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Roulette Learning from the Masters

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rheti, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. Rheti

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    Gizmo,

    These are 2 groups of numbers (18)...

    I downloaded a day of Table 5 from Wiesbaden..

    the first 15 spins...

    A B
    1 x ----
    2 x ----
    3 --- x
    4 x ----
    5 ---- x
    6 x ----
    7 x ----
    8 x ----
    9 ---- ---- zero
    10 ---- x
    11 ---- x
    12 ---- x
    13 ---- x
    14 ---- x
    15 ---- x


    Do You already observe a trend for gambling ?

    Or do You need more spins ?

    Tell us what's in yr Mind.... I certainly do'nt trick you..

    Regards
     
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  2. gizmotron

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    I would have won one winner on spin 12 of your example. I might have tried a half priced bet on 14, or 15 but not on 13. This is the nature of mini trends. It went from doubles to singles to triple and then a possible triple again. I would have all the other 5 groups to see if there was a swarm of triples happening too. It's never about one trend from one grouping. It's about the swarms in all the groups that run in parallel. Nothing makes this happen, just coincidence. I use it as a feature of randomness. Swarms of any characteristic are fun to try to get a couple of wins off of. I go after one win from these mini features. I jump around so that I don't get dependent on any one trend location. I also make the first win off of it the biggest. After that I tail off so that there is always something gained from that first successful strike. This is a game where you grind away on the mini trends and hammer the obvious strong features. It still all comes down to a minimal stop spot for wins. You can get all caught up in a strong feature and end up hammering thru a losing patch. I do it all the time if you look at my bets on R-sim. It's pure laziness. It's my weakness.
     
  3. Rheti

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    E O
    x ----
    x ----
    --- - x
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    ---- ----
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    ---- x
    x ----
    x ----

    Big swarm..
     
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  4. Rheti

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    L H
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    ---- x
    ---- x
    ---- x
    x ----
    ---- ----
    x ----
    ---- x
    x
    ---- x
    ---- x
    x ----
     
  5. gizmotron

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    Great characteristic. You hammer it. BTW, that's singles on the weak side with one zero thrown in to ignore.

    The question is how to hammer it. What would you bet if you notice singles on the weak side?

    You have 15 spins with 3 losses. Do you just bet the strong side and take the 3 net losses along the way? It depends on if you go into profit of at least two net wins. In that way you at least get one net win from the feature if it breaks down. It all comes down to the way that you bet a characteristic. I never taught this topic. It all goes to the mini wins. This "singles on the weak side" feature happens a lot. I get my win stop point and end. I raised my stop point at R-sim on purpose. I'm going after #1. It's reckless I know. But there is that million sitting there to go after. I'll be at the top level of a 150,000 bankroll soon enough. Pretend is sort of fun. I have a Lamborghini in the Valet Parking lot. So cool.
     
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  6. Rheti

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    B R
    ---- x
    x ----
    ---- x
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    x ----
    ---- ----
    ---- x
    x
    ---- x
    ---- x
    ---- x
    ---- x
     
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    Not much there. Find something better. Now if it went 4 then 3 then 2 then maybe 1 next you have a pattern. Can you see what I mean? Take out the zero and the singles.
     
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  8. gizmotron

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    All singles and then a change to repeats. The trend is that once a double happens a triple also follows. It's good for one possible net win. Then if you see a swarm of 4's then this is different.

    You need the context of multiple groups like my charts.
     
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  9. gizmotron

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    Tell me what you see?

    Code:
      W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP 
        |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  01  --  09   
        |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  02  --  16   
        | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  03  --  35   
        |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  04  --  21   
        |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  05  --  03   
        |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  06  --  21   
        |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  07  --  19   
        | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  08  --  11   
        |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  09  --  14   
        |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  10  --  21   
        |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  11  --  21   
        | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  12  --  15   
        |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  13  --  12   
        | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  14  --  33   
        | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  15  --  10   
        |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  16  --  30   
        | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  17  --  10   
        |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  18  --  07   
        | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  19  --  29   
        | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  20  --  24   
        |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  21  --  25   
        |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  22  --  12   
    
     
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  10. Rheti

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    See Singles at P weak side
     
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  11. Rheti

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    low 2-1-2-2-1-2-1 .. next bet low
     
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    Heck with waiting for what you see. It's a swarm of singles on the weak side. The entire P section (Primes) is singles on the weak side. But at the same time you have them going on in the groups Black/Red and Odd / Even. You can do very long shot combo bets. You just try to combine all three on a first try after the strongest short lived combo. So on Line 4 you would bet all the red odd not-primes numbers with a huge bet. You just probe the reoccurring features for at least one bigger than normal bet. If I bet $1,000 on an EC bet then I would bet those 4 or 5 numbers at $200 each straight up. The payoff would be enormous. You can see me win those combo bets at R-Sim. They look like progression bets but they are in fact long shot bets on a few numbers that cost about the same as if I had lost one of my EC common bets. Sometimes randomness gives you a very nice combination of features. If I lose I just wait until I can recover either by doubling up on a good trend with EC bets or that I find another great combo bet. My practice software features combo bets. I always has. I just never taught them much.
     
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    absence of triples or larger.

    Once you see the bigger over all picture you can create the bet to match.
     
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    All this is how I taught the very first student of the EC betting method.

    You can clearly see the difference in what a one on one instruction is like compared to the Reading Randomness thread.

    It went on for two months, every day each for two hours per day back and forth. You have about ten minutes. I can fill those hours too.

    This is a very in depth skill.
     
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  15. Rheti

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    geez Gizmo, y'r a genius
     
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    Yep, singles on the weak side combined with at least a double at first on the strong side, but that breaks down to singles on the strong side at the last.

    You always want to see if there is a bigger picture on the strong side to go with the singles on the weak side.
     
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    Have to make Dinner... thnks
     
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    You are welcome. Eat up -- grub!

    gotta make breakfast
     
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    Rhett has made a very wise move considering EC bet selections .

    On occasions I am signing on Wiesbaden and also making table 5 my favorite .



    More for the purpose of the 22 Action numbers by Brett Morton. 3 DS and 1 Quad . All distributed around the wheel with never more than 2 clicks in between .
     
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    When it comes to the magical groups and their sets I prefer the Red & Black. There is only one alternating space between them. I don't actually give any credence to any specific groupings. But I have also always suggested that you can use any pet groups that you want. I'm also saying clearly that they all act pretty much the same when it comes to showing characteristics of randomness.
     
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