACH AND EVERY LEGIMATE QUESTION -

    The kind of person WHO LACKS A 3rd GRADE EDUCATION - WHO CAN NOT SPELL !

    Rick - had you spent MORE time in the CLASSROOM and LESS time in the BOY'S ROOM ( AKA - BATHROOM ) in school -

    YOU would be a " better " person today !


    There is a BIG difference between " RECESS " and " PLAY TIME " -

    Recess is public - Play time is " bathroom / private " !

    $...eE..$
     
  17. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    Just think this guy was once a cop and I hate to say it but now he is acting like a little child!
     
  18. $nakeEye$

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    In reality - what it is - is when for 15 years you deal with the ' lower element(s) of society ' -

    One becomes MOST COGNIZENT of ' THEM ' -

    And it becomes readily apparent when ' society ' needs to be protected from ' lower elements ' / AKA ' scumbags ' -

    " I " - shall become ' that knight in shiny armor ' -

    To protect ' the world ' from those scumbags !

    Now, reading between the lines here -

    This is between " YOU and " I " -

    We KNOW who the " I " is and we also know who / what YOU are !

    CIAO !

    $...eE..$
     
  19. superrick

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    So The Snake,... Thinks of himself as a knight in shiny armor! He's out to save the world and still thinks he is protecting all of us from the Evil posters on any board that he goes to!


    What you are doing is nothing short of Cyber Bullying, you add nothing to the boards that you post on, you attack posters for their writing styles, you call us names, your post ridiculous photos and try to push us around, because you no longer have a badge to hide behind, so now you are hiding behind your computer.
     
  20. $nakeEye$

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    Rick -

    IS NOT THAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU ANE HARLEY ARE DOING - regards Heavy, The Mad Professor and Howard ?

    " What's-a-matter you " - CAN'T TAKE A DOSE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE ?


    You act like a ' Little Girl ' who had her lollipop taken away from her !

    YOU have MY phone number and I told you where I live - I am NOT the ONE who is hiding behind their computer -

    You have ME confused with HARLEY !

    $...eE..$
     

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