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Discussion in 'Personal Feuds' started by Tater, Jul 26, 2021.

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  1. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    KJ writes: Blackhole seems to have a problem with the Las Vegas period of my claims, that I have been in Las Vegas a 12 years a place with 100+ casinos, playing a rotation of 30 casinos, on myltiple shifts, grinding out 80k a year. Something I work hard at. Blackhole doesn't beleive it is possible to spread my play around in these circumstances.

    Tater says: Im not seeing 100+ casinos in Vegas Blackjack survey. There are large casinos in the hustle and bustle of downtown. Small sweaty casinos around the perimeter.

    KJ writes: Now Moses claim is that he has played about the same level I play, in Reno, where there are 20 casino and only a handful of playable games. And if not mistake, I beleive he claims to have made even more than me during roughtly the same time period, playing a fraction of the number of casinos. Blackhole doesn't seem to have any issue with how moses is able to do that. I visit Reno 2-3 times a year (under normal circumstances) and well, Reno is not a place were longevity can be achieved like this. But as long as moses makes quotes about me, blackhole seems to ignore all that. Very strange.

    Tater says: I play green chip. Jumping to black. Only about 10 casinos left. 5 or 6 worth visiting. I dont post my profit or loss. I take what they give me. One has to play defensively to last in Reno.
     
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  2. Tater

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    After getting a better idea of what Vegas is really about? I know of 3 people KJs'age or less. Each earn well over 6 figures annually from a regular job. Live wherever they want because business is done with advanced technology. Health paid Dental paid. Expense account. Matching 401k. Vacation whenever because they can work from a computer or cell phone.

    KJ must show up and even then there is no guarantee of being paid. KJ'a healthcare insurance must be thru the roof. Condo mortgage and all the fees that go with living in a complex.

    KJ isnt bragging. He's complaining.
     
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  3. Tater

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    I remember this kid was a dish washer. Nothing wrong with that.

    His contribution in conversation to group of college kids at the table was he took Vegas for $5k at blackjack every single trip.

    Hmmm. So why dont you go every week? Beats washes dishes. No? I didnt say anything. Everyone at the table could see he was a braggadocious idiot.
     
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  4. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Serious question for you Tater/moses: Have you even been to Las Vegas to play blackjack? Because some of the things you say seem to indicate a complete lack of knowledge.

    Some of these "small sweaty casinos around the perimeter" are bigger and have higher limits than all or most casinos in Reno. Places like all of the currently open Stations casinos, Palace Station, Boulder Station, Sunset Station, Sante Fe Station and particularly Red Rock and Green Valley Ranch which are as big as strip casinos. Also, Sam's Town, Orleans, South Point. These places are all as big and have limits as high if not higher than Reno. And there are others like Silverton and a few others, while not as big you can play green to black, especially during busier times.

    This idea that you keep repeating that there are 5 or 6 or even 10 casinos worth playing that take action is ludicrous. I have a rotation of about 30 casinos at any given time that take green to black action or better. Now it is true that some of the outlying local type places, if you visit at 11am on a weekday, max bets of $400 may stand out some. So I don't visit those places at that time of day on a weekday. Scheduling is all part of the game plan.
     
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  5. Tater

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    KJ. You might want to help the Wizard update his blackjack survey. The places you listed say they are red chips games.

    Ive been in Vegas Paris. What a mess! Ive been on the strip with my cousin. Seemed like we were constantly staning in lines. Parking was horrible. If you are walking between places at least you dont have to workout.
     
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    You take what they give you here. I will have to switch from weekday green chip play to weekend black chip play. Unlike you I dont need the mony. But I still like it.

    The running back used to say "give me 12" of daylight, that's all I need.

    Give me pen and I will win.
     
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  7. Tater

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    KJ. Red Rock is the only one of the places you listed that offers a $25 min table.

    Blackjack survey says 4 are quick to backoff, sweat geen action, and are data base participants.

    Green Valley is in Henderson. Orleans is Machine shuffle. Sam's Town has 1 $3 table.

    So that leaves Sunset Station with five $5 tables on 6 deck shoes.

    How in the hell are you coming with up a rotation of 30 casinos to play?

    Out of 27 casinos that only offered red chip, 15 were quick to back off. Sweat Green Action. Data base partcipants. That leaves 12 and most of those were on the strip.

    Have you come up with some magical potion that gets a pit boss to now see your $25 to $300 spread in his red chip pit?
     
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  8. KewlJ

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    Moses/tator, you are going by surveys that are outdated. Wizard's has a pre-covid date of 2019 doesn't it? Furthermore, it is my understanding that Wizard's survey has for sometime just copied the info from the monthly CBJN survey at BJ21. And while the CBJN survey and list of conditions is updated monthly for Las Vegas, it is a snapshot in time, of a specific moment and nothing more.

    Each 'reporter' visits the casinos on his route on the first or second of the month and the results are made available on the 3rd or 4th. And the reporters visit one time, during the day, often a weekday. They aren't concerned with how busy it is because they count both tables in use and not in use. So when the report says xxx casino has 16 blackjack table, there may be 3 or 4 open at that moment but he is still counting all tables. Probably the only time ALL tables are open is a fight night Saturday or holiday weekend. But when they visit, does effect what table limits they see and report. Again the most frequent time of the reporters visit is mid day on a weekday. So if they are reporting $15 minimums at 11am, when they visit, those minimums may and will be different later in the day and on different days.

    Bottom line CBJN (which is copiied in Wizards survey when he updates it) is a snapshot in time, a guide. Players need to do their own homework and know the games in their own rotation.
     
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  9. KewlJ

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    One other thing about the CBJN reporters. It has been suggested over the years that they sometimes report a bit inacurately so as to protect their own games. This mostly has to do with penetration of different games. EVERY time it is suggested, the reproters who for Las vegas area are longtime Las Vegas area players, push bach denying intentionally inaccurate info.

    But this just highlights that these reports and surveys are a guide, nothing more. A player needs to do his own homework and should know his own games.

    Now I do know my own games in my rotation. So when I see info that doesn't match what I know, I just shake it off and say "I don't know what that reporter saw on that day, but it isn't the norm. But where I am a little lax is scounting all the games around town that are not in my current rotation, to see if there are any changes that could make for a playable game. I just don't spend a lot of time going in and out of casinos that are not in my rotation. So once or twice a year, I order CBJN, just to see if there are any changes and if there are, then I will go check it out myself. Again....I use it as a guide and confirm for myself.
     
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    KJ. Now see, that is good information and damn good debate. Like Sergant Friday (Dragnet) "just the facts mam."

    Wouldn't this approach serve you better at VCT?

    One thing I gleened from this is when you said you hit the higher limit casinos on the strip on weekends.

    So I scouted this weekend. I can get some quality play in single deck straight up at black chip tables on weekends. Of course, I will have to give up watching football and it reverses my schedule from pre covid.

    So if a player was to move to Vegas? They should scout every casino regardless of what the CBJN states? How long did it take you to establish your rotation?

    If I had it to do all over again. I would've never played one hand at a red chip table. That is where my troubles derived and sometimes come back to haunt me to this day.
     
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    The UNKewlJ is a complete idiot for claiming that he deliberately underplays his bet or misplays his hands at time, and doesn't press as much as he should at times, to try to avoid detection.

    It's hard enough to win at Blackjack without giving up your advantage at times.

    The UNKewl one's whole "theory" runs contrary to what any professional will tell you - and that is to just PLAY YOUR GAME and try to get as much as you can when you can. There will be enough times when variance works against you such that you don't even win when you think you're supposed to, that if you give up potential winnings when you do have an advantage, you'll never end up ahead.

    That’s like advising me to not press into a 13 Bank Baccarat run because the casino will figure out that I know what I am doing. Or advising Dana White or Don Johnson to underplay and take less from the casinos than they are capable of taking.

    This UNKewl one is the same guy who ended last year in the red and gave up.

    You don’t need a crystal ball to know what will happen to this nervous poodle. He’s going to putz along losing more often than not until he is banned just as surely as if he had played to full potential, look back at a wasted life of underplaying blackjack, and wish that he had taken all that he could before his meager run was inevitably stifled by the powers that be.
     
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  12. Tater

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    KJ writes; I am moving to Las Vegas, then I am not moving to Las Vegas, but I provided info that should be beneficial to not only him but anyone else considering the same thing.

    Tater says: The idea of moving to Vegas was to doulble the stakes. It's not worth it for me to give up my home and life I enjoy for peanuts.

    You, 21forme, and others at WOV convinced me not to do it.

    I dont need the money. But I thought it would be a nice legacy to leave behind to my kids.
     
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    I was going to treat you like an adult and respond respectfully, until you repeated the lie about my results. What is wrong with you? That is so 3rd grade. There is extreme variance in blackjack play and some of the things I do, actually invite even more variance, like using different spreads, ramps and max bets for different situation. That is not why I do them but increased variance is a side effect. So it is possible for a player to have a losing year despite playing +EV. I have talked to a couple professional players that had losing years.

    So if I had a losing year or have one some time in the future, I would have no problem sharing that. But you just lying over such a stupid thing, is so immature, so 3rd grade. grow up and act like an adult.
     
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    Why would you have to give up your home? Lots of professional blackjack players, including 21forme travel frequently. And as 21forme said, Vegas is a great place for travel to and from. Good and efficent airport with lots of cheap flights everywhere. I know one long term professional player who moved to vegas because of the easy travel. He claims he doesn't play much in vegas but travels everywhere else.

    Now, I know for a fact, travel to and from reno is easy, quick and cheap. Alligent has flights for as low as $29 and it is less than an hour flight. I spend more time on the highway getting to Green Valley Ranch. lol

    You could pop into vegas for a 3 day weekend onece or twice a month and maybe a little extended stay for a few weeks or month escaping the Reno winter. And still keep your house and not up end your life in Reno. But that is just me.
     
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    Once I realized all the cash Id have to lug around to play $50 min. I figure Id have to drive.

    Single Deck is a game of defense. 6 deck is a game of offense. I'd need to spend some serious time with Norm's products in order to change that mindset.

    Im certain I can do a percentage count over a 6 deck shoe. Basically it's the percentage chart x 6 and the formula backs it up. That is what put the wheels in motion in the first place.
     
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    KJ writes
    As for moses, I know we are not supposed to bring drama from other forums here, but the drama at another forum lead to police involvement when moses showed upo at my residence two years ago, trying to get by the front desk security who called police. This was immediately after moses threatened to come to Las Vegas and find me.

    KJ. Monstrous Liar. That NEVER happened. He also alleged Moses is homeless, on welfare. Sleeps in a box. Under a bridge.

    The tactics he resorts to when/if anyone questions KJ the Great.

    Come on up fruity. Im sitting right here in my living room. Bring fat boy with you.

    C'mon Once Dear. You reatrict me from posting un my own thread and all KJ to post that shit?

    So much for your forum integrity.
     
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    1. C'mon Once Dear. You restrict me from posting in my own thread and allowl KJ to post that shit?

      So much for your forum integrity.
     

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    Moses you really need to get a grip. If you have medication that you are off of, take your meds and act like a civilized adult.

    I treated you like and adult and with respect, answering your questions and offering advice, even though I suspected you move to Las Vegas was all fake.

    You need to let go. You really do. That I make a living playing blackjack is none of your business and you should not be obsessing over it like you have been for years, on many forums. Live YOUR life.

    kj
     
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    KJ. You really need to grow some balls. I recipricated with respect comments. Then you and fat boy want to play the Poor, Poor KJ always the victim.

    Idoit. I said I was staying put after 21forme post. So why would I care about the blackjack survey? It gives YOU the opportunity to put all those naysayers in their place.

    Instead, once again you proved you're a fraud who doesnt even know his own city. A monstrous liar. A coward. And a drama queen.
     
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    You made your bed with your constant bragging. What you didnt think you'd get challenges.

    It's like Joe Montana saying, "yeah, I am really good. I dont know where the 49ers would be without me."

    Then complaining they wont block for him.
     
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