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Craps Howard's "Signature Tosses" ...

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Harley, Mar 14, 2015.

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  1. Harley

    Harley Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Howard Rock n' Roller - one of the most cuddly best dice tossers in the world that wants to be everyone's "friend" ... disclosure - I have known Howard a few years now, he has been to my house on several occasions and we even tripped up to Mt. Charleston Lodge where I bought Howard and his wife dinner. Howard has asked me to assist him in teaching craps players repeatedly, both in private sessions at my house and also at the Crescent Gaming School on Sandhill and Flamingo. Each time, Howard asks me to spend a few minutes discussing unbalanced dice to his students. Howard has invited me on several occasions to go to Vegas shows with him like Penn and Teller as well as the Million Dollar Quartet and we have spent many afternoons together munching on the chicken wings in Caesar's Diamond Lounge.

    Howard also has asked me often and many times to join him for dinner to speak to his students and friends about biased dice in the Las Vegas Casinos - I have done so on each occasion except with gargoil who's reputation proceeded him and I had no desire to meet. As Howard's wife, Ivy Weinerman-Newman said about gargoil:
    Howard has asked my advise frequently from betting styles to tosses, even coming to my 2-story Penthouse Suite at LINQ to ask me to assist him on how to get out of his Florida business lease contract and some other legal issues when the Government effectively shut down his massage business because they did not like him filing Medicare claims for massages.

    Recently there was a post on the censored board by VINYLGIRL as follows:
    .... whoops, sorry - to be continued - have to hit the craps tables, but here is the Link to Howard's website:

    [Admin Edit: Link removed.]
     
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  2. Gargoil

    Gargoil New Member Lineage to Founders

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    • Violated Rule #1 (Be Respectful). 1 Warning Point issued. Further Warning Points will result in increasing temporary bans from the site. Please respect our rules and others.
    Listen here you cancerous piece of degenerate fungous. Don't you ever mention me in any of your posts. I do not know you and do not want to know you. Consider this your first and only warning.
     
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  3. $nakeEye$

    $nakeEye$ Active Member Founding Member

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    FWIW -

    It is READILY apparent to ME -

    AND should be to ALL -

    Harley - intentionally is " naming names " -

    After being admonished NOT TO -

    By the ADMIN of this site on other posts -

    THIS maneuver is an INTENTIONAL ruse to be chastised by the ADMIN of THIS SITE -

    For the SOLE INTENT of attempting to avoid the OBVIOUS -

    THAT is -

    Harley Horn - Harley -

    Is NOTHING short of a LIAR -

    HE knows it , I know it, Heavy knows it, Howard knows it, Frank S. knows it, Gargoil knows it -

    NOW - YOU ALL know it !

    Harley -

    Have your friend - the " Fiction Writing Lawyer " - get you the proper mental health help -

    He is good people ! - He can help you ! -

    Lord knows that you are in dire need of it !

    Good Luck to YOU !

    Sincerely,

    $...eE..$
     
  4. Gargoil

    Gargoil New Member Lineage to Founders

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    To the ADMIN of this site. If YOU don't put a stop to this, I WILL.
    I am not threatening but I will ask you to highly consider this. PUT A STOP TO ALL THIS NOW.

    If you have a concern with what I am asking, feel free to email me and we can talk about it.
     
  5. Harley

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    gargoil - are you trying to censor me .... or maybe you just want me to explain why Howard's wife said you were full of BS ?

    Okay - This is the story Howard told his wife and I in Las Vegas in response to your post on the censored board:
    So Howard explains that you are Lebanese and you are good friends of a Lebanese dealer at Bally's and that you asked him about biased dice being used at Bally's. You said that the Bally's dealer said that all their dice were balanced and that he could prove it to you.

    Howard then explained to his wife and I that you then said the Bally's dealer took you into a back room to a cabinet where Bally's keeps their unused dice. You said the Bally's dealer then took out a new stick of dice and handed them to you as he got a balancing caliper. Then Howard explained that Gargoil told him the dealer balanced the new dice on the caliper to show you that they were not biased.

    ... If you have a problem with the story, talk to your friend Howard .... not me, I am just the messenger

    you posted this on Heavy's message board so I know that part of the story is true:
    Gargoil, maybe you would like to explain your own version of the Bally's dealer story if you disagree
     
  6. $nakeEye$

    $nakeEye$ Active Member Founding Member

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    Harley -

    Give MY REGARDS to " [Admin Edit: Real Name Removed.] " if you happen to run into him or her in your casino travels ! -

    Obviously - THAT - is a fictitious name -

    NO DORK ALIVE - in their right mind - would go around with THAT moniker ! :eek:

    $...eE..$
     
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  7. Gargoil

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    Okay [Admin Edit: Real Name Removed.]... I have given you a fair warning. If the admin on the site doesn't stop this. I WILL.
     
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  8. $nakeEye$

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    Gargoil -

    Let this run its course - the " GAME has just CHANGED " -

    WE have the " advantage " !
    ;)

    $...eE..$
     
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  9. $nakeEye$

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    For the record -

    My wife is reading " Flamingo's Baby " -

    Which was so graciously given to me by the author a few days ago -

    And if not mistaken - [Admin Edit: Real Name Removed.] is a fictitious character in the book !

    According to what I heard tell someone else !

    Then again - " That is MY opinion " ! Ciao !

    $...eE..$
     
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  10. Harley

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    .... most reasonable persons should take the words of a retired Supervising Police Sergeant that still has connections in a Police department serious especially if I have never met either of these individuals and they know my name
     
  11. $nakeEye$

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  12. Gargoil

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    Harley.. Whatever infatuation you have with HEAVY or $nakeEye$ or anybody else is none of my concern. I stepped in when you mentioned me on this forum. Apparently you aren't man enough to prove you are not a liar by providing what the ADMIN here has asked you to provide so you moved on to the next victim. You are attacking everyone who has become acquainted with HEAVY. I believe you get off on this. You maybe be tossing off while reading this post. I don't care about your sick fantasies. I asked you to stop and you didn't listen.
    The ADMIN may be asleep right now but he has 24 hours to put a stop to this once and for all or I will take matters into my own hands.
     
  13. $nakeEye$

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    AND I NEVER even GOT KISSED -

    Before, During OR After -

    Getting " F*ck'd Over " by Harley ! :(

    $...eE..$
     
  14. $nakeEye$

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    Hey Harley -

    Look at the " Bright Side " -

    There are ONLY a FEW who are " laughing WITH You -

    To use YOUR terminology - your " sock-puppets " -

    Everyone ELSE is laughing AT You !

    Put on your helmet - BEFORE - you start banging your head into the wall !

    Previous head injuries can be made more complicated if one is not careful -

    Take Muhammad Ali aka " Cassius Clay " as a prime example -

    Take care of yourself -

    YOU are such a " FUN GUY " -

    This forum " Would NOT be THE SAME without YOU " !

    Take THAT however YOU want to interpret it !

    MORE than " That's just MY Opinion ! "

    $...eE..$
     

  15. Harley

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    What an idiot...
    I don't have a problem with your posts except when you mention me. Just don't involve me in your $hit.
     
  17. $nakeEye$

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    Harley -

    Gargoil does NOT quite understand the " LOVE " that just exudes from us ALL towards each other -

    Especially - TOWARDS YOU ! :rolleyes:

    $...eE..$
     
  18. Harley

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    Gargoil - you have made several replies on this thread without denying the Bally's story .... anyone that knows anything about casino security, including Howard's wife, knows that dealers are not allowed access to dice other than on their own Craps table -- otherwise would be a violation of quality control and many state casino laws

    For instance, at Bellagio daily dice are escorted to the craps pit by two people including a security guard every morning around 8 a.m. The dice are then placed in the locked craps pit podium and logged into a Binder .... it is a double keyed locked podium that allows no one pit boss to retrieve the dice by themselves
     
  19. Gargoil

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    Harley, I don't have to confirm or deny anything to you.
    This is not about the stories you tell. This is about you including me in those stories. I asked you to stop. I asked the admin on this forum to put a stop to it. But apparently no one gives a shit. I will not be sucked in to your pointless games.
    I am done with you. You are trash and I will not lower myself to your level. Consider yourself and the ADMIN warned.
     
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    Hi: This is David Medansky the author of Flamingo's Baby. To my knowledge and best of my recollection I never used the name [Admin Edit: Real name removed.] in my novel. Please reference the page number if I'm wrong. Thank you. Please keep me out of your squabbles.
     
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