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Roulette I have a fun roulette question

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, May 1, 2018.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    There are no official stats on this so I guess its more of opinions.

    *TRY* and answer honestly. All answers are cool with me.

    If we could ask 20+ year, B&M roulette players this >>

    How ever many numbers you play today (vs. 20+ years ago), how (if at all) has that changed from 20 years ago?

    Meaning, in the beginning, playing 20 (or more) numbers back then and you NOW play only a few.

    OR

    In the beginning, playing just a few numbers and now, you play 20 (or more) numbers.

    OR

    Perhaps nothing has really changed over 20+ years?

    Of those three, I wonder what those stats would be?

    Ken
     
  2. Spider

    Spider Active Member Founding Member

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    I play fewer numbers than I did originally.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I know I said I was gone, but this question is one of the most interesting in years.

    I started with 14 numbers, all located next to each other on the wheel. I thought that thew physical position of numbers on the wheel had significance.

    That led to the 3 hottest numbers and trying to figure out a method to exploit those changes. I did that for another five years.

    Then I switched to 50/50 bets, 18 numbers. That was all that stuff a Gamblers Glen starting back in 2006.

    30 years ago I tried to figure out how to win at double dozens/columns, 24 numbers.

    Now, and for the past 5-6 years I have settled on 24-26 numbers at a time.

    I have chosen this amount based on one single reason. The action for changes in randomness, the stuff I try to read and make guesses from, the action occurs more often with this larger sized group. I see sleepers, singles, patterns, and the global effect way more often in a shorter span of spins than 50/50 bets and almost undetectable in the hottest numbers stuff like law of thirds.

    So unless this topic stays alive I will go back to just checking in from time to time, just to read.
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Active Member Founding Member

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    No significant change for me since 1981 .My choice of bet selection began with the 24 number 2 dozen bet and John Patrick`s original 22 action numbers.

    On very rare occasions I have chosen 1 or 2 EC bets . IF 2 EC then in competition with each other.


    N.D.
     
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  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Hey Nate, how old is JP? Estimate......
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Active Member Founding Member

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    J.P is 86 born 4/1/ 1932
     
  7. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    wow, really getting up there I suppose.

    Ken
     
  8. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Active Member Founding Member

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    I once met JP at the rump Taj in Atlantic City ( ca 1996 ) when a film crew from Holland made a documentary about the day of a US professional gambler .


    John had also been an invited guest at Mr. Trump`s 50th birthday party in the gold room at the Taj.


    N.D.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I Found a good reason to move to 18 numbers at a time, even chance bets. I still use swing trading methods like found in the stock market. It's just less volatile.


    This too. It now opens up many games, Craps, Baccarat, and even Blackjack that has no option for opposite side betting.
    With Craps you have Pass and Don't pass. With Baccarat you have Player and Bank. But with Blackjack all you have is win or lose.


    Example:
    Code:
    | B  R | O  E | L  H |    #    W/L   win total
    |    X | X    | X    |    03 -- W  ( $ 90 )
    | X    | X    | X    |    15 -- L  ( $ 0 )
    | X    | X    | X    |    11 -- L  ( $ -90 )
    | X    |    X | X    |    08 -- L  ( $ -180 )
    |    X |    X | X    |    16 -- W  ( $ -90 )
    |    X |    X | X    |    16 -- W  ( $ 0 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    27 -- W  ( $ 90 )
    | X    | X    | X    |    13 -- L  ( $ 0 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    19 -- W  ( $ 90 )
    | X    |    X |    X |    20 -- L  ( $ 0 )
    |    X |    X | X    |    14 -- W  ( $ 90 )
    | X    |    X |    X |    26 -- L  ( $ 0 )
    | X    | X    |    X |    33 -- L  ( $ -90 )
    | X    |    X | X    |    02 -- L  ( $ -180 )
    |    X |    X |    X |    36 -- W  ( $ -90 )
    |    X |    X |    X |    34 -- W  ( $ 0 )
    |    X | X    | X    |    07 -- W  ( $ 90 )
    | X    | X    |    X |    31 -- L  ( $ 0 )
    | X    |    X | X    |    02 -- L  ( $ -90 )
    |    X | X    | X    |    09 -- W  ( $ 0 )
    |    X | X    | X    |    01 -- W  ( $ 90 )
    |    X | X    | X    |    05 -- W  ( $ 180 )
    | X    | X    |    X |    31 -- L  ( $ 90 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    23 -- W  ( $ 180 )
    |    X |    X |    X |    32 -- W  ( $ 270 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    23 -- W  ( $ 360 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    25 -- W  ( $ 450 )
    | X    | X    | X    |    13 -- L  ( $ 360 )
    |    X |    X |    X |    32 -- W  ( $ 450 )
    |    X |    X |    X |    36 -- W  ( $ 540 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    21 -- W  ( $ 630 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    25 -- W  ( $ 720 )
    |    X | X    |    X |    27 -- W  ( $ 810 )
    |--------------------|      38 -- L  ( $ 720 ) 
    Example uses $5 chips for a total of $90 per bet.

    B R column = Black Red bumbers
    O E column = Odd Even numbers
    L H column = Low High 18
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmotron ,


    A very interesting and open reply dated May 2 , 2018 . Quite informative for any one interested in this game .



    ND
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    In Roulette you can see the Global Effect often enough to use it. If I only had one data stream, like the other table games, I would have never discovered it. The must-have-an-edge crowd must not be looking for it. I mean they harp endlessly about needing an edge. I present them with one, where it should not be, and they start grand standing and harping like a fairy sitting on a mushroom.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    To be brief the action on the wheel is the determining factor . No two ways about it


    Interesting that your play ranged from 14 to 24 numbers and now to the EC selection . Have you ever given any thought f a 2 - 4 number choice ?




    ND
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yes, 2 - 4 numbers is very interesting the way Ken has shown.
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    Can you briefly explain the global effect and how it's not just gambler's fallacy?
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's when you show up on all the forums and have the exact same characteristic only a different name. You are a confused megalomaniac that once had a real opportunity with Roulette, but that faded, so you pray on members of forums for suckers by trashing everything around you as "fallacy" just so that you can make contact and sucker people. You are a predator and a sick and selfish low life. All trends end. Why don't you?
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    If you're going to make up BS terms, like the "global effect" then you should be prepared to explain them.
     
  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You can have the world that you sucker. There are a few people in this world that know how to effectively gamble. You are not one of them. Watch the forums all crumble.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    Can you explain why you feel that you're not boxed in by the gambler's fallacy and mania?
     
  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Can you explain why the way you are on all the gambling forums? You are like petrified dumbshit.
     
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    I've read once in a german forum that the optimal way to bet (-2.7%) in order to last and "handle" swings was from 1 number bet to 7 straight bet maximum.
     

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