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TurboGenius Light Ball! Test 1

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by jekhb1976, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Many moons ago Turbo, the chief riddler, proposed bet every spin. he mentioned some progressions.
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    Now look at top 3, but i've stretched to top 4.
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    Just, ask does it always win?
     
  2. RickK

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    Rinad...thanks for sharing your methodology..it is appreciated...
     
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  3. punchdrunk

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    Hey guys, read rinad's post and decided to have a crack with a few minor differences. Started off following the first five repeaters, then changed to following all repeaters, hence the first massive drop off. Adjusted back to 5 repeaters but only in the first dozen plus the zero. Dont know if it makes any difference but the 1st doz plus zero are well spaced around the wheel compared to the other dozens. Changed again to following 7 repeaters in first dozen and the zero. This gave me a better than 50% chance of a hit if it lands in the first dozen or zero. Theres a couple of big drop off, may need some more tweaking. Anyway got through 1000 spins, will try again tomoz. If it fails you'll probably never here from me again. Cheers
     

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  4. SERGIO

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    I did something similar a long time ago, but I took the last 6 numbers that repeated in groups of twelve spins and rotated forever playing with the 6 most recent repeated numbers.
    We hope to have 6 repeats that come out in 12 spins, from there we play these 6 and if 1 new repeat comes out between 12 spins, we eliminate the oldest and add the most recent and so on.
    You will see that every not many balls has a hit, with a good cash handling you will win very often.
    But it is still a system with good results, but it is still systems based on the same bases as always, against a manipulated roulette, I do not know if they can always win.

    I'll leave it here in case you want to try ...
     
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  5. Rinad

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    I just realized that I wrote the wrong progression that I have been playing and I apologize for that if anyone wasted their time.
    I wrote the positive progression 1,2,3,4,5 instead of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. I add a unit after a win up to 10 units maximum.
    that is how I have reach 350 sessions without a loss yet. so I would be betting 10x5 =50 units total and stay until I am in profit. the maximum spins it took at the worst case was 435 spins once. to me this method is designed not to lose or if it does it better be a super rare occasion.
    anyhow good luck.
     
  6. Smitridel

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    I usually discard graphs, but in your case Im really curious to see a graph of your worst session to study the drawdown.

    In my tests with many similar ways in which you persist on numbers that may become inactive the drawdowns are huge, if you follow this progression.

    Frequency of hits is an enormous obstacle and if you apply a progression you actually enhance the effect possitively but negatively as well.
     
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    Smitidrel I HAVE SEND YOU ONE QUESTION AT YOUR PROFILE PAGE
     

  8. Rinad

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    Smitridel I am just as surprise as you are with the results . i have too tested decades of similar methods. so I get your concerns trust me.
    I am not a newbie in this matter and if someone was showing me a type of system like i just did i probably would of discard it myself.
    i test went 10 sessions and was expecting a huge dive at some point but it did not happen. then kept on playing the same way from 10 to 100, 100 to 200 ect.... I was a surprise as anyone could be . I then once change the format and changed the numbers to the latest hot ones and crash.
    so i went back to keeping the same numbers and not changing. my thinking is that "if we pick a bundle of five numbers that are somewhat close together within 12 to 20 spins" , those same numbers would have a greater chance to "come back closely" in some future spins/cycles .
    I see this being the only explanation for now. or I got just lucky.
     
  9. Rinad

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    also i like to point out that while testing I wanted to do the test as close as I would play in a real casino. I did use the small diviations I wrote early.
    in other words every time i get a hit I look at my betting unit and figure if I need to go up ,stay , and at times go down . why move up if you dont need to ? so I have done that as well. the progression is a base that I recommend . I figure that in real live sessions I am more interested in staying alive then take a additional risk, but that is just me.
     
  10. RickK

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    This worst case of 50 units/spin happened during testing ? Have you gone live yet?
     
  11. RickK

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    Just wondering if using RNG for testing may have caused that bad session or if there are many sessions that go that deep...
     
  12. Rinad

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    the worst case happened only during testing yes , and not live. playing live has been much easier but I am playing airball since real tables are still closed. I may play online but I have concerns about interuptions during the game. I have had more then once got the game shutting off when I had to wait for connections to reload and I hate that. could be where I live here but I am not sure . practice with rx and see how the sessions accumulate without digging deep most of the time. once you got your five numbers you just sit there and wait. it is a good idea to have a card with the amounts of units you are getting when you get a hit. that way you have enough time to place the right bets knowing what money you need. I have made the mistake in the past of just calculating the pay out without substracting the 5 bets that I had on the carpet so I decided to write down every pay out in advance, from all 10 bets, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7........ easier that way.
     
  13. Rinad

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    Rick that is a good question. rng is very hard to beat in my opinion. I had the sessions go that deep really not that often. there are other ways to deal with it.
    begin a new group of numbers once you see new repeats that you are not playing but keep two games separate . once the second game get hits use that money to help the first one.
     
  14. Rinad

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    I beleive in keeping things very simple to eliminate stress and enjoying the game. the only thing that matters is if you win more then you lose. and I can sit and win 20 sessions in a row without having a sweat. I have played much more risky methods , being down much more then 2000 units at times. 2000 units may well be a life time bankroll . 350 sessions is around 15000 spins, (average 50 spins per session ) , give and take.
     

  15. RickK

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    Been using RX for practice / testing...only had one really bad session, in the very beginning, but it was my mistake.... incorrect recording in that particular session only...Since then, very good results....no live sessions yet....but will be soon..
     
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  16. Smitridel

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    Now that post is outside of the box thinking.
    Fund yourself with a new parallel session BR even if that means adding more numbers (in comparison to raising the progression).
     
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  17. Rinad

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    here is another 35 sessions results.
    +33
    +21
    +32
    +19
    +32
    +30
    +29
    +34
    +03
    +32
    +10
    +03
    +23
    +27(186 spins)
    +04
    +03
    +15
    +15
    +02
    +22
    +20
    +11
    +19
    +35
    +13
    +31
    +17
    +14
    +05
    +16
    +20
    = +645 units. (playing very conservative). few times when I was at a 5 unit per bet and got a hit ,I went all the way to 2 units per bet only needing 50 units. .
     
  18. Gigi666

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    Thats 18u on avg per session, potentially risking 2000u. I think you should look back at your drawdowns and pick a smaller number of units for BR. Reward to Risk is quite high, you could easily make 20u playing streets method whether TG, Jekh or any other variation with a moderate BR of 300u.
     
  19. Rinad

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    I anderstand your point totally, I dont need 300 units that often. the 2000 unit bank is there to show a extreme . I know there are tons of methods that are out there where you win ,win,win....then give all of it back. I dont those anymore and I know it seems that i am contradictive in what i said but this one may be a once in a life time. I have other methods i have and still play . this one I decided to bring up because most players on the forum are attracted mostly by "mechanical systems" and so I just share the one I think has some merrit, that is all.
    the cut-off can be changed to one's preference. I will keep on pushing this one until I go over the top in testing, and who knows how far it can go ?
    is'nt what everyone dream of , system that maybe crashes one day per year ? one bad day out of 365 wont be too bad if it works that way. again I know about the risk/reward ratio and how important it is so i wont push this one method on anyone and just play it as "a tool in my boxe" that way I wont stir up the "nay sayers" that I am sure will show up soon. I will keep you all posted if anyone is interested. Cheers, God bless....
     
  20. Smitridel

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    If it loses once in a while, it all depends on how many have you managed to gather up until that point.
    This means that if lets say you managed to win 2001 units profit and you lose, you have actually spent all that session time (hours, days, months) for 1 unit profit (since you are back at your BR plus 1).
    On the other hand you may spend a lifetime without ever losing - thats the beauty/beast dual nature of random.

    And that sums up the whole problem with gambling. You never know if/when negative variance (the worst kind of it) is gonna hit you.
     
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