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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Send a picture of the matrix JK as an example of the bet selection.
     
  2. brokercny

    brokercny Active Member

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    roulette, if it works well against those shoes that are choppy, 2's and others, how will it fare against crazy trending shoes? if you can break even during those times and make your profits on the choppy ones, you might have a solid system. not holy grail, but a golden chalice.
     
  3. gizmotron

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    Can you or anyone that knows what you mean provide a list of hands that are "crazy trending shoes" in a list formatted as one hand per line?

    Example:
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
     
  4. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I used to do the same a long time ago playing the Doz and Col's. Good while it lasted then gave that up when an entire row repeated.
     
  5. RouletteGhost

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    It would be bet opposite of row 1 on row 4

    But close. You got it
     
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  6. RouletteGhost

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    You are betting the same as the row 3 up but in reverse. I’ll explain later.

    Sorry busy at work but you almost had it right

    So go 3 Rows up. Bet the same as that row but in reverse stopping on a win.
     
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  7. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    P B B B P P
    P B B B P P
    P P P B B B
    P P P B B B <--HERE BET FOR THE SAME AS THE 3 ROWS ABOVE BUT IN REVERSE SO BET FOR P P B B B P AND WE WIN ON FIRST TRY IN THIS EXAMPLE

    Tested i think 14 shoes, had one bust so still positive
     

  8. brokercny

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    crazy trending might be something like this:

    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    B
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Reconditioned to find gold:
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    I would not have a problem making money off of this streaky thing. That patch of singles is a curve ball. The two doubles balance, the four singles are all losses and all the other streaks make money to pay off the singles and make even more. If you just play follow the last you make money. So when you see a lot of streaks and singles just don't seem to be around much then the strategy is follow the last.
     
  10. Junket King

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    At the end of the day, it makes little difference if you the row above, 2 rows above, the reverse, the inverse, same as, opposite of, you're simply making 6 bets and using some trigger which to base your bets off.
     
  11. RouletteGhost

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    This is true. Just something I’ll continue to test

    I usually create several methods then play each hit and run style.

    I have a disclaimer above that martingale is not smart and there is no mathematical advantage.
     
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    I had a 6 step Marty on a bet selection I liked once. Tested it on the 1,000 shoes on wizard of odds. It made it through nearly 700 shoes before it busted. I thought, well, that’s not bad. That’s actually good as I’d expected it to not be invincible. After the first bust, it did it again and just happened enough times before I tested through all 1,000 and found it to fall into the negative expected math. I even went back through my losing shoes testing a 7 step and an 8 which failed as well.

    Still, making it through 700 shoes undefeated gave me the confidence to try it in the casino. It busted on my second shoes. My SECOND FRIGGIN SHOE!
     
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  13. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    That sounds about right.

    As a bit of fun, I played a bet selection that only loses to 11% of any given streak of 3. It failed as soon as I sat down and used it.
     
  14. RouletteGhost

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    BBBBBB
    PPPBBB
    BBPPBB
    PBPBPP Win on step 2 of progression
    PPPPPP Win on step 4 of progression
    PBBBB Win on step 2 of progression

    I'll take this all day

    I might dive in with a small unit size and money I can afford to lose

    at the end of the day its gambling
     

  15. Junket King

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    If you did the exact same thing, but with Roulette Dozens, you would have a better chance to win, 66% vs 33%, whereas in Baccarat it's 50-50.

    All you have to do, is replace the B's and P's outlined above, with the number of the Dozen that hit.
     
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    True.

    After years of trying to develop roulette strategies I kind of gave up. Now I play for fun, comps, points. Already have comped Vegas rooms.

    I will look into it though

    I always viewed matrix betting as an equal chance bet

    You mean betting two dozens at once?

    I thought I had a two dozen method. Until the 1 3 9 27 busted haha
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    I mastered reading randomness on double dozens. Here are the dominant traits.

    There are strong sleeping dozens and the chop streaks of singles are much longer than EC's.

    Double dozens are more volatile than EC's. Double dozens dig deep holes very fast.

    Maybe you can use that.
     
  18. RouletteGhost

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    I won’t even ask you how you play double dozens because I know I won’t get an answer. And I’m ok with that because in actuality it is a bad bet.
     
  19. RouletteGhost

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    Using law of the third on double dozens does well for awhile: bet the newest two dozens to hit

    Then you get 123 123 and it kills it
     
  20. Junket King

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    yeah, if you record the sequence of the Dozens

    1-2-3-3-1-1 something like that. Then bet the same sequence won't repeat

    < here you bet 2+3, if 1st Doz hit's then you bet 1+3, and so on. Or run it the next Row, whatever.

    If you want to hedge, bet the columns at the same time, apply the same logic, hit a run approach, should hold up in the short term so you can grab some chips.
     
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