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Roulette How to make a winning roulette system/method

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've said it before but it's always worth repeating.
    When thinking on how you want to construct a system or method to play at the table...
    Make a list of things have a good chance of happening and
    a list of things that have little-to-no chance of happening.
    This can vary and result in many ways to play that will win almost all of the time -
    the trick is experience and math of course.

    One example -
    You can write in the "no chance" column.. "38 numbers won't show in 38 spins"
    or in the "good chance" column "repeaters will happen" or "a number will repeat 3 times in 38 spins", "This pattern won't repeat" or "this pattern will repeat"..
    These are just examples, you can make quite a long list actually.
    A person can say "Well, that COULD happen" - but we're talking about what you'll experience at the table.

    Perhaps in posts below this one I'll show a good example - even though I'm sure people will have their own ideas and won't need my input.

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  2. Vito_Scaletta

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    I am interested to hear your method of playing with win. I all times listen to my gut. And I always bet like feel. But I'm a woman, so surely someone here will write that my method is wrong.
     
  3. gizmotron

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    I use a checklist like a pilot does a preflight walk around.

    1.) The roulette table marquee is wrong most of the time. It misses spins or reports them wrong many times during a session
    A. So I keep my own spin results in my index card charts. It takes about ten to fifteen spins to get to see real trends that are currently occurring.
    B. I also keep a wL list once I start placing trend following bets.

    2.) My first 10 to 15 bets are table minimum bets on one of the even chance options of the table. I do this so I can see the trends in the double dozen bets.
    A. I make virtual bets in my mind and put the results in the wL list even though not actually placing those bets. Those are trial double dozen bets.

    3.) My playing experience tells me to act on what I'm seeing. After thousands of playing sessions its easy to tell what phase or condition the bets are flowing in.
    A. It is important to not place bets during a deep slide downward.
    B. I practice at home with my charting program before going to a casino. I want to remind myself to follow the checklist.

    4.) I wait to attack the win streaks that are dominate in the wL list. You can make money during a soft dominating upturn in the win side of a wL list of bets.
    A. It is easy to see a win streak in the wL list. That's when it is best to bet big.
    B. The wL list tells you when to bet big and when to bet small.
    C. Playing experience is what gives me playing patience. The good times will come if you can just stay close to even money and just wait for it to come.

    5.) Never expect more than two big win streaks in a long session. Most of the time there is only one.
    A. Make it count and get out if you are tired.

    If you follow this simple plan, you should run at a better win rate of two to one than at a losing rate.

    Once you have hundreds of effective practice sessions using the practice charting program you should have these skills down to the point as to effectively protect yourself at a casino. Your focus is on winning two bets for every lost bet. You must win two bets at least when betting big. If you can get a streak going at the big level then it will typically continue until the first loss. That first loss can be an indicator that a change has started. You must pull back in almost all situations on a loss. There is only one situation where you should not pull back and that is in a dominating global effect. If you have studied the information available to you at this forum then you should know what that all means. If you don't understand what I said then feel free to go find that information that is already here.
     
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  4. RouletteGhost

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    Another caleb troll or shill

    So sad lol
     
  5. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    I know "you guys" enjoy a negative forum but maybe let turbo do his thing

    Its roulette releated
     
  6. nowun

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    Feels right to me.

    Also feels right to me, but I have my doubts it will reveal anything new for you RG.
     
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  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So here is an example (as an example)


    Assume the following - which would be in the "no chance of happening" column...
    The same pattern won't appear in all 3 dozens during a cycle of 38 spins (American wheel)
    So let's say you chart (bad word) spins for a cycle - take note of each dozen and what numbers have
    shown and which haven't. Is the pattern the same ? No, it never will be.
    [​IMG]
    Now - this tiny bit of info is actually enough to base a winning method on. Once you know something that
    isn't going to happen, you can use this info to win.

    So here's how we can play this :
    Cover the entire table (yes, can't be done at a real casino until you modify this using your own creativity......)
    $1.00 each number. (our unit size will be 1)
    As a number shows - add $1.00 to it and also remove the other two numbers that are in the other two dozens in that same location.
    So.... #3 shows - add 1 unit ($1.00) to #3 and remove #15 and #27
    (since we know the same pattern won't end up happening in all 3 dozens, we know that 15 and 27 aren't favorable to show up now.
    #35 shows next - add 1 unit to #35 and remove #11 and #23
    #4 shows next - add 1 unit to #4 and remove #16 and #28
    Repeat this process until you only have 12 numbers with 2 units on them.
    These 12 numbers will also form a pattern (if you overlap the dozen sections, you'll have a complete dozen).. but...
    So look at your balance - are you at a new high balance ? If you are start over.
    If not - add 1 to your unit size and start over....
    [​IMG]

    This is one example of many on how you can take something that you know is unlikely to happen - and using that to decide where to bet and how to play.
     
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  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Another is to look at cross-sections within the dozens...
    in a modified version of the 4 spin sequence system I wrote a long time ago.
    (dozen and column combinations - there are 9)
    1) 3,6,9,12 (the cross section of doz 1 and column C
    2) 2,5,8,11 (1 and B)
    3) 1,4,7,10 (1 and A)
    4) 15,18,21,24 (2 and C)
    5) 14,17,20,23 (2 and B)
    6) 13,16,19,22 (2 and A)
    7) 27,30,33,36 (3 and C)
    8) 26,29,32,35 (3 and B)
    9) 25,28,31,34 (3 and C)

    Now chart (that bad word again) spins and note where the numbers show :
    and we'll look for a sequence of 3 and then bet against it going to the 4th step.
    (from my actuals)

    13 (6) so 6
    28 (9) so 69
    20 (5) so 695
    5 (2) so 6952
    36 so 69527
    29 so 695278
    15 so 6952784
    23 so 69527845
    33 so 695278457
    28 so 6952784579
    29 so 69527845798
    20 so 695278457985
    12 so 6952784579851
    3 so 69527845798511
    15 so 695278457985114
    31 so 6952784579851149
    13 so 69527845798511496
    31 so 695278457985114969
    6 so 6952784579851149691
    29 so 69527845798511496918
    13 so 695278457985114969186
    32 so 6952784579851149691868
    30 so 69527845798511496918687
    14 so 695278457985114969186875
    30 -- 6952784579851149691868757
    31 -- 69527845798511496918687579
    Now we have 579 which is a repeat of 5798 earlier. We will be against it being 8
    So our bets will cover the board aside from the 26,29,32,35

    9 (win) - 695278457985114969186875791
    24 - 6952784579851149691868757914
    32 - 69527845798511496918687579148
    33 - 695278457985114969186875791487
    16 - 6952784579851149691868757914876
    33 - 69527845798511496918687579148767
    3 - 695278457985114969186875791487671
    25 - 6952784579851149691868757914876719
    36 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197
    1 - 695278457985114969186875791487671973
    27 - 6952784579851149691868757914876719737
    25 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379
    24 - 695278457985114969186875791487671973794
    32 - 6952784579851149691868757914876719737948
    28 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489
    28 - 695278457985114969186875791487671973794899
    15 - 6952784579851149691868757914876719737948994
    34 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949
    4 - 695278457985114969186875791487671973794899493
    7 - 6952784579851149691868757914876719737948994933
    31 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339
    1 - 695278457985114969186875791487671973794899493393
    35 - 6952784579851149691868757914876719737948994933938
    34 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389
    0 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X
    4 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X3
    31 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X39
    13 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X396
    30 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X3967
    13 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X39676
    21 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X396764
    20 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X3967645
    2 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X39676452
    8 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X396764522
    15 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X3967645224
    9 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X39676452241
    15 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X396764522414
    25 - 69527845798511496918687579148767197379489949339389X3967645224149
    Now we have 149 which is a repeat of 1496 earlier. We will be against it being 6
    So our bets will cover the board aside from the 13,16,19,22

    12 - win
    65 total spins. +$400.00

    [​IMG]
     
  9. mr j

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    Sure you could but ya cant be no rookie trying it out. In the beginning stages, it will be much easier. Put 6 on DS's, as spins go by, use 3 on a street(s), use your splits and corner bets. All in order to speed up betting times. This can only be useful if all numbers (in that group) we are betting the SAME unit sizes.

    Ken
     
  10. Armitage Shanks

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    with regards the dozens pattern coud you pre select numbers to fit this and bet off that or do you think its best to let the pattern form as the numbers come in?
     
  11. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You can pre-select it.. but in my opinion you could end up picking the wrong pattern. The way the spins show up make the pattern and they won't repeat in each dozen identically. Trying to guess it ahead of time might be a real challenge. The pattern you pick could end up working against you instead of the other way around.
     
  12. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Absolutely. :)
    Covering a large area of the table with other bets works nicely
     
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    Nice way of thinking TG. I liked basics that noone wants to hear thread and my later methods is based on that way of thinking and I like this aswell.

    Just wanted to give some positive feedback which is rare in this place and community.

    Thanks alot.
     
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  14. Anna Larsen

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    This roulette winning method looks promising. Did you tried it by yourself or it is just you got it some where?
     
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  15. gizmotron

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    Now you are getting smart. I tried to conquer Roulette using the most unlikely pattern or sequence to trigger when to place bets in a negative progression. It wins a lot but it still loses enough in the long run to make the unlikely pattern or sequence worthless in a negative progression.

    Still, the absence of singles, lots of repeats clustering, and the absence of a sleeping dozen somewhere is information too. Like you have pointed out, a sequence of 38 spins will most likely not repeat perfectly in the very next sequence of 38 spins. Have you considered a law of third notion in breaking a 38 spin sequence into three parts respectively, like linearly? How small can a sequence be before it no longer has the likelihood of not repeating? In other words can you make a system like this based on 12 spins in a row?

    On another question: why is "chart" a bad word? Have you already explained this somewhere?
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    "Chart" is a more refined description than" casing the joint (table)"

    B-R-B-B-R-B is a good indicator for buying in at a table if BLACK is the chosen dominant .


    For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.
     
  17. RouletteGhost

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    Extremely clever

    I do exactly what you have done. But on a much smaller and simpler scale

    So awesome!

    A great way to be almost the whole board
     
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    Gamblers Fallacy at its best. B-R-B-B-R-B or B-B-B-B-B-B-B is no indicator of anything.
     
  19. Armitage Shanks

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    Whats your way of playing RG? Thats if you dont mind sharing with a shill :cool:
    All joking aside i have no allegiances i just want to improve my chances of winning.
    Off to a casino where the repeats and its neighbours always seem to be ridiculously high and to think if it wasnt for reading forums like this id have been totally oblivious and been instead looking for 4 reds/blacks in a row....
     
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    Your english improved 100 percent in 5 days time. Amazing. Lol. Dont derail the thread.

    My way of playing is of no importance on this thread. So gracefully fuck off. Thanks.
     
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