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Roulette Low down on airball wheels

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, May 11, 2017.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    I am trying to gather information on interblock "airball" machines

    On their website they use words like "automated" and "semi automated". Difference?

    Do the electronic airball wheels have a RNG device that pre determines where the ball lands?

    Anyone have real info on these things?

    as i typed this i ran across this:

    http://www.interblockgaming.com/interblock-product-portfolio-technology-at-a-glance/

    it gives me confidence that they only use RNG to describe the video terminals....they dont use rng to describe the machines that use real wheel and ball:

    "Our products fall under three generator types: Automated, Dealer Assist and Video. The Automated gaming devices are fully programmed, independently operating machines that use, for example, a real roulette wheel and ball, real dice and real cards. The Dealer Assist gaming devices are real tables with electronic betting, offering players the ability to place wagers through Play Stations while a dealer conducts the game on the table. The Video gaming devices are purely software-based. Their center units consist of a computer with the random number generator software and large LCD displays, where the computer-generated animation of the game progress is displayed."
     
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  2. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    i guess what i want to know is:

    the machines classified as AUTOMATED, with real wheel and ball...what computer systems drive this thing
     
  3. Madi

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    Rg i know its convenient for you. Without real wheel any other kind of device is fraud. The more you will play the more you will feel. Actually not feel u ll see how they avoid your placed bet. Once you move the bet from that number next spin it will show up.
     
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  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Not true.
    So test the machine - bet on every number.
    What would it do ? Keep spinning forever without the ball landing on anything ? lol, no.
    Sure - it SEEMS like when you stop betting your favorite number - sure enough that number appears
    and the player thinks "damn, I always stop too soon" but this isn't reality.

    All of those RG posted (the 3 variations) are going to produce "random" or else they wouldn't be
    allowed to use them (even though I was told that I don't know what I'm talking about lol).
    The payout, the math, the odds, the statistics, yadda yadda are all going to fall within the
    same range with the same house edge on every spin. They aren't allowed to "cheat" the player,
    and they aren't going to risk their business by doing it either. They have the built-in advantage
    already. I'm talking about legit casinos.
     
  5. Madi

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    If i play against you and make a cheating sequence to make your system fail it will still be considered as random to a third person who has no idea what happened.this word random does not clarify anything. Al in b&m casino. Definitely they are legit.
     
  6. Madi

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    Give us a statement that rng , airball and vedio roulette are not cheat in legit casino.
     
  7. Madi

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    I don't play airball machines - why wouldI?

    Whats wrong with airball? This can save ur time instead of playing 3 hr u can finish in 1hr with same profit
     

  8. Madi

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    If you think sitting behind a computer screen where the outcome can be planned out ahead of time then you aren't playing real roulette. You'replaying a video game and the casino can control how much and how often it pays out.

    Seems to me still legit casinos are cheating even they got built in advantage.
     
  9. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So you are the rng machine (let's say).
    How could you possible put together a sequence of spins that would make my system lose ?
    That would suggest that the computer somehow "knew" ahead of time - what my system was that I was playing - that it knew where I was going to bet. And the same for every player who walked up to the machine.
    If it could make numbers appear that I wasn't betting on then it couldn't produce random.
    I could bet all but 2 numbers - so in that line of thought the result would be those 2 numbers showing over and over again so that I would lose - and that doesn't happen. It has to be random, it produces random.
    If something doesn't appear random because the player is losing - perhaps they are losing for another reason.
     
  10. RouletteGhost

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    There are patents out there that allow machines to choose a number after the wheel has spun

    My fear is that these automated terminals and video RNG machines can alter bets

    Why?

    In New York State roulette with dealer is illegal

    The airball machines were introduced and allowed because they classified them as slots

    The definition that the airball machines fall under is one where the results are pre determined and not random

    THAT is how they are legal here

    Were they paid off to allow it for the revenue? Or are the results pre determined

    I'm not making it up. They consider airball wheels slots here. Which is what made it legal

    Why?
     
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  11. RouletteGhost

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  12. RouletteGhost

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    I've emailed interlock gaming

    As consumers we have a right to know

    I simply asked if the automated roulettes produced true random results
     
  13. Madi

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    It doesnt behave that way. U leave 2 number. First u lose 1 time then u win 15 times then lose 1 time win 13 time and if you continue betting same way ur bankroll will be down over time.if i play after you finished i will see omg there is repeater in 15 spin and it is random for me.
     
  14. Madi

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    I dont need to know what system you are playing. I will only look at what number u placed bet. Say you left only two number on table. I will get one number from that left two 6 times in a row. Can you say that was not random? It might be rare but still random. While other player beside you playing repeat is killing.you cant just complain because u losing. Using the random they kill you can kill everyone.
     

  15. Jefra

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    Casinos cheating with airballs and even more with roulette game on slot machines. You said very well that on these devices a machine will hit neighbor number when you play numbers more stronger. And YES, this is exactly what is happening. OK not always, but more times that not. Machines, then they not act as RNG, but play against player, they push you that you need start to play neighbours and then neigbours of those neighbours,....so machines push you to play wider and wider and avoid your the strongest betting number.

    BUT question is what would happen with big bankroll playing your system +100 spins. Maybe you still would win on end.
     
  16. IDPA

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    I see lots of "statements" about how the Air Ball machines are putting the ball where the wagers are not.

    I don't see a lot of recorded results to back this up, especially on an airball machine with a live dealer.

    Full RNG machines where the entire game is one big video game may be different but with a physical wheel and/or dealer in place, let's see those records from your play to "prove" the Air Ball cheating schemes.

    I
     
  17. Madi

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    We r talking about the machine without any human dealer.
     
  18. mr j

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    Correct, it is a SLOT GAME. They have a damn "Survivor" slot game, its no different.

    Ken
     
  19. IDPA

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    Hmm, it would appear that the thread title is a bit misleading if we're discussing full video RNG machines (slots) and not Live Air Ball type machines.

    I
     
  20. RolleteRoy

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    Please think like Roulette from Interblock act an a businessman, that doing business for profit.
    the basic theory is: The ball can be program to landed pre-target number when needed.

    The 2nd part, you say bet all number never land, since 5% edge, machine still win some cut by taking your 37$ and return you 36$ , in such case it land any number and you lost 1$/37$

    I believe Interblock have ability to choose the less most bet area and come out that number, not decide by yourself bet, it is lowest bet among all player at same spin.
     

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