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Poker How to pull off being homeless and playing poker?

Discussion in 'Poker Forum' started by Blackhole, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. Blackhole

    Blackhole Active Member

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    This has to be one of the funniest threads made by an alleged self-proclaimed AP at WOV.

    This fn moron brags of his disability autism which helps him win at BJ and Poker. Right out of that movie Rain Man with Dustin Hoffman. You can't make this stuff up. He got stumped on how to move large sums of cash from point A to point B safely not raising any red flags in the process since he don't drive, ironically because of his autism.

    What makes the thread even more special, is the pro AP's like Axel Wolf and the AP forum troll RS and others are all chiming in giving their professional advice and ideas how to do it.

    What a bunch of fn fools over there. I'm so pissed I got banned. There's a lot of fun to be had over there.

    http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/advice/28094-moving-money-from-1-property-to-ones-elsewhere-securely/#post573990

    Edit .... MrV, you are a complete trolling asshole. (personal opinion)
     
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  2. Mickey Crimm

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    You are talking about Tony Big Charles. A couple of years ago he was homeless in L.A. with an $800 poker bankroll. He came on WoV asking for advice on how to pull off being homeless and playing poker. He got a lot of negative feedback. But I gave him some advice on how to survive being homeless while playing poker. In the early nineties I thumbed around the mountain states playing poker. I lived out of a backpack and sleeping bag. I would rent weekly hotels when I was running good in the games.

    Tony ignored all the negative feedback and went after his dream. It's a couple of years later now and he has played all over the U.S. His bankroll is up to $38,000. He did a damn good job of pulling it off. He blogged the whole thing. You can read it all by googling "[email protected]"

    I just advised Tony that he should be able to get a long term safe deposit box at the Riverside in Laughlin. I had a box there for years with no problem. And I was out of town for months at a time.
     
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  3. Blackhole

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    This is like the 4th or 5th AP story I've read across these ridiculous gambling forums about people who were homeless and found their way through life hustling casinos. What's with being homeless and then becoming an AP?

    Should I consider myself blessed I wasn't forced to become an AP while living homeless out of backpacks and sleeping bags. While in the mountains learning how to AP did you set traps and make fires to cook your catch?

    How did you create your first bankroll? Did you collect deposit bottles or were you able to get government assistance? Did you hold out a tin cup or clean windows on cars at busy intersections?

    When you weren't running good in games and couldn't afford weekly hotels, where did you stay?

    Did the casinos or customers ever complain that you smelt like a campfire or like shit while playing next to them?
     
  4. AxelWolf

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    I meet the guy in Vegas a while back after he contacted me about doing some work for us. It didn't work out then because the play I was considering him for ended before I had a chance. He's definitely somewhat autistic.
    He is someone I can handle, however I'm not sure how well people I work with would be able to deal with him. Also I fear he's not good at flying under the radar, so I would have to be very selective about what plays I had him help with.Probably stuff like the Plaza play. He's very controversial online, however I liked the guy and I'm sure something will come up soon that I think he would be perfect for.
     
  5. Blackhole

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    Can you prove this story? If not I would consider your just saying this to back up your stupid fn responses in that thread? You even know about sun light ruining tickets. You are the best Axel.

    Please never stop posting, your one of the more entertaining people to read. And trust when I tell you the entertainment is dropping off big time.
     
  6. AxelWolf

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    He is no where near the extreme stereotype like rain man.
    I'm not an expert, however, I think he has a mild case of autism, it seems more like Asperger's to me.
     
  7. AxelWolf

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    Can I prove I meet him? I don't have Video of us meeting or anything. However, I have a few whiteness, a poker dealer who works in Vegas, Maxpen, and a couple of bartenders and employees of a bar close to me who know me. Perhaps they do have video.
     

  8. Blackhole

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    If I need to come to Vegas with 10K cash to see the proof, please wait till I learn how to transport that type of cash from that thread at WOV.

    I love ya man...
     
  9. KewlJ

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    Those that know my style know I rarely meet anyone in person. I just don't see a lot of benefit and do see potential risk. And while I didn't introduce myself to him, I was intrigued enough to stalk him out and watch him play a few years ago.

    I forget if he was posting at WoV or one of the blackjack sites, but he was staying at Lucky Club in North Vegas for like a week, exploiting the video blackjack game. Besides that he was almost posting in real time about what he was doing and where, I immediately sensed something not quite right about him just from his posts. At first I dismissed him as a BSer. But like I said something intrigued me, so the next morning I headed to Lucky Club, which is not one of my favorite places to say the least. I had to kill a couple hours before he showed and started hitting the machine. I checked in on him a few times over the next couple hours and sure enough his credit total on the machine, was heading 'North', not that really says anything....small sample size and all.

    Never thought of him again, until a few minutes ago, when I recognized the handle in the WoV post.
     
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  10. Blackhole

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    Kewlj, didn't your AP success also begin while you were homeless? I'm certain I read that before.

    He mentioned he won his money playing BJ and poker, never mentioned machines. Do you know if he also is a machine pro? How do homeless people learn all these ways to hustle casinos while us dumb asses with access to everything remain so fn stupid?
     
  11. KewlJ

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    I have you on ignore Blackhole, but that only works when I am logged in and most of the time when I read the site, I am not logged in, as I only log in when I have something to post. So needless to say, I read your post and am going to reply. AND because I had to unblock you in order to reply, I am going to leave you unblocked and hope that you can behave and be a little more respectful than when I blocked you.

    You have jumbled some facts together. I was homeless for 3 months, when I was 18, during my final 3 months of high school, after my stepfather kicked me out of the house on my 18th birthday. My AP career did not begin until 3 years later when I was 21 (actually a couple month prior to my 21st birthday). The three years in between the homeless period and when I began my AP career, I moved to Philadelphia, living with my grandparents for a few months while I found a job and began working. I then moved out on my own with a roommate and worked for 3 years before I quit my job and began my AP career.

    I was never homeless at anytime during my AP career. The first couple years were tight, I lived on a shoe-string budget as I tried and eventually succeeded in building my bankroll. I skimped on food....lots of mac and cheese and peanut butter sandwiches (I didn't like jelly). And I skimped on transportation, utilizing those daily casino bus runs from Philly to Atlantic City as my transportation. You know the ones that return your fare in a casino bonus upon arrival. This made for free or very cheap transportation. At times, you even got back more bonus that the fare costs. :)

    Although I skimped for a couple years, I always had a home and managed to pay my share of the rent almost every month. There were two month in those two years that I just didn't have rent money and "leaned" on my roommate. But no, I was never homeless except those final 3 months of high school. I was never one of the "Mickey-like" traveling homeless AP's.
     
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    I don't think it's due to your stupidity. I think it's due to your ignorance.
     
  13. Blackhole

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    Uh Oh ... now I got the self-proclaimed AP forum troll on my ass. I'm finished.
     
  14. Mickey Crimm

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    BH, I never allowed myself to get dirty. There's a shower in every truck stop you pass on the highway. There are municipal swimming pools and recreation centers. Then there's the old trick of joining a fitness center just to use the shower facilities. Another trick was to stay in a campground with shower facilities. The municipal swimming pool in Las Vegas was on Bonanza just off Main. It cost a buck and a quarter to get a shower and shave. There was a Salvation Army store just around the corner from the pool on Main. I bought clothes that made me look just like a tourist. My trick was to not look like I was homeless.
     
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  15. RS

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    You asked.
     
  16. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    I've already answered this question.
     
  17. Mickey Crimm

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    Any place I could go unseen and roll my sleeping bag out.
     
  18. Mickey Crimm

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    No. I was a day laborer so never was totally broke. I ate mostly out of supermarkets and cheap fast food joints. Though there were some soup lines I took advantage of.
     
  19. Mickey Crimm

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    NO, I didn't do any of that and refused to works signs too. I was a day laborer. I did all the shit work that no one else in the town wanted to do. We're talking stacking boxes, digging ditches, construction clean-up, furniture moving, etc. All the hard jobs. I was a strong kid. From 1992 until 1996 this is a list of the towns I worked day labor in:

    Bellingham, Washington
    Mount Lake Terrace, Washington
    Everett, Washington
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jackson, Wyoming
    Rapid City, South Dakota
    Sioux Falls, South Dakota
    Fort Collins, Colorado
    Frisco, Colorado
    Glenwood Springs, Colorado
    Colorado Springs, Colorado
    Santa Fe, New Mexico
    Las Vegas, Nevada
    Tucson, Arizona
     
  20. Mickey Crimm

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    Here's a story about working signs.

    Backpack Phil and I were holed up in a park in Santa Fe. It was Sunday. We were $5 an hour days laborers dead in the water until the next day when the day labor office opened. Across the street from the park was a big catholic church. By 11 AM the church parking lot was full of cars. Up the street walks this tramp, long hair and long beard. He appeared to be pretty grubby. He stopped at the driveway into the church parking lot. He took off his backpack and pulled a sign out of it. When the church let out everyone moved out to their cars. The tramp held his sign up as they exited the parking lot. It was to far away for us to see how much money these people were handing him but it was like every other car someone would stick a bill out the window.

    It took about 20 minutes for the parking lot to empty. The tramp put his sign back into his backpack, put it on, then spun around and seen us sitting in the park. He came walking over and plopped down in the grass right in front of us. Then he emptied his pockets of the money. He separated the bills out and started counting. $192. He stuck the money back in his pocket then looked at us and said "Where can I get some dope?"

    I pointed in the direction of the Plaza. "They sell dope down at the Plaza" I told him. He put his pack back on and headed to the Plaza.

    "Phil" I said. "If we ever start working signs remind me to pick on churches on Sundays."
     
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