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Roulette Law of Third & Three Hot Numbers

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Sep 19, 2016.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Law of Third & Three Hot Numbers: Ken and TurboGenius invited.

    I have found that my observations actually have a Law of Third truth to them.

    If I forget about the 37th number, I can use rounded numbers as an example.

    Truth: of the next 36 spins, only 24 numbers will show at least once. The other 12 will not show up.

    Truth: Of the 24 that show up, 9 will show up twice and 3 will show up three times or more. Or: Eight will show up two times, repeat once, and four will show up three times or more.

    So you have three or four that will be the hottest in the first cycle of 36 spins.

    Of those three or four that are the hottest, only one or two will be hottest in the next 36 spins. Of the other two numbers one will appear only two times and the other hot number will either show up once or not at all. So one number of the three hot ones in a cycle will be hottest in the next cycle. The other two hottest numbers will break even for you. Now that's average. Also I'm guessing from experience that this is close to the truth if I understand law of third.

    Has anyone proven this with a sim or bot?

    I will today. I might build a hot number progression to deal with this. This kind of work might already be passe' at this point. I started in hot numbers but never noticed the law of third distributions between 36 numbered cycles.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is some quick telemetry on 10 cycles of 37, 370 spins. Top to bottom is (1 to 36) + 0. " | " is the space between cycles. So you can see where it would take 10 hits to balance. Any thing beyond 10 hits in 370 spins is a winner. This is a rounded result. I know there will be 10 units lost at ten wins.

    Telemetry
    Code:
    |      |      |**    |      |      |**    |      |*     |      |**    | -- 7
    |**    |      |      |***   |*     |*     |*     |      |*     |      | -- 9
    |      |      |**    |**    |      |      |*     |      |*     |      | -- 6
    |****  |      |      |      |**    |*     |*     |*     |**    |      | -- 11
    |**    |      |*     |*     |*     |      |*     |      |      |***   | -- 9
    |**    |**    |*     |**    |*     |*     |      |*     |      |**    | -- 12
    |      |**    |*     |      |**    |*     |*     |**    |      |      | -- 9
    |      |*     |      |*     |*     |*     |**    |*     |**    |**    | -- 11
    |      |**    |      |*     |      |      |***   |**    |*     |      | -- 9
    |*     |*     |      |***   |      |**    |***   |***   |*     |      | -- 14
    |**    |      |      |      |      |*     |*     |      |      |**    | -- 6
    |*     |*     |      |      |***   |**    |      |      |**    |**    | -- 11
    |*     |*     |***   |*     |*     |**    |*     |*     |      |**    | -- 13
    |*     |**    |*     |      |*     |**    |      |      |      |*     | -- 8
    |      |      |**    |**    |**    |*     |**    |      |****  |      | -- 13
    |      |      |      |      |      |*     |**    |      |      |**    | -- 5
    |*     |**    |*     |**    |      |***   |      |**    |      |*     | -- 12
    |**    |      |*     |      |*     |      |*     |*     |*     |*     | -- 8
    |**    |      |*     |*     |*     |      |*     |      |      |*     | -- 7
    |**    |*     |**    |***   |*     |*     |*     |**    |      |**    | -- 15
    |**    |*     |      |      |**    |      |      |      |      |**    | -- 7
    |      |**    |*     |      |*     |**    |      |*     |*     |*     | -- 9
    |      |***** |      |*     |      |**    |      |*     |      |      | -- 9
    |*     |      |**    |**    |*     |*     |*     |**    |      |*     | -- 11
    |      |      |***   |      |      |*     |      |      |***** |**    | -- 11
    |*     |**    |***   |      |      |*     |      |*     |**    |**    | -- 12
    |      |*     |*     |      |**    |*     |*     |      |***   |      | -- 9
    |*     |      |      |*     |      |*     |*     |**    |      |*     | -- 7
    |*     |**    |      |*     |****  |      |*     |*     |***   |*     | -- 14
    |**    |*     |*     |      |*     |*     |*     |      |      |*     | -- 8
    |      |      |***   |**    |*     |      |      |      |*     |      | -- 7
    |*     |**    |      |**    |*     |*     |****  |      |**    |      | -- 13
    |      |      |**    |*     |      |      |***   |****  |**    |      | -- 12
    |      |*     |*     |**    |**    |*     |**    |*     |*     |*     | -- 12
    |**    |**    |*     |      |**    |*     |      |****  |      |*     | -- 13
    |**    |**    |*     |*     |      |**    |      |*     |      |*     | -- 10
    |*     |*     |      |**    |**    |      |*     |**    |**    |      | -- 11
    
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What about the 38th number? The American Wheel is designed with 38 pockets.
     
  4. TurboGenius

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    Thanks for the invite - but for now I'll just keep an eye on the thread and see where it goes.
     
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    In the grand scheme of things, and for playing roulette in real time, there is no such thing as a 36 spin cycle. Because the cycle aperture moves along spin by spin you are always at the beginning and at the end of a 36 spin cycle which renders it virtually useless.

    Because of this constantly moving aperture, the last few numbers to hit have just as much chance of repeating (becoming “hot”) as any other “hot” numbers you may have noted further back.
     
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  7. gizmotron

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    Bombus, I think that picking a starting point has very little to do with the fact that it takes one win, for every 36 spins bet on, in order to balance. Once you start a 370 spin session that balance point becomes about 10. In that time it doesn't really matter when that win comes, early or late, as you say. There are averages that play out in thousands of spins. Those averages become characteristics that set a kind of road map of generalizations. That reference point can give you a picture to compare the average to what is currently occurring.
     

  8. Rona

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    I like it
     
  9. mr j

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    @Gizmo >> I at least admire that you "carry on" with your thoughts, ideas etc.

    My advice? Why look for validation anymore? My eyes were opened a couple years ago. Do your own thing, your own testing etc. As soon as you might post a new thread, the flood gates open. Why fuck with it?

    If others want to call you names, let them. I think its a form of graduating....."not needing the boards anymore".

    Sure, its fun to shoot the shit a little but why RELY on others here? Not me.

    Ken
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Good advice Ken. I have a good forum where people are actually interested in learning and furthering what I have shared. These chronic jerks act like NPD types. There's really no need to keep giving them what they want.
     
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    Even over at RF/BS (not just here)......me personally, I have no desire to "share" as I have in the past. I put in too much blood, sweat & tears to simply hand shit out on a silver platter.

    Ken
     
  12. gizmotron

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    See ya later Ken
     
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    Why...? Please share. I would love to know of a winner. I read two company now. Is that your winner? Never tried it.
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

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    At one time they used to say Does Macy tell Gimbels ?
     

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    Hi there Nathan.
    Does this mean that in this forum we should see each other as a rival and no one (except me) will reveal their way?
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    I would some of the posters here on this forum have developed their own method of play . Some of them spent years of having perfected their favorite method.

    As for myself I was lucky to have found the teachings of a professional gambler. That puts me in a position not to violate the copyrights of his books which should be understandable.


    Don`t look to a forum as a school for systems but rather a place to discuss already existing systems/ methods.
     
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    Hi Nathan. Ok. I'm happy you are off the hook.
    I am still strugling. I make about 5.000 chips profit a month since i start playing my way. But i want no less then be invencible. I still lose an average of 1-2 out of 4. 80-100 chips per loss. I profit between 240 to 1000 per win.
     
  18. Nathan Detroit

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    A trip to a B & M casino requires a 2 or 3 night stay with a 550 mile round trip. That`s a mini vacation.
     
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    Here I have 3 casinos in the 30minutes range.
    Minimum 2-5 euros per chip. Just getting into one now.
     
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