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Baccarat In need of a proper MM system

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Shadymilkman73, Oct 24, 2024.

  1. Shadymilkman73

    Shadymilkman73 Member

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    Some of you might have saw my post regarding Jae's Oscar's grind strategy to which I been using for a better part of last 3 years. I initially found success playing it at B&M casinos before a few sizeable busts mounting into the 6 figures. Not too long ago evolution live bac was made available to me and I started playing online, this time with true count of -20. I had a great run for 2 month will yielded 3,000 units ($25 units) before it went bust back to back to back (3 busts) within 1 month.... losing all the winnings + much more.

    Disappointed and discourage is how I feel as I really thought I could replicate Jae's success. I'm not greedy, my goal was just to recover my losses throughout my 15+ years of gambling.

    If anyone has a good Money Management system they can share, I would very much appreciate it.
     
  2. Mars

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    DF? Looks like you are trying to make this place redduht where they same variations of redudoors ask the same thing over and over and over again. If you have 15 + years of experience and can not do a simple internet search here alone through the first 2 - 3 pages of posts with the most comments in the year twuny twuny fo nobody can build a work ethic for you so you should just not play.

    Did you practice anything else at all? This was already mentioned and this site and elsewhere are absolutely loaded with very good selection and money management content.

    Selection is #1 so it goes back to selecting a shoe, shoe section, and when to exit. If a progression gets big then that's were a cut can be made and possibly reset with a higher base. If you practice over many shoes with any negative progression then you should find points where the win rate is very low and the size gets big.

    What about staggered/ increasing flat, Gr8 Players, etc.? Labouchere is very good, but hard to write in fast play.

    I have zero idea what all this - 35.8 trillion talk is, but any of you discussed thousands in the negative are totally delulu and on the wrong track. F. If your selection is that bad then have no selection. Just follow the pack or select Bank every hand.
     
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  3. Harry Dresden

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    So how about posting your worst 3 - 5 shoes and then perhaps we can generate some discussion on a less distructive money mangement scheme.
     
  4. Shadymilkman73

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    I have been doing some deep digging for sure on this site and others. I have tried Gr8 Player's approach in the past and it didn't fair too well for me. I only play Banker bet and it didn't survive the 3rd time I played it, I was quickly stuck on level 5 with no recovery in sight, and I decided to cut my losses.

    I recently been trying to figure out Soxfan's flat betting approach. I agree with him betting banker only is the best bet, as it has an edge every time vs player. I found an older thread and was able to reverse engineer his shoe results to the shoe example. I did 20 shoes of testing live data from evolution and didn't find the results too favorable. Perhaps I didn't fully figure out his method and am playing wrong.
     
  5. Mars

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    That's good. The concept behind most progressions is that the 1 unit is far lower than a typical 1 unit for flat bet. For example, if a player is typically placing $100 as 1 unit then they could play down with progressions where 1 unit becomes $10, $15, $25 (Even lower online like $1 or $5).

    I don't think it is unreasonable for Gr8 Player's Progression to get up to 6 - 10 +, but it depends on someone's skill level and selection. 10 units on the progression is $100 with a $10 1 unit start so... most of the play is down in the 1 - 3 unit range.

    Netizens have been asking how Soxfan wins cake with Bank and flat betting for a very long time.
     
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  6. soxfan

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    My style can run bad fror a hundred shoe and can run sides-way, breaks-even for a coupla hundred shoe; so why would you come to any conclusion from the result of a paltry 20 shoe, hey hey????
     
  7. Mars

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    Because you keep assuming the formations and trends neva been done befo in a low number of shoes when they have so for your next test try 1 gatrillion shoes to be sure.
     

  8. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    This is why simulations work for me - just because a certain group of hands you’ve never seen happen before, can and will happen sometime.
     
  9. soxfan

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    Query, why do so many cat still wanna focus on the money managements when the bets selection is king, hey hey????
     
  10. Shadymilkman73

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    Going to give flat betting a go. I will report back once I have a number of shoes played.
     
  11. Alec

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    Hello, I appreciate if you recall the max drawdown on those busted series? Thank you!
     
  12. Georgie

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    Alternative to Labouchere Progression

    This video demonstrates a Money Management (MM) similar to Labouchere, but I like it better. Seems to better manage the bet sizes from escalating too high:

     

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