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Roulette Jesper Svensson: Straight Number Parlay.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by beat-the-wheel, May 5, 2015.

  1. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    I read with great interest Jesper's article of his, parlay of straight number.
    This strategy not new, but known since first casino open shop.
    But it could generate HUGE PROFIT!!!

    It is true that straight DOES repeat twice in a row.

    If we take a deep look at all the past HAMBURG casino data,
    we will see that straight always repeat, twice or thrice,
    in the list of 300spins...
    sometime twice in less than 20 spin.

    The trillion cents question is how are we going to reduce the risk.
    Maybe Jesper or any interested reader here,
    should make an investigation,
    about the averages of how long BEFORE a straight number REPEAT

    I read somewhere , that he wait for , I think,
    80 spins without repeat,
    and then start to bet, hoping for repeat.
    and with parlay, that tremendous profit for little staking!
    Thanks.
     
  2. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    I randomly pick a Hamburg data, and see how many time a single number repeat!
    Of course this do not happen for all.
    Thus the very important question, how to avoid the VARIANCE!?


    Spielbank Hamburg
    Tisch 0001
    01.01.2001
    Gewinnzahlen:
    17
    3
    18
    35
    24
    30
    31
    25
    30
    16
    27
    31
    32
    15
    18
    3
    11
    19
    19 HIT TWICE!
    31
    20
    20 HIT TWICE!
    5
    20
    26
    3
    31
    11
    13
    17
    30
    30 HIT TWICE!
    34
    ----
    14
    7
    19
    24
    10
    30
    18
    27
    36
    36 HIT TWICE!
    17
    33
    7
    24
    29
    19
    26
    00
    26
    32
    3
    35
    13
    ----
    29
    3
    25
    6
    31
    9
    16
    4
    13
    20
    5
    26
    13
    33
    16
    24
    12
    34
    12
    20
    ----
    1
    10
    10 HIT TWICE!
    30
    3
    00
    22
    24
    35
    25
    13
    17
    9
    2
    17
    35
    35 HIT TWICE!
    26
    7
    ----
    12
    35
    1
    12
    1
    16
    31
    10
    29
    3
    17
    27
    28
    35
    ----
    36
    14
    22
    34
    20
    32
    11
    22
    25
    2
    ----
    4
    6
    33
    10
    18
    12
    3
    7
    36
    34
    8
    35
    36
    11
    11 HIT TWICE!
    ----
    12
    16
    19
    32
    31
    28
    1
    29
    36
    ----
    30
    2
    26
    33
    32
    15
    17
    22
    23
    ----
    8
    5
    5
    20
    31
    00
    15
    34
    7
    32
    6
    ----
    26
    8
    33
    24
    12
    3
    2
    10
    31
    20
    34
    26
    8
    33
    26
    29
    29 HIT TWICE!
    18
    ----
    4
    9
    1
    33
    31
    3
    10
    18
    18 HIT TWICE!
    27
    25
    15
    20
    13
    16
    28
    ----
    2
    00
    25
    26
    20
    3
    31
    17
    3
    12
    36
    13
    ----
    15
    26
    18
    9
    26
    23
    27
    11
    36
    16
    1
    24
    7
    ----
    5
    00
    1
    00
    24
    28
    ----
    34
    22
    27
    16
    33
    19
    15
    34
    29
    15
    18
    10
    11
    18
    ----
    24
    19
    28
    23
    29
    27
    20
    5
    31
    22
    1
    28
    33
    ----
    9
    27
    8
    19
    26
    23
    4
    34
    14
    36
    22
    34
    14
    12
    21
    6
    25
    3
    12
    ----
    5
    25
    13
    31
    35
    24
    30
    27
    31
    26
    23
    7
    4
    2
    15
    35
    ----
    31
    1
    8
    10
    29
    8
    25
    21
    19
    32
    6
    32
    33
    23
    19
    ----
    19
    00
    3
    20
    21
    15
    2
    00
    30
    36
    12
    27
    ----
    16
    7
    6
    26
    34
    30
    20
    8
    18
    14
    23
    18
    ----
    3
    25
    29
    18
    31
    34
    4
    25
    27
    36
    2
    ====
    Anzahl Spiele: 340
    H剈figkeiten:
    0 8
    1 9
    2 8
    3 15
    4 6
    5 7
    6 6
    7 8
    8 8
    9 5
    10 9
    11 7
    12 11
    13 8
    14 5
    15 9
    16 9
    17 8
    18 13
    19 11
    20 13
    21 3
    22 7
    23 7
    24 10
    25 11
    26 15
    27 11
    28 6
    29 10
    30 10
    31 16
    32 8
    33 10
    34 12
    35 10
    36 11
    Schwarz 166
    Rot 166
    Pair 167
    Impair 165
    Passe 181
    Manque 151
    1. Dutzend 99
    2. Dutzend 103
    3. Dutzend 130
    1. COL 112
    2. COL 106
    3. COL 114
    1- 3 32
    4- 6 19
    7- 9 21
    10-12 27
    13-15 22
    16-18 30
    19-21 27
    22-24 24
    25-27 37
    28-30 26
    31-33 34
    34-36 33
    1- 6 51
    4- 9 40
    7-12 48
    10-15 49
    13-18 52
    16-21 57
    19-24 51
    22-27 61
    25-30 63
    28-33 60
    31-36 67
    Uhrzeit Spielbeginn:
    15.00
    Uhrzeit letzte Zahl/Spielende:
    02.57
     
  3. albalaha

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  4. beat-the-wheel

    beat-the-wheel Member Founding Member

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    Thanks Albalaha for your reply and link.

    But we need to see,where the bane of this betselection.

    as u see.
    win=payout=36,
    bet parlay= 36, hit=payout=1296-1=1295.

    Thus the longest bet before loss=1294th bet.

    We need to have a way to avoid the VARIANCE.
     
  5. albalaha

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    That is true about any bet.
     
  6. Jesper Svensson

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    There are not an easy way to "predict". A double hit is to come every 37 spins. Then the problem is to guess WHICH number. We just can't.
    Even if we sometimes see doubles goes mad.
    One thing I have done, is to assume it may work in a few 1000 spins. It is a big variance bet, and with a bit of luck it can hit early. The variance is not only bad, it is not possible to win at roulette without it. Zero variance is betting every number and lose exactly the expection. High variance
    is to parlay a straight up.
    If we risk 5000 units, that can be Euro 50 on a cent table or Euro 250 on a 0.05 table. If we check the probabillity we could expect to
    hit between 800 and 2000 spins, but it may in the worse case take 5000 or more spins.

    A parlay is a positive very step progression, we lose a chip every bet. After little more than 1200 spins we can not reach a plus.
    We could then us a negative progression as well. Find a point like 300 to 1200 spins there we rise the bet.

    I have done it using 3000 cents, and add a chip ecery 300 spins. I have not any tools to do a long sim, to find out the best progression.
    The 3000 cents has been the stop loss, and it has failed, but (touch Wood) it is on minor plus together.

    I Think this play is for players want to win big, a few times,just bet and cross fingers!

    I have not yet test if a few numbers at every spin is Worth the stake.
     
  7. albalaha

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    This method could be good for paper play but in real life, none can play it successfully in a casino since one single cycle lasts over 1000 spins. Even with the fastest RNG, it will take hours to do just one cycle. In such long methods to play, there is no room for any money management too.
     

  8. Jesper Svensson

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    Albalaha. I play it on RNG, and I agree it is not suitable for BM. A couple of 1000 spins I do anyhow about every day, not uncommon for cent game and RNG. Bot players make sometimes 10000 spins or more a day. I know palyers using autospin for hours flat bet a small amount.

    Since my last post, not very long since, I tested play using more than one number. One test says not very much, but the first test has to begin a testing serie. It was 91 spins until a hit. As 12 numbers it is as 1092 on one number.

    I used 50 Euro, as I thought I could play it with one cent include it in todays real play. Covered the first 12 numbers (Except zero). When the balance went down to 40 Euro, I add a chip to the twelve numbers. Got an early hit (early on the 2-chip stage) and the balance went up to 1470 plus ( I.e. 14.70 Euro, the downdraw was less.

    There must be an optimal progression and may be an optimal numbers to play, 12 may be a bit many.
     
  9. Tony Baloney

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    BeatTW, I think you missed a 5-5 back half. I counted 9 numbers repeated, of 340 spins... 3,10,11,18,19,20,29,30,36. How about this... Of next neighbours forward and back, there were 12 sets: 3-2, 7-6, 10-11, 20-21, 22-23, 25-26, 30-31, 31-32, 32-31, 32-33, 33-32, 35-36. Now, betting one unit forward and back neighbours, plus one unit on hit again, how much profit would that have made, @ 3 units per spin?
     
  10. albalaha

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    which casino you play with 1 cent and do 10000 spins or more?
     
  11. Jesper Svensson

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    I Think you must know about it Albalaha! In other forums they had have discussions and a few well known profiles show it even on videos.
    I have read a lot of fora, but whis is the first I attended as member.
    For ex you find casinos allowing from 1 cent to 20000 cents on a straight up. I mostly use BV, but there are others.

    I did an other and dare to play it real. I used seven numbers. It too went down10 Euro and I add a chip on the seven numbers.
    A double in 195 spins, which is equal to 1395 spins on one number. The gain was 12.18.

    This is a double hit, players who think of hot numbers, or other ideeas can use it, the second parlay do not need to be the same number, its about a parlay.

    Which method we ever use, we can lose, the Lady Luck has the last word!
     
  12. Jesper Svensson

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    A few tests says not much. While playing using 18 numbers I saw, I could as well try to play 36 chips at the time and get the winnings at the first hit. But if it is more than pennies, I do not have so much money to risk on every spins.

    I used 18 numbers, all odd. So I bet 18 on outside odd (which should be mandatory on surrender wheels) and every time a odd hit I bet the winnings on the number. It took time, all double was even, and I went down 50 Euro. I decided to test 50 more (hard decission), and went on.
    The first hit I had misscalculated progression (Before 50 back), and did not went plus on the first hit. It was 176 spins which is equal to 3510 spins on one number.
    Downdrow was about 70 Euro and the second hit made it up 33.09 plus. Not bad but, close to a loss.
    The misscalculated progression made it I needed two hits.
    This make me stop for today. I Think a few number or may be just one will do best.
     
  13. albalaha

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    betvoyager is not fast enough to let a bot easily do 10,000 spins. I have long experience of bots and betvoyager both. It is indeed the worst place to try bots. Slow spins that can not be faster, lots of disconnections and a spin keeps moving ball even for 5 minutes, in bad moments. Maybe you do 10k spins in dreams on betvoyager.
     
  14. Jesper Svensson

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    I did not say I use a bot, it is other. It is sometimes connection problems. Most of the time I can make 1000 of spins manually in a day. The spins are many a minute, You can check the timestamp in the statistic window Picture,
     

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    9 spins that shows in a minute are all same bets repeated. It is not that you change bet and spin and get 9 results in a minute thereby. It can only happen in auto mode with a single bet continuing. You can not place so many chips on different numbers every time seeing results and get such fast results. Do not disguise.
     
  16. Jesper Svensson

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    Yes! But use your emminent brain, it is about response from server. If I put a minut to decide my bet, the server do no response, thats after a click.
    The server responde in second, and if I had to use some time to bet, do not change more than my time.

    You can easy see, the two last spins I had to change bet, it is a longer time. My time, not the servers time.
     
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    In any manner, something that has likelihood to win averagely once in 37x37=1369 spins can not be suggested as a method, be it RNG or real casino. One two bad stretches will make someone stick tongue out like a dog. Could be good only for ultrafast RNG with a bot or paper play.
     
  18. Jesper Svensson

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    Thats happen. It is impossible to be sure of winnings. It is not hard to understand at all. Still can SOME win as the disperse is not only numbers, as well players. Some win, a lot more lose, and the casinos make theire living. Not hard to know or?
     

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